This is my thread

[S O F I]

according to reviews, yeah:

it uses some technology + algorythms to determine ideal times for you to wake up.

http://www.androidpolice.com/2013/0...aby-step-toward-truly-powerful-wearable-tech/
http://www.independent.co.uk/life-s...-up-fitness-wristband-by-jawbone-8559671.html

 

[Pittsey]

The Tyler the Creator Mountain Dew advert is awful. It's been banned because of "racism". Which is bullshit. But the advert is so poor. Who at Mountain Dew thought it was a good idea.

 

[dilla]

All I got was just random movement.

Is that what they call "masturbation" in Poland?

 

[dilla]

according to reviews, yeah:

it uses some technology + algorythms to determine ideal times for you to wake up.

http://www.androidpolice.com/2013/0...aby-step-toward-truly-powerful-wearable-tech/
http://www.independent.co.uk/life-s...-up-fitness-wristband-by-jawbone-8559671.html

For thousands of years, humanity has survived pretty well by using the sun, a rooster, an alarm, or some combination of that.

It's a $100 gimmick. If it was $30, I would get it to try it out. At $100, it's like those life bracelet things people wore thinking it gave them energy or some shit.

 

[S O F I]

For thousands of years, humanity has survived pretty well by using the sun, a rooster, an alarm, or some combination of that.

It's a $100 gimmick. If it was $30, I would get it to try it out. At $100, it's like those life bracelet things people wore thinking it gave them energy or some shit.

Did you even read about all the functions? I doubt it.

 

[Pittsey]

For thousands of years, humanity has survived pretty well by using the sun, a rooster, an alarm, or some combination of that.

It's a $100 gimmick. If it was $30, I would get it to try it out. At $100, it's like those life bracelet things people wore thinking it gave them energy or some shit.

It tracks all your activity. If you run / ride / swim and want to track your progress, it's brilliant. It's nothing like those plastic bracelets.

I am not in, yet, because I want something that is automated. I don't want to have to plugin and download the data. If it doesn't have BT, I am not going to spend any money on it. I had the fitbit that was the same. I'd prefer a band, but with BT.

 

[dilla]

Did you even read about all the functions? I doubt it.

No, I know the functions, but I still feel these things are gimmicks. You asked about this a few months back as well, and while it seems cool, I don't see how it's worth $100. I'll look into it more, but is there some conclusive evidence about its accuracy and stuff?

I ask this mainly looking at the sleep monitoring. There are thousands of dollars worth of machines that hospitals use to monitor patient sleep patterns, eye movements, and brain activity. How does a $130 device manage to do it for less? If you take that with a grain of salt, then shouldn't everything else the data tells you be the same?

For activity measuring, it's no different than a pedometer then. A pedometer and a cheap heart rate monitor for $130? I need to see more evidence. All the reviews I've seen so far are tech sites and they will obviously harp on the tech aspect of it, like how cool it is and its features, or lack thereof (wireless sync, etc.).

That's why I see it as a bit of a gimmick.

EDIT: In fact, without reading this article and going straight to the Verdict, it says exactly what I'm saying.

http://www.techradar.com/us/reviews/gadgets/jawbone-up-1145335/review

If you have $130 to blow on some questionable statistics, then go for it. It'll definitely be interesting. I don't think someone that serious about improving their lifestyle is going to take it too seriously, though. Otherwise doctors would be recommending this thing left and right to use in conjunction with their knowledge and noted patient progress

 

[Pittsey]

It's never going to make fat people exercise. You'd need to run in front of them with a cake to do that.

And... No-one is arguing that it's nothing more than a pedometer. But... It's a pedometer with GPS tracking. Like all the apps such as runkeeper and endomondo, you can track the routes you have just ran or cycled. It's good to plot and measure your runs. It helps keep you motivated. It's easier to use the jawbone on your wrist than to carry your phone.

As for sleep monitoring.... It's not precise. It doesn't even need to be. It's good to be able to work out how much sleep you are getting .And the alarm is discrete, which is handy if you're up early and have someone laying next to you who wants to sleep in.

 

[S O F I]

No, I know the functions, but I still feel these things are gimmicks. You asked about this a few months back as well, and while it seems cool, I don't see how it's worth $100. I'll look into it more, but is there some conclusive evidence about its accuracy and stuff?

I ask this mainly looking at the sleep monitoring. There are thousands of dollars worth of machines that hospitals use to monitor patient sleep patterns, eye movements, and brain activity. How does a $130 device manage to do it for less? If you take that with a grain of salt, then shouldn't everything else the data tells you be the same?

For activity measuring, it's no different than a pedometer then. A pedometer and a cheap heart rate monitor for $130? I need to see more evidence. All the reviews I've seen so far are tech sites and they will obviously harp on the tech aspect of it, like how cool it is and its features, or lack thereof (wireless sync, etc.).

That's why I see it as a bit of a gimmick.

EDIT: In fact, without reading this article and going straight to the Verdict, it says exactly what I'm saying.

http://www.techradar.com/us/reviews/gadgets/jawbone-up-1145335/review

If you have $130 to blow on some questionable statistics, then go for it. It'll definitely be interesting. I don't think someone that serious about improving their lifestyle is going to take it too seriously, though. Otherwise doctors would be recommending this thing left and right to use in conjunction with their knowledge and noted patient progress

Those are all valid points. In my case, I'm willing to give it a try. If anything, it'll be motivation. It might not be accurate when it counts 1,000 steps, but if it shows 2,000 next time, I'll be confident that I walked more. Shit like that. The main reason for that is I've read several reviews where the reviewers used it for a week or more. Some thought it was accurate and helpful and some found it an inaccurate overpriced gimmick. Therefore, that tells me I need to test it for myself. $130 is not going to set me back drastically. I've dropped more than that at the bar in a night too many times.

