Meatarians..

[ill-matic]

I will as it does not contain pus and therefore does not disgust me. It also does not contain animal hormones. It also will not give me osteoporosis.

lol, alright dude, you don't have to be so self-righteous about this shit. respect someone else's choice.

 

[Bobby Sands]

There seems to be something wrong with every food out there anyway.I couldnt give a fuck anymore.I dont really eat fast food.I eat a decent amount of fruit and veg.I do my best.I like to enjoy what i eat.

Militant,you smoke right?You said so in another thread.So whats the point on watching the nutritional information of every food you eat?

I dont think drinking milk or eating meat is going to do as much damage to your body as smoking cigarettes on a regualr basis will do.I dont smoke at all.

But i do respect that you like to eat healthy.

You tell me that this glass of milk im drinking is bad for me but what about that cigarette you are smoking lol.I understand that you like to smoke and would probably prefer to enjoy a short life than have a long miserable one.I feel the same way about eating,although im not addicted to food or anything.I would be unhappy if i had to eat just vegetables and fruit everyday.

 

[Sebastian]

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It makes so sense at all. Dont bother.

 

[ill-matic]

we're arguing about a glass of milk for fucks sake. i mean, what the fuck, it's a glass of milk!

 

[Bobby Sands]

Im not arguing with anyone.I am just making a point.This a good debate we are having here.lol.

 

[ill-matic]

Im not arguing with anyone.I am just making a point.This a good debate we are having here.lol.

lol no i know, but it's such a trivial thing !

 

[Casey]

lol, alright dude, you don't have to be so self-righteous about this shit. respect someone else's choice.

I wasn't entirely serious with my last post. It just disturbs me to a very high level...i mean, come on....PUS! Think about it! lol

There seems to be something wrong with every food out there anyway.I couldnt give a fuck anymore.I dont really eat fast food.I eat a decent amount of fruit and veg.I do my best.I like to enjoy what i eat.

Militant,you smoke right?You said so in another thread.So whats the point on watching the nutritional information of every food you eat?

I dont think drinking milk or eating meat is going to do as much damage to your body as smoking cigarettes on a regualr basis will do.I dont smoke at all.

But i do respect that you like to eat healthy.

You tell me that this glass of milk im drinking is bad for me but what about that cigarette you are smoking lol.I understand that you like to smoke and would probably prefer to enjoy a short life than have a long miserable one.I feel the same way about eating,although im not addicted to food or anything.I would be unhappy if i had to eat just vegetables and fruit everyday.

Actually if you read what Jokerman wrote earlier, consistent intake of blueberries and other fruits of that nature reverse a lot of the effects of smoking and will stop you getting cancer.

Yeah, I smoke. Not much. 1 or 2 cigarettes a day usually. I have no moral obligations against it since nothing had to die in order for me to smoke. I never said it was healthy but i'd still rather inhale some plant-based fumes than drink the pus and fluids of another living creature.

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It makes so sense at all. Doesnt bother.

It makes so sense? So way! The opposite of yes is so!

Not only is your spelling diabolical but so is your grammar. Doesn't bother is not a sentence, neither does it make any sense.

Perhaps you meant to say "It makes no sense. Don't bother".

Remember that for next time. :thumb:

Glockmatic - most of the concerns people have with soya milk seem to negate the fact that it has been the staple ingredient of chinese and japanese diets for hundred of years.

but yes, i am aware of what's been said of soya milk - i don't drink that either, i drink rice milk.

 

[Bobby Sands]

Actually if you read what Jokerman wrote earlier, consistent intake of blueberries and other fruits of that nature reverse a lot of the effects of smoking and will stop you getting cancer

Yes,he said that blueberries can help repair damaged skin cells,but what about the damage smoking does to your lungs?

Yeah, I smoke. Not much. 1 or 2 cigarettes a day usually. I have no moral obligations against it since nothing had to die in order for me to smoke. I never said it was healthy but i'd still rather inhale some plant-based fumes than drink the pus and fluids of another living creature.

Well i would rather eat the meat of an animal than support an industry that causes thousands of deaths each year.

 

[Casey]

Yes,he said that blueberries can help repair damaged skin cells,but what about the damage smoking does to your lungs?

