The Official NBA Thread 2011-12

[S O F I]

^the second thijg is a good business move and it doesn't disadvantage the teams, so that's not "fixing".

so, again, what evidence is there that stern is fixing games

 

[Killuminatii 71]

There was some evidence that came out this year, that the refs were told (during the 2001? playoffs when the Lakers were playing the Kings in the WCF) to give the advantage to the Lakers. I think Art posted something on it in this topic back during the season.

But yea, the whole truth isn't going to come out about what really happens. It's more of a conspiracy than anything, but with everything that was surrounding the NBA regarding the Lakers/Kings series and the Donaghy scandal... anything is possible.

 

[yak pac fatal]

didnt stern fix the draft so the knicks draft ewing?

 

[Killuminatii 71]

^Idk did he? Ive never heard of that one before.

Orlando Magic guard Rafer Alston(notes) had the answer for his poor shooting effort in Game 1 of the NBA Finals: It was coach Stan Van Gundy's fault, according to the New York Daily News.

Alston said Van Gundy's decision to play returning point guard Jameer Nelson(notes) during the entire second quarter led to his dismal shooting performance. Alston was 2-for-4 in the first quarter and then 0-for-5 in the second half.

"I'll give you a good excuse," a grinning Alston said. "I sat 12 minutes real game time, I sat about 30 minutes real life time. So there's an excuse.

"It was odd. I mean, I think everyone can see that. That's unusual to start the game and then you don't even touch the court in the second quarter. But there's no pouting, there's no getting mad, there's going to be no coach and Alston meeting about it. I'm going to go out here and get ready for Game 2 (Sunday night) and prepare myself like I have been all playoffs."

So i guess Alston is blaming his coach for his poor shooting night haha. So who's to blame for the rest of the team's poor shooting night?

 

[yak pac fatal]

I've learned that the NBA will announce tomorrow (Sunday) that the 2011 NBA All Star game will be played at Staples Center.

This is a major acquisition for the Anschutz Entertainment Group (AEG), who will have their billion dollar hotel complex--half Ritz-Carlton and half Marriott--open for business long before the game. It will be the second All Star game played at Staples, which last hosted the game in 2004. But this time around, the entire LA Live complex (which had not been built in '04), is expected to host a variety of events surrounding All Star weekend.

Staples Center officials had no comment today, but AEG President Tim Leiweke, mayor Antonio Villaraigosa, and NBA Commisioner David Stern will make the announcement at 4:15 PST Sunday.

The 2010 NBA All Star game will be played in Dallas, at the Cowboys' new football stadium.

the fuck!? they had it in 04

 

[Killuminatii 71]

the fuck!? they had it in 04

LMAO! Who said Stern wasn't pulling strings?

Look at it this way, Lakers will re-sign Kobe/Gasol/Ariza/ and maybe Odom. They are the team of the decade because of their young team. LA is the perfect place to have an All Star game.

Muahahahaha, i feel sorry for you guys 'cause im in SoCal so i'll probably end up going to that All Star game if it really comes down here.

 

[yak pac fatal]

^stern loves LA more than 2pac

 

[yak pac fatal]

LOS ANGELES -- It was an odd sighting. There was Adam Morrison, the man some claimed several years ago was the next Larry Bird, sitting quietly at the end of the Los Angeles Lakers bench, alone, as other Lakers joked and took shots toward the end of a recent practice.

He looked like a man out of place, like he didn't belong, and if you've watched his play over the past few years, that's exactly the case.

J.J. Redick was supposed to be a shooting star in the NBA but here he is, barely a factor for Orlando. The Magic are in the championship series and Redick is an afterthought, despite getting significant minutes in the second round vs. Boston.

The situations of the two players, the Matt Leinart and Andre Ware of the NBA, lead to a question.

What happened to them? How did Morrison and Redick end up in this awful place, their careers all but forgotten, so soon after they began?

There was once a debate in the NBA and college basketball world: Who would be the better pro player, Morrison or Redick? Unless you borrowed H.G. Wells' time machine, no one ever in their wildest dreams predicted that both would be busts. No one.

Ironically, the two players are in the NBA Finals and you can be assured neither thought they would get to the summit this way, climbing on the backs of others.

Both men were catalysts for their college teams, the backbone in some ways. Morrison was one of the more electric and fascinating players college had birthed in a decade. Because of his ethnicity he was compared to Bird, an incredibly weighty burden, like a young actor being told he's the next De Niro.

Redick made more 3-pointers in college (457) than anyone in NCAA history and when picked 11th in the 2006 draft he was supposed to be a surefire outside threat. Since being drafted, Redick has been an unreliable part of the Magic rotation with his lack of defensive play and poor dribble penetration being exposed in the blitzkrieg that is the NBA.

