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dilla

Trumpfan17 aka Coonie aka Dilla aka Tennis Dog
I think genres that are predominantly one-race tend to get the bad raps. Like blacks and hispanics in hip hop or whites with country and rock music. Ever notice no one rags on pop music? When you have Rihanna, Gaga, Britney, etc. all just doing their thing. People rag on them personally, but never the genre as a whole.

As a side note, sure there are more white rappers than there are black country musicians.
 

S O F I

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I suppose people listen to rap for different reasons. I'm always curious when people make comments like the one Ristol made. Or worse yet, when they say they "outgrew" rap. It always makes me think, "What about rap did you even like in the first place?"

If you started liking rap because of the beats, the melodies, the cadences, the unapologetic expression, how does that just go away when you turn a certain age?

If you listened to rap because you thought it was cool how rappers cuss and your Christian mother didn't want you cussing in the house and nobody liked you in middle school and you were angry so you started listening to Tupac, then I fucking feel sorry for you.
 

tHuG $TyLe

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vg, you better not be brown. I've been picturing you as white this whole time.
He's Indian :)

I suppose people listen to rap for different reasons. I'm always curious when people make comments like the one Ristol made. Or worse yet, when they say they "outgrew" rap. It always makes me think, "What about rap did you even like in the first place?"

If you started liking rap because of the beats, the melodies, the cadences, the unapologetic expression, how does that just go away when you turn a certain age?

If you listened to rap because you thought it was cool how rappers cuss and your Christian mother didn't want you cussing in the house and nobody liked you in middle school and you were angry so you started listening to Tupac, then I fucking feel sorry for you.
I agree, I never got into Rap music 'cause it was seen as rebellious; I got in the genre because of the beats, the samples, the lyrics, the different styles, the story telling.

The ones who outgrow Rap are the ones who probably only got into it 'cause they thought it was the cool thing to do.
 

Da_Funk

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I suppose people listen to rap for different reasons. I'm always curious when people make comments like the one Ristol made. Or worse yet, when they say they "outgrew" rap. It always makes me think, "What about rap did you even like in the first place?"

If you started liking rap because of the beats, the melodies, the cadences, the unapologetic expression, how does that just go away when you turn a certain age?

If you listened to rap because you thought it was cool how rappers cuss and your Christian mother didn't want you cussing in the house and nobody liked you in middle school and you were angry so you started listening to Tupac, then I fucking feel sorry for you.
I got into Tupac because of the passion that resonanted through his music. I've never found that in any other rapper except Eminem, and even then its hit and miss. I was never into rap music.

Then there is the superficial problem that no girl over the age of 20 is going to get into bed with you once she gets in your car and your bumping thugged out music when you're a white 20+ year old who grew up in the suburbs. Thats besides the point though.
 

dilla

Trumpfan17 aka Coonie aka Dilla aka Tennis Dog
I suppose people listen to rap for different reasons. I'm always curious when people make comments like the one Ristol made. Or worse yet, when they say they "outgrew" rap. It always makes me think, "What about rap did you even like in the first place?"

If you started liking rap because of the beats, the melodies, the cadences, the unapologetic expression, how does that just go away when you turn a certain age?

If you listened to rap because you thought it was cool how rappers cuss and your Christian mother didn't want you cussing in the house and nobody liked you in middle school and you were angry so you started listening to Tupac, then I fucking feel sorry for you.
I liked it for the beats. I was definitely not a rebellious type. My parents didn't care what I listened to and my mom would drive me to the store to buy a CD (back when I used to buy them) and never made a fuss.

This was in about 2003. Music from that era was different from music in the 90s, which I also listened to, and is also vastly different from today's music. Some people don't like change. I know I no longer get excited to go to RGF and look at the album section to see if anything new has come out. Because at this point, if it isn't by AOTP, JMT, or anyone affiliated with them, I don't get excited and usually just listen to singles on YouTube to decide whether it's any good. If it's rappers I liked back in 03, like 50 Cent, Mobb Deep, etc., they too have changed drastically. Mobb Deep of today doesn't sound like the Mobb Deep of 96. I'm not expecting it to. Ok, I am, but I know it's a bit unreasonable. But "outgrowing" rap, for me, is the change in style of beats, lyrics, etc. in hip hop today that I can't see myself getting acclimated to in the future.

I certainly don't think I'm above hip hop, that it's something that young, ignorant people listen to. It's just different now. And anyone would be lying if they said they absolutely love change, even outside of music.
 

S O F I

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Then there is the superficial problem that no girl over the age of 20 is going to get into bed with you once she gets in your car and your bumping thugged out music when you're a white 20+ year old who grew up in the suburbs. Thats besides the point though.
This is simply not true. Maybe because I live in a relatively progressive city. I don't know. Perhaps that's the situation in your place and that's just down right unfortunate. Sorry to hear that.

I think the problem with your belief here is that you associate the music with the person. If you're bumping Young Jeezy, that means you're a thug or trying to be something you're not. It seems like you're a part of the problem for having that backward thinking.
 

Ristol

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This is simply not true. Maybe because I live in a relatively progressive city. I don't know. Perhaps that's the situation in your place and that's just down right unfortunate. Sorry to hear that.
Hey, welcome back passive aggressive SOFI. Missed you.
 

S O F I

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I was bumping Wu-Tang the other day, smoking blunt after blunt. Then I woke up and was like "No, I don't want to smoke weed anymore" and started listening to a dude talking about drinking in his dreams.
 

Ristol

New York's Ambassador
^Psst. SOFI. Mike Doughty isn't the only thing I listen to.

I still like rap. I didn't outgrow it or anything. I still listen to the rappers I used to listen to, but I'm not accepting new applications at the moment. Nothing I hear from the genre really jumps out at me. (Granted, I spend most of my music time listening to non-rappers, so I'm not as up-to-date as some of you.)

Also, I don't care. It's funny that you guys become a bunch of grumpy grandpas when someone says rap is a young person's thing.
 

Da_Funk

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This is simply not true. Maybe because I live in a relatively progressive city. I don't know. Perhaps that's the situation in your place and that's just down right unfortunate. Sorry to hear that...
If you could pick up you'd know it to be true. Sorry.
I think the problem with your belief here is that you associate the music with the person. If you're bumping Young Jeezy, that means you're a thug or trying to be something you're not. It seems like you're a part of the problem for having that backward thinking.
No, I don't think so. Rap music just isn't my cup of tea.

Jeezy is the lamest thing out there.[/quote]
 

S O F I

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I wasn't aware you kept up-to-date on my dating situation. I agree that you don't really like rap music. Hence why you perceive others who do like it the way you do. I was pointing that out.
 

Flipmo

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Don't see anything wrong with listening to rap music as you get older. It's all a matter of finding the diamonds in the rough. The poppy, uninspiring shit tends to disappear over time... It's a pain to hear though. That being said...

 

dilla

Trumpfan17 aka Coonie aka Dilla aka Tennis Dog
There's a lot more dirt now that the internet (namely MySpace) has put anyone with a mic and a beats program as a musician. Of course, it's also become easier to find underground rappers amongst all the mainstream trash the radio pours out. No hipster.
 

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