The Official NBA Thread 2011-12

Or maybe they're ready to make a big move...

Think about a package with Morrison, Brown, Odom, Mihm... for say................ Amare Stoudemire.

The suns are in rebulding mode.
Anyone else on the trading block?

:)
 

yak pac fatal

Well-Known Member
Potential trades for Amare


NETS: Yi Jianlian, Stromile Swift, Ryan Anderson, Jarvis Hayes and a No. 1 pick

• See this trade in the ESPN Trade Machine

Why they'd do it: The Nets could be immediate contenders again with a team of Devin Harris, Vince Carter, Brook Lopez and Amare. And if they end up finding a new home for Vince Carter at the trade deadline or this summer (word is the Spurs are interested), the Nets might have the opportunity in 2010 to offer LeBron James a chance to play with Harris, Amare and Lopez.



The Suns would get a young big with a bright future in Yi plus another first-round pick -- either the Nets' pick this year, or the one Dallas owes the Nets in 2010. They would also clear about $12 million off their cap next year when Swift, Ager and Hayes all come off the books.



Why the wouldn't do it: It's hard to imagine that New Jersey wouldn't do it. Amare can come off the books in 2010, meaning that New Jersey could still pursue LeBron and other free agents then, even if they make the trade. In the meantime, they would be relevant again.



For the Suns, the question would be, is this enough to get for Amare? Yi is a talent and the pick would be nice. But is there a better trade to be made?


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BULLS: Tyrus Thomas, Thabo Sefolosha, Cedric Simmons and Drew Gooden

• See this trade in the ESPN Trade Machine


Why they'd do it: For the Bulls, this is likely a no-brainer. They've needed a frontcourt presence like Amare for years. Although he's not the classic low-post banger or rebounder that would be ideal for Chicago, he's great in the open floor and looks like a perfect complement to Derrick Rose and Luol Deng.

For the Suns, this trade would save them nearly $9 million next season and give them two young players with potential. Although neither Thomas nor Sefolosha has shined the way the Bulls had envisoned when they drafted them, their defensive abilities and athleticism would be welcome in Phoenix.



Why they wouldn't: Coach Vinny Del Negro spent several years in the Phoenix front office before taking the job in Chicago. He knows Amare and might be steering GM John Paxson away from acquiring him.

This deal wouldn't give the Suns much in the way of cap savings. They might want to deal with a team that can save them more money down the road.


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KNICKS: David Lee, Nate Robinson and Stephon Marbury

• See this trade in the ESPN Trade Machine

Why they'd do it: The Knicks want to lure LeBron to New York and have planned on trying to add two superstars in the summer of 2010. If they can get one now … why not do it? Adding Stoudemire to the mix would electrify the fan base in New York, and you know Mike D'Antoni knows how to get the best out of Amare. To make this deal work under the cap, the Suns would have to include Barbosa. But no worries, the Knicks need guards, too.



Lee is the type of player Kerr is looking for. He rebounds, plays defense, hustles on every play and is still young. Obviously, the Suns would waive Marbury quickly to end his second stop in Phoenix and be able to drop $10-12 million in payroll next summer.



Why they wouldn't: If the Knicks add Barbosa and Stoudemire, they would have room to pursue LeBron in the summer of 2010 but no one else. Are they really ready to put all their eggs in that one basket?

As for the Suns, if money is the main issue, will they be able to keep Lee and Robinson? Both are restricted free agents this summer, and Lee, especially, likely will command a rich deal … perhaps too rich for Sarver's wallet.


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HEAT: Michael Beasley and Shawn Marion

• See this trade in the ESPN Trade Machine

Why they'd do it: It sounds strange to hear of the Heat potentially doing a second-straight trade deadline deal with Phoenix, especially since it involves sending Marion back to the Suns, but this time Miami would get what it really wants, a young big to pair with Dwyane Wade. Wade and Stoudemire would be probably the most athletic tandem in the league and great cornerstones for the franchise.



The Suns could let Marion's large contract expire, then try out Beasley in Stoudemire's place. Beasley is an incredible talent and probably the best prospect they could get for Stoudemire.



Why they wouldn't: It's hard to see what would stop the Heat from pulling the trigger. The deal would almost be too good to be true. The biggest downside is that the Heat would have to take back Alando Tucker and Goran Dragic to make the salaries work.



For the Suns, it's not a bad deal if Beasley's as good as everyone thought he was coming out of college.


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THUNDER: Jeff Green, Joe Smith and Desmond Mason

• See this trade in the ESPN Trade Machine


Why they'd do it: The Thunder have been methodically collecting assets and expiring contracts. But even though Oklahoma City will have lots of cap room this summer, will anyone want to go there?

Adding Stoudemire to the mix would immediately jump-start the fledgling franchise. The potential of a core of Stoudemire, Kevin Durant and Russell Westbrook would be, in a word, awesome.



Green would be the draw for Phoenix. Although not everyone in the league is in love with Green, but after Beasley, Green might be the best young player the Suns could get in a Stoudemire trade. And the expiring contracts of Smith and Mason would allow the Suns to clear another $10 million off their cap this summer.



Why they wouldn't: The Thunder would struggle to re-sign Stoudemire in 2010, especially if they weren't a contender by then. If a big-market team such as the Knicks or Heat came courting, OKC could lose him for nothing, setting back the franchise.



The Suns like Green, but is he enough? He's been frustratingly inconsistent and just doesn't look like the type of player you can build around.