 

[Jokerman]

$130 is not going to set me back drastically. I've dropped more than that at the bar in a night too many times.

Pay with credit if you drink so much you keep dropping cash on the floor.

 

[dilla]

It's never going to make fat people exercise. You'd need to run in front of them with a cake to do that.

And... No-one is arguing that it's nothing more than a pedometer. But... It's a pedometer with GPS tracking. Like all the apps such as runkeeper and endomondo, you can track the routes you have just ran or cycled. It's good to plot and measure your runs. It helps keep you motivated. It's easier to use the jawbone on your wrist than to carry your phone.

As for sleep monitoring.... It's not precise. It doesn't even need to be. It's good to be able to work out how much sleep you are getting .And the alarm is discrete, which is handy if you're up early and have someone laying next to you who wants to sleep in.

Fat people wouldn't even look at this. So this is essentially a pedometer with GPS? Sure, it beats carrying your phone, but do you really have to plot/map your runs? You can't just Google Maps, see the distance, and do that distance daily?

Must be a runners thing. I know runners say they always get a high from running, something I never understood, but I can respect. But I still can't see this catching on and being used seriously. I think there are alternatives that do what this thing does, although maybe through several different devices as opposed to just one. I think it's more of a fashion statement with a hint of biodata.

 

[Pittsey]

Fat people wouldn't even look at this. So this is essentially a pedometer with GPS? Sure, it beats carrying your phone, but do you really have to plot/map your runs? You can't just Google Maps, see the distance, and do that distance daily?

Must be a runners thing. I know runners say they always get a high from running, something I never understood, but I can respect. But I still can't see this catching on and being used seriously. I think there are alternatives that do what this thing does, although maybe through several different devices as opposed to just one. I think it's more of a fashion statement with a hint of biodata.

You could. But for £100, why not wear a device that saves you 5 minutes a day plotting and timing your runs on google maps.

I personally wouldn't wear this as a fashion statement, I'd prefer something that doesn't stand out. But I do want to monitor my sleep and activity. Just like I like to monitor what I eat and how much water I consume. It's all part of managing a healthy lifestyle. But... I am old, and you are young. So maybe it's something you'll come to appreciate the benefit of in future.

Also... I work as an electronics engineer (or did) so I love a gadget.

 

[masta247]

I like running but I never plan where I'm going to run. That way it would be boring for me. Same with riding a bike, unless I have a clear purpose, in which case I don't need to use maps.

I never monitor anything but time, resources and the bitches.

 

[dilla]

You could. But for £100, why not wear a device that saves you 5 minutes a day plotting and timing your runs on google maps.

I personally wouldn't wear this as a fashion statement, I'd prefer something that doesn't stand out. But I do want to monitor my sleep and activity. Just like I like to monitor what I eat and how much water I consume. It's all part of managing a healthy lifestyle. But... I am old, and you are young. So maybe it's something you'll come to appreciate the benefit of in future.

Also... I work as an electronics engineer (or did) so I love a gadget.

I can see that. The thing is, my dad is a sleep specialist, among other things, and so I know how sleep is properly monitored using the equipment that he has and I've seen the data that comes out of a sleep study as a result of the monitoring devices. In addition to eye movements and brain activity, data is taken on leg movements and oxygen saturation levels as well as general breathing patterns to assess the quality of sleep and its length.

When you have gotten a rough idea using the Up, of what your sleep is like, I would recommend getting a sleep study done at a sleep lab. The data from one of those will tell you much more about your sleep, if you are seriously interested in it.

 

[Pittsey]

I can see that. The thing is, my dad is a sleep specialist, among other things, and so I know how sleep is properly monitored using the equipment that he has and I've seen the data that comes out of a sleep study as a result of the monitoring devices. In addition to eye movements and brain activity, data is taken on leg movements and oxygen saturation levels as well as general breathing patterns to assess the quality of sleep and its length.

When you have gotten a rough idea using the Up, of what your sleep is like, I would recommend getting a sleep study done at a sleep lab. The data from one of those will tell you much more about your sleep, if you are seriously interested in it.

All I really want to know, is how much I am getting. I don't have a problem with my sleep. I am just interested in what time I fall asleep.

Like SOFI said, I don't expect it to be precise. But it's a good motivator. If it says I have only slept 30 hours in a week. I know I can sleep in one day, without feeling guilty.

 

[Pittsey]

Fitbit flex ? - Cheaper and has BT sync - http://www.engadget.com/2013/05/06/fitbit-flex-review/

 

[S O F I]

BT sync for like 3 android phones on the planet. and you don't have one. unless you sold your N4 and bought a note or sg4.

 

[masta247]

Entering information like meals eaten and every glass of water I had sounds like the worst chore possible ever.

 

[Pittsey]

BT sync for like 3 android phones on the planet. and you don't have one. unless you sold your N4 and bought a note or sg4.

My mum still has the S3, I gave her.

But..... That will expand soon. It hasn't even released yet.

Entering information like meals eaten and every glass of water I had sounds like the worst chore possible ever.

Writing 20 pages replies to questions about Macs, sounds like the worst chore possible....!

 

[S O F I]

i'm not going to be logging my food.