So, who wanna hear another Benzino song dissing Eminem?
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I keep seeing you say shit like this...
"My Band isn't hip hop". "lmao @ you saying Nelly is hip hop".
However, you have failed to answer a question I've asked you twice. If My Band isn't hip hop and Nelly doesn't make hip hop music, then what the fuck are they? What genre of music do you classify them?
If you're going to respond with some 15 year old bullshit retort like "they're bullshit, lol", don't even bother.
"My Band isn't hip hop". "lmao @ you saying Nelly is hip hop".
However, you have failed to answer a question I've asked you twice. If My Band isn't hip hop and Nelly doesn't make hip hop music, then what the fuck are they? What genre of music do you classify them?
If you're going to respond with some 15 year old bullshit retort like "they're bullshit, lol", don't even bother.
First of all, I completely agree with you about whether or not it was "ok" for Benzino to rip Ronnie in this diss. Eminem, when answering a question about the Ja Rule beef in an interview he did in Detroit like three weeks ago, expanded on a line he spit in LTS...
"When it comes to the rap game and battling, the content of who or what you can talk about in a battle really only has one guideline to follow, at least here where we're from. That one rule is that you do not say anything about your opponents children in a battle. You can rip them up, say something about their girl, their boys, even say something about their mother. But you never bring their kids into it. That's when Ja crossed the line, when he said Hailie's name."
So, anyway, I don't think Benzino was "wrong" for using the line. However, Benzino has to be prepared for the fact that when Em hears it, chances are he is going to release an extremely lethal diss. This statement may sound a little over the top, but if you really examine it, Benzino needs to realize Em COULD very well destroy Zino's respectability and career. Didn't Zino say in a recent interview that Russell Simmons pulled ads from The Source because "he decided to side with Dre and Jimmy and Em, so I have lost revenue from this"?
As for Em's line about The Source, I HIGHLY DOUBT that the beef was lit over that. If that line was what made Benzino really pissed, enough to do what he's done since then, then not is that only really sad but that shows Benzino himself doesn't know the business. I mean, Jesus Christ...Em has spit lines about XXL on songs before, including "Marshall Mathers":
"And then to top it off, I walked to the newsstand
to buy this cheap-ass little magazine with a food stamp
Skipped to the last page, flipped right fast
and what do I see? A picture of my big white ass
Okay, let me give you motherfuckers some help:
uhh, here - DOUBLE XL, DOUBLE XL
Now your magazine shouldn't have so much trouble to sell"
"When it comes to the rap game and battling, the content of who or what you can talk about in a battle really only has one guideline to follow, at least here where we're from. That one rule is that you do not say anything about your opponents children in a battle. You can rip them up, say something about their girl, their boys, even say something about their mother. But you never bring their kids into it. That's when Ja crossed the line, when he said Hailie's name."
So, anyway, I don't think Benzino was "wrong" for using the line. However, Benzino has to be prepared for the fact that when Em hears it, chances are he is going to release an extremely lethal diss. This statement may sound a little over the top, but if you really examine it, Benzino needs to realize Em COULD very well destroy Zino's respectability and career. Didn't Zino say in a recent interview that Russell Simmons pulled ads from The Source because "he decided to side with Dre and Jimmy and Em, so I have lost revenue from this"?
As for Em's line about The Source, I HIGHLY DOUBT that the beef was lit over that. If that line was what made Benzino really pissed, enough to do what he's done since then, then not is that only really sad but that shows Benzino himself doesn't know the business. I mean, Jesus Christ...Em has spit lines about XXL on songs before, including "Marshall Mathers":
"And then to top it off, I walked to the newsstand
to buy this cheap-ass little magazine with a food stamp
Skipped to the last page, flipped right fast
and what do I see? A picture of my big white ass
Okay, let me give you motherfuckers some help:
uhh, here - DOUBLE XL, DOUBLE XL
Now your magazine shouldn't have so much trouble to sell"
Wow...can't believe I'm doing this but, Hurts is actually completely right here.
It doesn't take a genius though to figure out what the purpose of songs such as these are for. It's really actually ridiculous though to use that format when you're Eminem and you know you don't "need" to do that anymore. He hasn't needed that strategy since the MMLP dropped.
And yes, Hurts, he has admitted that in several interviews actually, as you mentioned. As a matter of fact, I've also seen him in interviews on TV and read statements from him where he says he completely fucking hates performing those songs as well.
It doesn't take a genius though to figure out what the purpose of songs such as these are for. It's really actually ridiculous though to use that format when you're Eminem and you know you don't "need" to do that anymore. He hasn't needed that strategy since the MMLP dropped.
And yes, Hurts, he has admitted that in several interviews actually, as you mentioned. As a matter of fact, I've also seen him in interviews on TV and read statements from him where he says he completely fucking hates performing those songs as well.
sniper said:
didnt eminem make fun of everlasts heart attack ? or am i thinkin of someone else 
"Oh yah Mobb Deep (uhh)
You wanna fuck with us
You Little young ass mutha-f**kas
Don't one of you niggas got sickle-cell or something
You fucking with me, nigga ?
You fuck around and catch a seizure or a heart-attack
You better back the fuck up
Before you get smacked the fuck up"
That ring a bell?