Well i would rather eat the meat of an animal than support an industry that causes thousands of deaths each year.

What about it? I never said it was healthy.

If you eat meat you are directly reponsible for death, no matter what way you look at it.

If you smoke you are not. And not every smoker supports the "industry". What if I told you I grow my own tobacco plants, harvest them and smoke that?

Regardless of that, the tobacco industry does not cause thousands of deaths every year. They do not force anyone to smoke. By your logic, the rope-manufacturing industry causes thousands of deaths per year from people that hang themselves. The knife-making industry causes thousands of deaths via stabbings.

Eating meat means that an animal has been killed so that you can eat it. Nothing has been murdered for me to smoke a cigarette.

Morally it is a far far worse crime to eat meat. Meat is murder.

 

[Rukas]

Rukas, how could you eat no fruit? Not even bananas! But seriously, they have many cancer-fighting properties, esp. dark blue and red ones like blueberries, blackberries, raspberries, etc.

I just dont like eating fruit, it makes me gag, I dont know why, it's the texture and juice, I just cant stand it. I do drink a lot of juices though, so its not the taste. Funny you mention bananas though, that is one fruit that I HATE the taste and smell of...

Oh wait, I do like eating watermelons, strange I know...

 

[Bobby Sands]

Regardless of that, the tobacco industry does not cause thousands of deaths every year. They do not force anyone to smoke. By your logic, the rope-manufacturing industry causes thousands of deaths per year from people that hang themselves. The knife-making industry causes thousands of deaths via stabbings.

Well people dont get addicted to ropes.The tobacco targets people who are weak and have addictive personalities.Im not talking about the guy that likes the odd cigarette now and again,im talking about the chain smoker like my uncle.He gave up smoking ten years ago after having a triple by pass(caused by chain smoking).He took up smoking again recently and if he doesn't give them up again he is going to be in trouble.He wants to give them up again but it is so hard for him because he has an addictive personality.

Eating meat means that an animal has been killed so that you can eat it. Nothing has been murdered for me to smoke a cigarette.

Morally it is a far far worse crime to eat meat. Meat is murder.

Sorry,but i think that is a huge big over reaction?I respect your beliefs.My belief that the purpose of these animals is to provide food for humans.

 

[Casey]

Well people dont get addicted to ropes.The tobacco targets people who are weak and have addictive personalities.Im not talking about the guy that likes the odd cigarette now and again,im talking about the chain smoker like my uncle.He gave up smoking ten years ago after having a triple by pass(caused by chain smoking).He took up smoking again recently and if he doesn't give them up again he is going to be in trouble.He wants to give them up again but it is so hard for him because he has an addictive personality.

Sorry,but i think that is a huge big over reaction?I respect your beliefs.My belief that the purpose of these animals is to provide food for humans.

Tobacco does not target anyone. Who's choice is it to start smoking in the first place? Whether they have addictive personalities, or find it difficult to give up is beside the point, it was their choice in the first place.

It is not an over-reaction, it is the truth. An animal has been killed in order for you to eat meat. That animal did not have a choice in whether it was killed or not. Therefore it is murder.

If you honestly believe that animals are there to provide food for humans then I am sorry. There is no moral basis for this because you naturally assume that because humans are the most intelligent life-form, that makes us more important than anything else?

If one day you got attacked by a wild bear that intended to eat you, would you fight back? Or would you allow yourself to be eaten, because after all, that's the way it is, and the stronger creature must eat the weaker one and that is life.

 

[Sebastian]

If you honestly believe that animals are there to provide food for humans then I am sorry. There is no moral basis for this because you naturally assume that because humans are the most intelligent life-form, that makes us more important than anything else?

Yes, and hes right doing it. We are the most intelligent life-form. You are denying it? We, as in humans, rule the planet.

Where do you draw the line? Basically, a plan is a living organism too. Just like humans and animals. Its "living" in some way or another.

If one day you got attacked by a wild bear that intended to eat you, would you fight back? Or would you allow yourself to be eaten, because after all, that's the way it is, and the stronger creature must eat the weaker one and that is life.

What? Yeah, he will probably fight back and kill the bear with a gun. 1:0 humans.

