Who was the worse President, Bush, or Jay Z?

[Casey]

Jay had a lot less to do with Rihanna than most think, the real brains behind Rihanna are Carl Sturken & Evan Rogers. In fact she is signed to their company, but her releases go through Def Jam as well, similar to Rick Ross' deal.

 

[Rukas]

Jay had a lot less to do with Rihanna than most think, the real brains behind Rihanna are Carl Sturken & Evan Rogers. In fact she is signed to their company, but her releases go through Def Jam as well, similar to Rick Ross' deal.

True, but at least with Rihanna he managed to find a new talent and present it to the world, even if he didnt develop it (most label Presidents dont do that anyway). He hasnt done that with any other rap talent.

 

[Da_Funk]

Ok I really dont want to get into Bush's Presidency that was just a joke to get your attention, but damn Jay sucks at Def Jam.

What the fuck has he done for the label apart from Rihanna? He bought Nas into the flock and released a shitty album from the man (admit it), released his own shitty album while promoting himself into a bigger star than his music warrants right now, and brought out Rihanna, and in the process pissed away everyone elses career on that roster.

I mean, seriously, the biggest news coming out of Def Jam is Jay and Bay's wedding and Nas' upcoming album. Does the label even have a fucking talent development department? Does Jay even listen to new demo tapes?

I agree he didn't do anything "new" per say, however his job as president is to make money for the label and I'm willing to bet he more than succeeded in that.

 

[Confucius87]

Rukas, I don't get what you're saying. You blame Jay for the flop of artists that were already there (Ghostface, Budden, etc.) but yet you won't give Jay the credit of the success of the artists that were already there.

Some of the biggest names in today's Hip-Hop are under Def Jam. As far as majors go, no other label is having the success that Def Jam is. Given the current climate of poor record sales, what did you really expect Jay to do?

 

[kaseem]

i dont think jay messed up def-jam..
cuz every artist he put out did well
all of dem sold....