Nas - Hero

ChrisZimbo

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#3
its alright, i see he hit up Polow for the mainstream spins. However, this is not even close to getting him some radio play imo, back to the drawing board.
 

ARon

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#5
Black Presidents is from the Nigger Tape. How can you honestly say that song sucks though.

This song is tight. Zim, how you gonna say back to the drawing board for radio play? Look at his singles man, they ain't for radio play. Made You Look, Thief's Theme, Bridging the Gap, them shits ain't aimed at radio play. Anyway, good song.
 

S O F I

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#8
i haven't listened, but did you hear the black presidents track? that one sucked ass.
How? It's not possible.


You have a speech sample of the next US president in the intro, Tupac's line and a response to it "Yes We Can" which is a slogan in Obama's campaign, a pretty good beat, solid verses by Nas with a good message...This song can't suck.

I'm not even being sarcastic, btw.
 

ChrisZimbo

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#12
Black Presidents is from the Nigger Tape. How can you honestly say that song sucks though.

This song is tight. Zim, how you gonna say back to the drawing board for radio play? Look at his singles man, they ain't for radio play. Made You Look, Thief's Theme, Bridging the Gap, them shits ain't aimed at radio play. Anyway, good song.
I might be hating a bit. This the official single off the album though, i don't know, maybe i was just expecting a little better. I'll take a few more listens and see if it grows on me.
 

Preach

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#15
How? It's not possible.


You have a speech sample of the next US president in the intro, Tupac's line and a response to it "Yes We Can" which is a slogan in Obama's campaign, a pretty good beat, solid verses by Nas with a good message...This song can't suck.

I'm not even being sarcastic, btw.
The beat sounded like a Graduation off-take, that particular Pac line is from a shitty remix, and CGI pac vocals that sounded bad to begin with make me puke. Maybe it's years of sucky internet remixes.

Also, I don't know why Nas verses are solid. First of all, he is too uh. I don't even have a word for it. In one line he's talking about black people and struggle, in the next it's about arabs and allah, then the next one it's about keeping it true to your family. He goes all over the place, some times from line to line, some times within one line. He tries to be deep with his rhymes, I just don't think it works, so when he does a track like this that doesn't work for me either. Thus, I think it's wack. I think early Nas is okay, but just that. It's not superdope or the best shit ever, there's other stuff I like way more.

Another thing that factors into me disliking Nas is that his last two albums were hyped up but really, the albums don't have as much to do with the topic as you would think. This upcoming album won't be a musical journey, it'll be like American Gangster, I'll skip almost all the songs. I won't feel like a nigger when I'm done listening to this album, and wasn't that Nas' point? That any person who ever got discriminated is per his definition a "nigga", and that's what this album is about? I remember the interview. Well, you see? Big words, yet the album will be mediocre at best.

And If I think otherwise when it drops I'll eat these words.
 

Preach

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#16
Surviving the Times, was that before or after ....is dead? That's one Nas song I liked. And also, it's a song where I thought he managed to stay on topic for the most part. Just to demonstrate I'm not a pure hater.
 

Chronic

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#17
I just can't listen to Nas anymore. Every word he speaks comes off as pretentious horseshit to me. I just fucking know he uttered the words "this is on some John Lennon shit!" during the recording of the album. And I'm guessing he only started listening to John Lennon (if he even does now) after he was doing research for the album and discovered his song "Woman is the Nigger of the World".
*cradles Illmatic*
 

S O F I

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#19
The beat sounded like a Graduation off-take, that particular Pac line is from a shitty remix, and CGI pac vocals that sounded bad to begin with make me puke. Maybe it's years of sucky internet remixes.

Also, I don't know why Nas verses are solid. First of all, he is too uh. I don't even have a word for it. In one line he's talking about black people and struggle, in the next it's about arabs and allah, then the next one it's about keeping it true to your family. He goes all over the place, some times from line to line, some times within one line. He tries to be deep with his rhymes, I just don't think it works, so when he does a track like this that doesn't work for me either. Thus, I think it's wack. I think early Nas is okay, but just that. It's not superdope or the best shit ever, there's other stuff I like way more.

Another thing that factors into me disliking Nas is that his last two albums were hyped up but really, the albums don't have as much to do with the topic as you would think. This upcoming album won't be a musical journey, it'll be like American Gangster, I'll skip almost all the songs. I won't feel like a nigger when I'm done listening to this album, and wasn't that Nas' point? That any person who ever got discriminated is per his definition a "nigga", and that's what this album is about? I remember the interview. Well, you see? Big words, yet the album will be mediocre at best.

And If I think otherwise when it drops I'll eat these words.
I accept that criticism of Nas' music. Only thing I'd like to point out is that no rapper stays on topic in his verse. It's just not something that one expects from rap music and we as fans have let rappers get away with that.
 

roaches

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#20
dude this song is great, what dont you like about it?
I never said I didn't like it. I just *know* Polow has better beats on his table and this one + the hook makes for a weak "Stronger" clone. The rapping's all right. I'm sure once I hear a properly mixed version of this with some low end I'll even enjoy it.
 

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