The Official NBA Thread 2011-12

Ristol

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And another thing: Michael Jordan never shit the bed like LBJ did tonight. NEVER. Especially not in the Finals. Jordan was always Jordan. LeBron doesn't always play like LeBron.
 

S O F I

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Let's put things into perspective.

1. Bron Bron is letting Wade be the man for Miami. Bron Bron is playing Pippen, not Jordan, and most likely, due to Wade's clear and direct request. All we know, that request probably came before The Decision.
2. That game 2 meltdown was the result of Hero-Ball. Wade and LeBron deciding that they will win the game by themselves. Out of 14 shot attempts in the 4th by Miami, 11 were three point attempts and majority I believe by Wade and Bron Bron. Bron Bron was heavily criticized (by those who are in the know, aka, me).
3. Bron Bron didn't want to play Hero Ball tonight. He's still criticized, per Ristol's comment.
 

Ristol

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Bron Bron didn't want to play Hero Ball tonight. He's still criticized, per Ristol's comment.
Excuses, excuses.

He didn't want to play hero ball? I don't get it. Why not? His team was flagging, the Mavs were playing immaculate defense; why didn't he want to be a hero? Are you saying he didn't take over the game because he didn't feel like it?

The argument that LeBron is playing the Pippen is all wrong. He's been the Jordan in many of these playoff games. What the Heat need to do is get their shit straight. There's no excuse for LeBron having a game like that.
 

Ristol

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By the way, a list of Jordan's points totals in Finals games:

36,33,29,28,30,39,39,26,32,46,33,31,42,44,55,41,33,28,29,36,23,26,22,31,38,26,22,38,38,33,37,24,34,28,45.

Yeah. There's no comparison.
 

ArtsyGirl

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Don't give the excuse that he was putting the end of the game in Wade's hands, he had what 4 points at the half? That's just whats called a bad game, and he has them in Playoffs and this time Finals. Like I said before, I don't think LeBron knows how to play when he's not the absolute go to guy, this series he's #2 and he isn't used to it. Wade is playing a hell of a series and LeBron is stuggling (for him anyway).

Good to see Mav's bench come out and play. I was a bit worried when I saw that Dirk was sick.

LOL at the press conference with Rick Carlisle and the reporter who wanted him to say Yes or No that it was one hell of a coaching performance. Dude, he did his job - shut up.

How come Chandler fucks up so many lay ups / Dunks? It was unbelievable how many he messed up.

Hopefully Dallas take Game 5 and close it out in Miami.
 

S O F I

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Don't give the excuse that he was putting the end of the game in Wade's hands, he had what 4 points at the half? That's just whats called a bad game, and he has them in Playoffs and this time Finals. Like I said before, I don't think LeBron knows how to play when he's not the absolute go to guy, this series he's #2 and he isn't used to it. Wade is playing a hell of a series and LeBron is stuggling (for him anyway).
I've said that already too. If not, I agreed with you.

There are three stars on the team, if you want to be an asshole, you can say two (poor Bosh). It was clear in this game they were focusing more on getting the ball to Bosh. LeBron played 46 minutes and had 11 shot attempts. That is not because of Mavs' immaculate defense. This is a guy who's taken on different roles on the team on a PER-GAME basis. All we know, next game, Bron Bron could go for 25 shot attempts and have 50 points. He could if he wanted to. But it wouldn't guarantee a win. And hence the problem.

A bad game is when you have 8 points and 20 shot attempts. For a scorer. He didn't need more shot attempts in this game, really, if you look at it from a certain point. It's not a bad game if you have one shot attempt in the 4th. It's when you miss 10.

I just can't wait for the Heat to win this championship so all this petty criticism can be laid to rest.
 

Kobe

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I expected the Heat to take this series in 5. Right now, I don't know how many it will take but the Heat will win this series.

Lots of smack talk in here :) I thought we'd be talking about how Wade messed up a chance to possibly tie the game. He won't ever watch game 2 and 4 again.

I agree with ArtysGirl, Lebron is struggling. To me, after watching games 2, 3, & 4, its for reasons unknown. He has flashes of brilliance then all of a sudden, he's a non factor. The worst part is his 'indecision' (no pun intended) to shoot the ball. How many times has he rose up to shoot only to pass the ball at the last second? Its even resulting in turnovers now. He'll have to become a huge offensive factor if the Heat are to win the next game.

Ristol, I believe you don't want the Heat to win coz you hate Lebron. *runs for the hills*
 

ArtsyGirl

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I've said that already too. If not, I agreed with you.

There are three stars on the team, if you want to be an asshole, you can say two (poor Bosh). It was clear in this game they were focusing more on getting the ball to Bosh. LeBron played 46 minutes and had 11 shot attempts. That is not because of Mavs' immaculate defense. This is a guy who's taken on different roles on the team on a PER-GAME basis. All we know, next game, Bron Bron could go for 25 shot attempts and have 50 points. He could if he wanted to. But it wouldn't guarantee a win. And hence the problem.

A bad game is when you have 8 points and 20 shot attempts. For a scorer. He didn't need more shot attempts in this game, really, if you look at it from a certain point. It's not a bad game if you have one shot attempt in the 4th. It's when you miss 10.

I just can't wait for the Heat to win this championship so all this petty criticism can be laid to rest.
Yeah what you call that though is a bad percentage game. LeBron is a huge offensive weapon, Heat were struggling offensively in the 4th, why wasn't he used? From what I saw he had a few opportunities that ended up in a pass that was turned over, and a travel. He's there to do certain things and he's not doing them.

Any team in the Finals is criticised. I'm not so much of a hater to think they won't ever win a Championship (if only) but I REALLY don't want them to win right away. Plus I think it'd be cool for some Veterans to get a ring before those guys.
 

Ristol

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That was the quietest, bitchiest triple double I have EVER seen. What a tin man! No heart.

In the last two games, LeBron the superstar is averaging 1 point per 4th quarter. Dude is becoming the A-Rod of the NBA.

When the Mavs win this thing, LeBron has to bolt for some other city, right?
 

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