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PISTONS: Amir Johnson and Rasheed Wallace

• See this trade in the ESPN Trade Machine


Why they'd do it: Joe Dumars has the best track record in the league of rehabilitating players other teams have given up on. Under his wing, Chauncey Billups, Richard Hamilton, Ben Wallace and Rasheed Wallace thrived. Could he do the same for Stoudemire? Add Amare to young gun Rodney Stuckey and great team players such as Hamilton and Tayshaun Prince, and the Pistons are a force again in the East.


The Suns get Wallace's expiring contract, plus they get Johnson, a young big with a ton of potential.



Why they wouldn't: If they stand pat, the Pistons potentially will have $20 million under the cap this summer with little competition for big-time free agents. If Amare were to bolt Detroit in 2010 or fail to fit in, the Pistons would have swung and missed on their best chance to build another contender.



The Suns wouldn't be getting much here. Wallace comes off the books this summer, but is Johnson good enough to be a difference-maker? He's been a little ordinary in Detroit this year, raising the question, how much longer can we focus on his "potential" and wait for it to be realized?


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CAVS: J.J. Hickson and Wally Szczerbiak

• See this trade in the ESPN Trade Machine


Why they'd do it: The Cavs have been trying to land another star in Cleveland to play alongside LeBron James. Stoudemire would be a grand slam for them.



The Suns would get back $13 million in cap relief and land a young power forward many NBA scouts are very high on. Hickson hasn't done much yet, but many scouts see him as a potential star big man.



Why they wouldn't: Coach Mike Brown is committed to defense. Amare isn't. I wonder how that would work out.



The Suns wouldn't be getting a sure thing in exchange for Stoudemire. As desperate as they might be to turn the team around, are they really that desperate?




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GRIZZLIES: Mike Conley, Hakim Warrick and Darko Milicic

• See this trade in the ESPN Trade Machine


Why they'd do it: The Grizzlies desperately need a power forward to pair with Rudy Gay and O.J. Mayo. Stoudemire would give them three of the best young players in the league and bring real hope to Memphis.

The Suns would come away with some talent, although they would undoubtedly try to get the Grizzlies to put Gay in the deal. Conley could be the eventual heir to Steve Nash at the point, Warrick is a solid role player and Milicic can block shots and rebound when he's healthy.


Why they wouldn't: It's hard to imagine Memphis re-signing Stoudemire in the summer of 2010, given its reputation for being reluctant to spend. So trading Conley, Warrick and Milicic is one thing; gambling Gay to rent Stoudemire for a season and a half is a risk the Grizzlies are unlikely to take.

The Suns, meanwhile, want salary-cap relief as part of a return package for Stoudemire and this deal offers the least of any listed here. Only Warrick's contract comes off the books this summer.
Possible partners in Amare deal - ESPN

i wont mind to see vince carter with the spurs
 
fuckin adelman
tat lil bitch
ALL PLAYED MORE then wafer
mutombo /heeys playd more then wafer
WTF
guy is a next all star
and fucking bitch coach let him play 4 min ?
ahahahahaha puss shitt
he scored 5 points in that 4 min
5 points in 40 sec n shit
I hope kobe sign him to LA and let him start ...
 

yak pac fatal

Well-Known Member
fuckin adelman
tat lil bitch
ALL PLAYED MORE then wafer
mutombo /heeys playd more then wafer
WTF
guy is a next all star
and fucking bitch coach let him play 4 min ?
ahahahahaha puss shitt
he scored 5 points in that 4 min
5 points in 40 sec n shit
I hope kobe sign him to LA and let him start ...
how did ya manage to win with t-mac in ur lineup?
 

yak pac fatal

Well-Known Member
ahh, this game's got me nervous.
fuck,
kobe's dead...

Odom's steppin it up though ahaha,
fuck yea. double double already.

kobe and lebron both quiet right now.
lets go!!!
kobes playin iight

lebrons playin like ass, hes trying get that jkidd style triple double, 10pts 10rebs 10asts

wally is doin his thang, keepin the cavs in the game

lakers need bynum
 

ARon

Well-Known Member
Yeahhhhh boy. Kobe played alright, you can tell he was fucked up. LeBron though, I dont know what his excuse is lol. As far as Lamar Odom goes I love when he plays like that but I hate that he doesnt play like that every single game. The Los Angeles Lakers are your 2009 NBA Champions baby wooo.
 

SicC

Dying Breed
Staff member
Vlad to the Bobcats......

For Adam Morrison and Shannon Brown. How gay, their averages are like 4.0points, 1 rebound, and 0.8 assists.

What the fuck?
What's going on?
Vlads lack of defense was probably the biggest reason behind this move, also keep in mind that Morrison has not cracked Larry Browns rotation hence why his numbers are so low.

Cavs shut down at home by the Lakers, really no big surprise there.

pz
 

yak pac fatal

Well-Known Member
Vlads lack of defense was probably the biggest reason behind this move, also keep in mind that Morrison has not cracked Larry Browns rotation hence why his numbers are so low.

Cavs shut down at home by the Lakers, really no big surprise there.

pz
niether one of the players lakers recieved play d
 
hahaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa,
that's all we do.


break streaks.


fuck yes.


u dint brake rockets 22 wining streak last season...

The Los Angeles Lakers are your 2009 NBA Champions baby wooo.

just like last year?
 

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