Film & TV Kramer's racist Tirade caught on tape

hizzle?

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#61
excalibur22 said:
Are you fucking kidding me.... This man was talking about hanging black people from tree's... and your justifying this shit with something Pac said, a man whom by the way you allready know was not racist. Thats pretty fucking pathetic bank robber.
Well do you have any evidence that Richards "really" is racist???

I mean... he said the same thing Pac said that night (for which pac probably got applauded.)

I'm not justifying what Richards did, its just im tired of double standards!!!


And after watching that interview, i think that he was not lying when he said that he tryed to answer the hacker, but he went too far (like i said, it was funny when he started answering the hacker, but he went too far at one point)

I think that the man is really sorry. It's just that this is America and ppl are going to make a big mess about it while if it was a black man who said this, it wouldn't have been as bad.

As a matter of fact, yesterday on RAW...those two Cryme Tyme members (their characters are black Brooklyn rappers) called two white wrestlers "Cracking ass crackers"... it was scripted, they did it with the knowledge of what they were doing, had no rush of emotions, they accepted to say it... no fuss.


AGAIN I THINK RICHARDS WENT TOO FAR SO DONT CALL ME THE GRAND DRAGON OR SOMETHING!
 

hizzle?

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#62
excalibur22 said:
Flip i respect you and all, but your wrong on this one. One person is a celebrity, the other is not. You cant make this comparison.

And to all of you who believe this apology was "real, and from the heart"... PLEASE. This only went down because seinfeld season 7 ships out tommorow, and they didnt want to hurt the sales. But newsflash; your a little late on that one.
Also he's tring to deflect the attention by talking about New Orleans, and hurrican Katrina. Get the fuck outta here, all you falling for this shit are straight up suckas.

what the fuck?????

Thats the dumbest excuse i ever heard!!! They dont wanna hurt the sales???? If America is so stupid not to make the difference between a character (Kramer) and the actor (Richards), then you ppl really live up to your stereotypes.
 

hizzle?

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RFTP said:
I don't understand some people here. WHY must you compare Michael Richards outbursts to 2pacs or that crazy proffesor? Does it make it more right then?
They compare it to expose double standards.

it doesnt make it right. I would apologize to 2pac and Richards, but I would serve a major beatdown to the professor (which i'm happy to learn got shot in his fucking racist head).

He teaches young (probably black) kids. They learn of his "knowledge". He practically brainwashes them.

That man did researches and probably wrote papers and essays about his statements. He did in knowing what he was doing. He was able to sleep every night calmly and proudly of what he just achieved in his life (that being "lets exterminate white people).

While Pac and Richards did it in the heat of the moment. It doesnt justify their actions, but it makes it less important, because they probably didnt think about it before saying it.
 
#64
hizzle? said:
They compare it to expose double standards.
Nobody is denying the double standards. And they exist as a result from the majority, what they've done before. For 50 years ago the situation in America was different. While most of the people are screaming "get over it" it just doesn't work like that. And you know it too, as I assume you yet haven't gotten over the war on Bosnia.

it doesnt make it right. I would apologize to 2pac and Richards, but I would serve a major beatdown to the professor (which i'm happy to learn got shot in his fucking racist head).
I agree, except for Richards.
He teaches young (probably black) kids. They learn of his "knowledge". He practically brainwashes them.
He is a MINORITY and it's not like he would've been heard. Plus a person who would want to live by his word(teachings) would cut himself from the society as he wouldn't want to live/work with white person. That pretty much cuts him from more then 80% in a society dominated by white.

Compare that, to the majority for about 50 years ago or so preaching almost what this guy preached. You're happy that he is dead, but I don't see you be wishing death to, ALOT of people from 50 years ago, that probably were as racist as this black professor, that are still alive. So yes, even you can show a glance of double standard. I'm not saying you should wish them death or anything. Just that it bears NO MEANING to expose the countrys double standard. It doesn't get to the point, it doesn't make racism go away. So that is why I don't see a POINT in making other racist reference by the counter-parts.
 

hizzle?

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He is a MINORITY and it's not like he would've been heard. Plus a person who would want to live by his word(teachings) would cut himself from the society as he wouldn't want to live/work with white person. That pretty much cuts him from more then 80% in a society dominated by white.
some ppl did applaud him...

And its not because he is the minority that he can have more rights
 

S O F I

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#66
cannibalox said:
I base it on reality? And not some superficial one where we care about a word due to the skin and the past history. It's okay for Dave Chapelle to say it, black people laugh at it all the time, BUY dvds. Once a white guy uses it, it's like OH HES THE DEVIL. But he got what he wanted, publicity, since he was on to zero and now he has people among you guys using his name to insult/trash at, and people usually don't yell at Kramer(sp?). Lol @ favour ahaha, your ego dosen't bother me. I'm assuming you're a woman and you think you're smart and all witty, it's all lemmings to me.
I thought you had something intelligent to say. You're just another guy using the "double standard" as the argument. Your assumption is wrong, by the way. On top of that, you made yourself look sexist. Good job.

On a sidenote, reality is socially-constructed.
 
#67
hizzle? said:
some ppl did applaud him...