 

[Bobby Sands]

If the bear did eat me then he wouldnt give a shit about it.He got his meal and he doesnt care for me being killed or not.

If you honestly believe that animals are there to provide food for humans then I am sorry. There is no moral basis for this because you naturally assume that because humans are the most intelligent life-form, that makes us more important than anything else?

I suppose it depends on what you believe.I personally dont feel its morally wrong if i eat a piece of meat.

Tobacco does not target anyone. Who's choice is it to start smoking in the first place? Whether they have addictive personalities, or find it difficult to give up is beside the point, it was their choice in the first place.

Yea he made that choice when he was a 14 year old kid like most other chain smokers.Why should he suffer the rest of his life because of it?I made a choice to smoke when i was 15 but then i decided to stop after a short time.The difference is that i dont have an addictive personality like my uncle.

 

[Chronic]

My belief that the purpose of these animals is to provide food for humans.

Can you explain why? If it's from a religious stand-point no need to go into detail.

 

[stefanwzyga]

Militant im loosing respect for you man. Rice milk? hardly rock and roll . I had you down as some sort of young keith richards, after your veggie rice milk drivel i think your more of a young cliff richards.

It is not an over-reaction, it is the truth. An animal has been killed in order for you to eat meat. That animal did not have a choice in whether it was killed or not. Therefore it is murder.

But you only became a veggie 18 months back, so you were actually eating meat for what 18 years? once a murderer always a murderer.

Meat is murder.

Now your sounding like Morrisey.


Im only playing man, i respect your opinion. But going on a one man veggie rampage really aint gonna achieve anything apart from you loosing out on the finer foods in life.


Militant if you ever just say fuck this veggie shit! just give me a shout an il send you down some quality haggis, fuck il even throw in a few slices of black pudding for you.

 

[Casey]

Yes, and hes right doing it. We are the most intelligent life-form. You are denying it? We, as in humans, rule the planet.

Where do you draw the line? Basically, a plan is a living organism too. Just like humans and animals. Its "living" in some way or another.

What? Yeah, he will probably fight back and kill the bear with a gun. 1:0 humans.

Some people just can't be helped. You completely misunderstand me. I am obviously not denying humans are the most intelligent life-form. I am saying that we have that intelligence for a reason. The reason is so that we make the compassionate choices.

Militant im loosing respect for you man. Rice milk? hardly rock and roll . I had you down as some sort of young keith richards, after your veggie rice milk drivel i think your more of a young cliff richards.

But you only became a veggie 18 months back, so you were actually eating meat for what 18 years? once a murderer always a murderer.

Now your sounding like Morrisey.

Im only playing man, i respect your opinion. But going on a one man veggie rampage really aint gonna achieve anything apart from you loosing out on the finer foods in life.

Militant if you ever just say fuck this veggie shit! just give me a shout an il send you down some quality haggis, fuck il even throw in a few slices of black pudding for you.

stefan.....i know you were joking but you are so far off the mark. theres nothing rock n roll about drinking pus and murdering animals. for the record, keith richards is a moron, cliff richard is a loser.

if you insist on finding legendary rock stars to think of me along the lines of, call me a young john lennon or kurt cobain....both incredible songwriters with strong moral values who were more rock n roll than anyone.

once a murderer, always a murderer.....fair enough if you think that way.....all i can say is i don't agree with the values i was raised on. is it better to realize you are a murderer and stop, or continue to kill?

yeah i was quoting morrissey with the meat is murder thing....classic album to be fair. mozza has a lot of good points on meat actually.

finer foods? nah. even when i ate meat i actually preferred vegetable based dishes anyway.

 

[_carmi]

We are the top of the food chain. It is NORMAL that we eat animals.

personally I don't like vegetables, but if you want to be heathly you need to balance your nutrition between meat and veggies.

 

[tHuG $TyLe]

Man..I eat whatever. I could get hit by a bus tomorrow.

 

[Sebastian]

Where do you draw the line? Basically, a plan is a living organism too. Just like humans and animals. Its "living" in some way or another.

Please comment on this part, Militant.

Man..I eat whatever. I could get hit by a bus tomorrow.

I would like to be the bus driver.