That's the cool thing about the 8 Mile DVD. If you go to the extras they have a 10 minute thing where they had a contest during lunch breaks during the shooting. They had 140 people sign up to battle. Narrowed it down to the top 5 and those top 5 got to get on stage and LITERALLY battle Eminem.
It was real interesting to see him on the stage actually battling people, like REAL true battling. It was pretty cool to watch. Funny thing is, the stuff he spit on the extras against the 5 participants were better than his scripted battles for the movie.
It was real interesting to see him on the stage actually battling people, like REAL true battling. It was pretty cool to watch. Funny thing is, the stuff he spit on the extras against the 5 participants were better than his scripted battles for the movie.
Jason, I wasn't saying that the 5 mics line was the one that started it or nothing but you've got to admit it was the most blatant line from Eminem that dissed the Source. I mean, Benzino could've been dissing Eminem for months & nobody would've really cared until Eminem spoke on it, that's all I'm saying.
I mean, what numbers did The Eminem Show do, cuz I know it was crazy just think how many people heard that line.... & after that the actual diss records started coming
I mean, what numbers did The Eminem Show do, cuz I know it was crazy just think how many people heard that line.... & after that the actual diss records started coming
As a stan, I mean fan, though you should know that some of the lines Eminem used he'd used before n battles so it wasn't completely freestyling, but then who does?
And I think he particularly ripped the female rapper although the fat fuck, fast ass rapper, was pretty good.
Also, there was that one who Eminem mimed with, dude must've been pissed when he found the crowd got him to actually battle the rest of them.
And I think he particularly ripped the female rapper although the fat fuck, fast ass rapper, was pretty good.
Also, there was that one who Eminem mimed with, dude must've been pissed when he found the crowd got him to actually battle the rest of them.
I know what you're saying. I just don't think that Zino decided that that line was the "final straw" or whatever. Eminem rips everyone and anyone. He's even said before that the ONLY people he'll never mention in a rap is the Beastie Boys because "I have such an intense amount of respect and admiration for what they've done for hip hop and I wouldn't ever want them to even think, even have to wonder if I'm dissing them if I put them in a song". I don't think Em did it to be vicious or start shit or anything, I think he was just being Eminem.
I also don't think he was trying to be blatant either. Again, I think he was just being Eminem and fucking with people
I also don't think he was trying to be blatant either. Again, I think he was just being Eminem and fucking with people
First of all...*eye roll* @ "as a stan".
Yeah, he ripped the female, but she fucked up twice. She choked. She started out good, spit out about probly 6 or 7 bars and then when into laughter because obviously her mind went blank. Then, didn't she start up again and spit out like 4 or 5 more bars and then choked a second time? I don't know, it's been like 6 months since I watched the DVD.
I didn't like the fat dude. I thought he was fucking horrible. Now, the first guy, his name was Marvin, don't remember his last name. He was the best one of them all I thought.
Yeah, he ripped the female, but she fucked up twice. She choked. She started out good, spit out about probly 6 or 7 bars and then when into laughter because obviously her mind went blank. Then, didn't she start up again and spit out like 4 or 5 more bars and then choked a second time? I don't know, it's been like 6 months since I watched the DVD.
I didn't like the fat dude. I thought he was fucking horrible. Now, the first guy, his name was Marvin, don't remember his last name. He was the best one of them all I thought.
So you try to discredit Em as "true hip hop" because Encore wasn't a classic?
Yeah, that makes sense. *eye roll*
NOTE: Anyone know what the fuck is up with the smiley faces and the quote and bold options and all that? Everytime I click on any of that all it does is scrolls the screen to the top of the page.
Yeah, that makes sense. *eye roll*
NOTE: Anyone know what the fuck is up with the smiley faces and the quote and bold options and all that? Everytime I click on any of that all it does is scrolls the screen to the top of the page.
Yeah but the line went somethign like, '5 mics in the Source, I ain't holding my fucking breath'
That's pretty straightforward/blatant. And I think Eminem was being vicious, which I also believe he was justified to be, particularly as he thought his mentor, Dre, had got fucked over.
Again, it was Benzino's decision to make as to whether it was the 'final straw', think of the number of people who will have been talking to him about that shit. He had to do something, it forced his hand, regardless of whether Eminem had meant to.
That's pretty straightforward/blatant. And I think Eminem was being vicious, which I also believe he was justified to be, particularly as he thought his mentor, Dre, had got fucked over.
Again, it was Benzino's decision to make as to whether it was the 'final straw', think of the number of people who will have been talking to him about that shit. He had to do something, it forced his hand, regardless of whether Eminem had meant to.
OK, let me explain myself better. When I said I don't think Em was being blatant, I didn't mean in terms of how straight forward or subliminal the diss was. I meant I didn't think he was being blatant from the aspect of him spitting that line with the intention of being like "fuck you benzino, fuck you and your whole fucking magazine". I just think he was basically saying "just because Benzino doesn't give a rapper 5 mics doesn't mean anything other than that's his opinion".
I just...I personally think Benzino has started this whole fucking thing. He's desperate to discredit Em and or rid him of his status as much if not moreso than Suge wants Dre humiliated.
I just...I personally think Benzino has started this whole fucking thing. He's desperate to discredit Em and or rid him of his status as much if not moreso than Suge wants Dre humiliated.
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