And its not because he is the minority that he can have more rights
I didn't say minorities should have more rights. I just find it perfectlly NORMAL if the oppressed finds hate against the oppresors. That black professor probably, most probably had alot more valid reason, in a lack of better words, to say whatever he did then Michael. That is the difference between that professor and Michael. The only time Michael was oppressed was probably in the bed by his lady.

Now, don't misunderstand that everyone should do that, just that in one case it at least makes abit MORE sense(though still wrong).

But in the end comparing these two isn't going to help the cause either to expose whatever might be behind it.
 

hizzle?

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S O F I said:
I thought you had something intelligent to say. You're just another guy using the "double standard" as the argument. Your assumption is wrong, by the way. On top of that, you made yourself look sexist. Good job.

On a sidenote, reality is socially-constructed.
yeah its just that double standards are getting annoying, something like affirmative action...

but i agree with you that using DS as an argumet is stupid tho. (i didnt only use that by the way, it was part of my arguments)
 
#70
SiGh said:
Do your reseach on that guy. He was shot in the head during a book signing in Montana last year.

And the title of that clip says it all, along with all the commenters on that page. ;)

Are you ignorant? What gives him the right to say that all white people should be exterminated?

He got shot in the head. I feel bad for him. But should he use that and say that all white people should be exterminated? Did I shoot him in the head? Why should I be exterminated?

The title and the commenters do say it all, you're right. This guy is a nutcase, along with being a piece of shit. If you agree with him, then you are also a nutcase and piece of shit. How are you even going to try to defend him?
 
#72
drake_411 said:
I honestly just reailzed something,I watched that whole apology and personally felt bad for him(cause he looked like a twelve year old being caught stealing) but thats beside the point.In that apology he said that he didn't want his comments cause any more tension between whites and blacks.Now I don't know the race of any of you guys(nor do I really care) but if some of who are argueing are white and black thats exactly what happened,then it's caused more racial tension in a world where that garbage is destroying man kind(especially in the states).

One of you stated that we've all said things we regret and that was not the whole point so I apoligize,but this is where im going,I have NEVER called a black man that word.I would never call anybody of another race something like that,it's fucking flat out ridiculous.The guy apologized,well what the fuck would you expect.If i called someone that I would expect to get my ass jumped and beat down. Of course I would apologize too if I said some stupid shit like that,but the point is I wouldn't no matter what he said to me.I can honestly say that.
lmao..yeah he did look pretty pathetic like that... All old, broken down man apolgizing for slippin...the audience was all laughin too...what do u expect though, letterman is supposed to be funny... He should go on 106 and park or Oprah to apologize....

4 me, I'm filipino... when i'm around my black friends, the ones im close too... we bag and clown on each other...playin the dozens and what not... They clown and tell me to cook up some fried rice...i clown back sayin to hook it up with the fried chicken and bean pies.... we're just clownin and baggin on each other...and yes we throw racial slurs at each other... but the difference is we know each other, we're close and we know where to draw the line at...

But you just dont yell out racial slurs to people that you dont know and might take offense, no matter how much you're just joking. Thats common sense. You have to assume that EVERYONE may be offended and then not say anything offensive. Michael Richards may not be racist, but he got caught slippin.... hand in the cookie jar and everything...
 

Snowman

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#74
excalibur22 said:
Check out Sinbad's intrerview who was there at the club, and his reaction. The truth has been told

http://www.emailthis.clickability.c...ToID=1889245553
Yeah i seen this on the news. Sinbad even said Richards should go back when its Chocolate City night.(saturday). an apologize

they talked to Paul Mooney an he said Richards performance at the Laugh in was a 10. His apology on Letterman was a 2. he didnt believe it was sincere
 
#75
Little Skittle said:
Are you ignorant? What gives him the right to say that all white people should be exterminated?

He got shot in the head. I feel bad for him. But should he use that and say that all white people should be exterminated? Did I shoot him in the head? Why should I be exterminated?

The title and the commenters do say it all, you're right. This guy is a nutcase, along with being a piece of shit. If you agree with him, then you are also a nutcase and piece of shit. How are you even going to try to defend him?
You really lack comprehensive skills dont you?
 

ARon

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#77
Everyone bringing up the double standard arguement needs to be quiet. When a black man calls another black man a nigger, most of the time, he isnt being racist, when Richards called this black man nigger he was being racist. Stop defending racism. It also was obviously not part of his act, so this whole he was tryin to be funny thing is just as pathetic.
 

hizzle?

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#78
I call my best friend a ni**er, he's black and i aint racist....

then again this thread is about Richards... he didnt really know the man... but i think that he was trying to do a joke...

we are seriously going around here...
 
#79
Exactly LuvinAlize, I have white freinds who've bugged other white freinds about their relegion.The difference is dude didn't know that guy and he was doing it in a threating manner.It was sweet though how Seinfeld told the crowd not to laugh,he's got his back.
 

hizzle?

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Snowman said:
Yeah i seen this on the news. Sinbad even said Richards should go back when its Chocolate City night.(saturday). an apologize

they talked to Paul Mooney an he said Richards performance at the Laugh in was a 10. His apology on Letterman was a 2. he didnt believe it was sincere
i believed him... he was defintly sincere...

who the fuck is paul mooney anyways
 

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