As for Morrison, it's unfortunate and a hard thing to state (particularly since Morrison was my favorite when he played in college) but it's true: Morrison has to be considered one of the great busts in league history.

Morrison was the third pick in the 2006 draft, selected by Charlotte Bobcats executive Michael Jordan (yet another indicator Jordan was a horrid personnel man). Morrison, who missed the entire 2007-08 season with a knee injury, has averaged just under nine points a game; I always thought he would average at least double that and then some.

Remember, Morrison and Redick were named co-players of the year in college. It was the first time in the 50-year history of the United States Basketball Writers Association that two players earned the award.

"About once in a generation, we see a situation where there are two extraordinary players who separate themselves from the rest of college basketball and clearly stand together as the best in the game," the organization said in a statement at the time. "It happened in 1979 with Larry Bird and Magic Johnson and the USBWA feels it has happened again with Adam Morrison and J.J. Redick. Our organization has never voted for co-players of the year but on this, the 50th anniversary of the USBWA, it seems entirely appropriate to break with precedent in order to honor two equally deserving young men."

The careers of both have broken down in just three short years.

The easy reason to say that both were busts is because of the massive media uber-hyping when they were in college. The allure of two skilled white players in a black-dominated sport was something the media seemed to love, and it blinded many of us to what were obvious weaknesses in their games.

The largest factor in their mediocrity is that neither player, it turns out, can create his own shot. The NBA isn't about systems, like at Duke or Gonzaga (or the triangle offense, either), it's about individual athleticism and one-on-one battles. You beat your man off the dribble, you win. It's that simple.

If you can't do that then at least you play tough defense. Yet if there was a list of the worst defenders in the NBA both Morrison and Redick would make the top five.

When they both were drafted there were people who envisioned Morrison and Redick battling in the NBA Finals and redefining the sport.

Well, they're here, in the Finals, and doing some damn fine redefining, just not in the way they or anyone else ever expected.

lol they ass

 

[ArtsyGirl]

Everybody loves a conspiracy theory

Alston isn't very consistent. He can't blame that on his coach.

Redick & Morrison just need to work hard, it's still early days in their careers, nobody said it would be easy. (Or did they?)

 

[Killuminatii 71]

Fact: L.A. is undefeated this season in their Sunday white uniforms.

 

[yak pac fatal]

Everybody loves a conspiracy theory

Alston isn't very consistent. He can't blame that on his coach.

Redick & Morrison just need to work hard, it's still early days in their careers, nobody said it would be easy. (Or did they?)

they expected redick right off the bat to be a great shooter in this league and as for morrison to avg double digit points.

they both first gotta hit the weight room, especially morrison and improve their defense if they want to stay in the nba. i will admit they both will have better stats if they played under dantoni system which fuck defense and shoot away

 

[Killuminatii 71]

Over-muthafuckin-time!

 

[yak pac fatal]

i want double ot

 

[Killuminatii 71]

you only get one...

Lakers up 2-0.
Halfway there.

 

[yak pac fatal]

lol magic had 20 turnovers, how the hell did they make it to the finals? 20 turnovers in a finals game is uncalled for. series over.

 

[roaches]

adam morrison is done in the nba. jj reddick has a future as a role player, i think... his d is unfairly maligned.

lol magic had 20 turnovers, how the hell did they make it to the finals? 20 turnovers in a finals game is uncalled for. series over.

blazers had 34 in game 1 of the 77 finals... they won the series in 6 (against a philly squad led by dr. j).

 

[Killuminatii 71]

Can't wait for game 3, wooooo... it's gonna be great. Magic are gonna be shooting the lights out in Orlando, but never count out the Lakers... remember they won Game 3 in Houston, and they won Game 3 in Denver.

 

[yak pac fatal]

adam morrison is done in the nba. jj reddick has a future as a role player, i think... his d is unfairly maligned.

blazers had 34 in game 1 of the 77 finals... they won the series in 6 (against a philly squad led by dr. j).

adamn morrison was a potent scorer in college but his body cant keep with the nba. if he hits the gym i think he can.

its sad i always keep faith in the players like telfair/livingston/darko/morrison/redick :worried:

note i didnt put in kwame brown

 

[ArtsyGirl]

I need someone to explain why in the end of the fourth when Lakers got a rebound and called time out they got the ball down Orlando's end. Then when Kobe got stripped by Turkie they got the ball down their end of the court? It was like the same situation yet Orlando got the advantage of getting the ball at their own end..? I'm confuseded.

Anywho didn't impact the end result Yay! Orlando games should be interesting, see how homecourt effects the series for Magic.

Odom was pretty amazing tonight.

 

[yak pac fatal]

when u call a timeout during the final 2 min of the game, the team who called the timeout advances to the halfcourt line.