Ay Hurts...Illmatic
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I bought Illmatic in 1998 and it didn't sound dated at all to me.
How can someone name the excellent production by heavy weights like Primo and Pete Rock BORING? That's beyond my understanding. Illmatic has dope ass muthafuckin production.
And Nas doesn't put me to sleep, he paints a story right in front of my eyes with his voice and words.
Illmatic shits over every Tupac album.
Why? Because Pac never had a flawless album, except for Me Against The World, which is almost as good as Illmatic.
How can someone name the excellent production by heavy weights like Primo and Pete Rock BORING? That's beyond my understanding. Illmatic has dope ass muthafuckin production.
And Nas doesn't put me to sleep, he paints a story right in front of my eyes with his voice and words.
Illmatic shits over every Tupac album.
Why? Because Pac never had a flawless album, except for Me Against The World, which is almost as good as Illmatic.
By the way jason, when a hundred of people tell you you don't know shit about hiphop, you should either 1) believe them or 2) admit you just don't have no taste
Nah, sorry, everybody is entitled to their own opinion, and you should listen to what you like, but you just ain't no hiphop fan. Because I don't know a hiphop fan who doesn't like Illmatic, or all the other artists you named. You're just more like a pop fan than a hiphop fan, and there ain't no problem with that.
Nah, sorry, everybody is entitled to their own opinion, and you should listen to what you like, but you just ain't no hiphop fan. Because I don't know a hiphop fan who doesn't like Illmatic, or all the other artists you named. You're just more like a pop fan than a hiphop fan, and there ain't no problem with that.
jason_g_718 said:
There is nothing wrong with "commercial" rap. The man we are all here to honor, Mr. Tupac Shakur, was and is commercial rap. All "commercial rap" means is that you've made it and are not underground anymore. Also, what i like has nothing to do with what form of music it is, or what style. I like whatever sounds good to me. I also said in my post that Illmatic grew on me and I now like the album very much. I'm not so sure that I personally consider it a classic yet, but we'll see. However, provide what I asked for at the start of this post and I will acknowledge Illmatic as a "factual" classic.
I like you usually, man and respect you a lot. But this comment is pure bullshit. "Ohhh...just listen till you like it".
Either way, the album to me is pretty good now, I just had to get used to the EC sound, as I prefer WC.
I like you usually, man and respect you a lot. But this comment is pure bullshit. "Ohhh...just listen till you like it". Either way, the album to me is pretty good now, I just had to get used to the EC sound, as I prefer WC.
I never said there was anything wrong with commercial rap.
You listed the artists you listen to now, which shows you're more leniant to commercial rap artists than underground acts. Nothing wrong with that, I'm just saying that most people that share your music taste, won't appreciate Illmatic.
"Tell me where it states in what documents that Illmatic is a certified classic."
When did I say it was a certified classic? I said it's one of the best albums in rap.
Illmatic is a little overrated to me, but that shit is brilliant. i listen to it all the time. i dont understand how anyone cannot like that album. every song is a banger. it shits on eminem and every aftermath record. it pretty much shits on every album except for MATW. You should take a long hard stare in the mirror and proceed to ask yourself if you deserve to own any rap cd period. while youre at it,ask yourself if you even deserve to live. haha
/\lmao.
so true. Illmatic - easily one of the best albums ever, of any genre. completely flawless and never gets old.
jason rly needs to start listenin to some legendary hiphop albums.
oh, and
the marshall mathers LP and the eminem show are the 2 albums you mentioned. yet none of the songs you mentioned are on either of those albums.
are you just makin random stuff up? lol. and if you wanna hear em at his best, go listen to "infinite"
so true. Illmatic - easily one of the best albums ever, of any genre. completely flawless and never gets old.
jason rly needs to start listenin to some legendary hiphop albums.
oh, and
the marshall mathers LP and the eminem show are the 2 albums you mentioned. yet none of the songs you mentioned are on either of those albums.
are you just makin random stuff up? lol. and if you wanna hear em at his best, go listen to "infinite"
Well, again, whether an artist is underground or mainstream doesn't matter to me. It's all in how the music sounds. I listen to a lot of underground artists from Detroit that I never mention because they don't have an regognition outside of Detroit.
Shit, I went to the battle that Proof and Bizarre of D12 hosted last Thursday night at The Shelter in Detroit and bought an underground CD of a guy that was in the battle that night (he took 4th place).
As for Illmatic, didn't you say something to the affect of "that album is a classic and that's a fact"?
Shit, I went to the battle that Proof and Bizarre of D12 hosted last Thursday night at The Shelter in Detroit and bought an underground CD of a guy that was in the battle that night (he took 4th place).
As for Illmatic, didn't you say something to the affect of "that album is a classic and that's a fact"?
I keep going back to something Bank Robber said a while ago. I saw a post by him telling Pittsey I think it was that "more than half of this board is filled with idiots".
So when I see one of the respected members of this board saying that, no, I don't take too much of what any of you say seriously.
I have a few members on this board I respect highly (Pittsey, Robber, Chronic, Hostile Apostle), if any of them suggest something to me, I take their word. I may disagree with them, but I put actual weight into the things they say.
So when I see one of the respected members of this board saying that, no, I don't take too much of what any of you say seriously.
I have a few members on this board I respect highly (Pittsey, Robber, Chronic, Hostile Apostle), if any of them suggest something to me, I take their word. I may disagree with them, but I put actual weight into the things they say.
You people can't even make up your own fucking minds.
The same people (you) telling me how "illmatic is the best album ever" come back 2 days later and suddenly "big l's album is the best ever."
I just laugh at you 15 and 16 year olds comin' on here thinking "you ain't heard this? You don't know shit".
Get off your own cocks already. Many of you have turned sucking your own dick into an artform.
The same people (you) telling me how "illmatic is the best album ever" come back 2 days later and suddenly "big l's album is the best ever."
I just laugh at you 15 and 16 year olds comin' on here thinking "you ain't heard this? You don't know shit".
Get off your own cocks already. Many of you have turned sucking your own dick into an artform.
Because not everyone has methods to post up links, man.
I couldn't even fuckin post my own MP3 in here of MY OWN FUCKING MUSIC....Dave D had to do it.
BTW...all of you people who act like "undergrouns is better" are hilarious.
NO...seriously...you make me laugh. "oohhhhh, it's underground so you know it's good".
The music and artist makes the song good, not being "mainstream" or "underground".
I couldn't even fuckin post my own MP3 in here of MY OWN FUCKING MUSIC....Dave D had to do it.
BTW...all of you people who act like "undergrouns is better" are hilarious.
NO...seriously...you make me laugh. "oohhhhh, it's underground so you know it's good".
The music and artist makes the song good, not being "mainstream" or "underground".
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