Non-Urban Music Prince vs. Bob Marley vs. The Clash

PRINCE vs. BOB MARLEY vs. THE CLASH

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#1
I've selected 54 of the greatest bands and artists of all time, based on a bunch of lists I found on the Internet. It's not a comprehensive list, but I don't think there can be too many complaints. They've been split into groups of 3, entirely at random.

I thought we'd kick off with an tough little group that I'm sure Militant will be interested in.

PRINCE
Few artists have created a body of work as rich and varied as Prince. During the '80s, he emerged as one of the most singular talents of the rock & roll era, capable of seamlessly tying together pop, funk, folk, and rock. Not only did he release a series of groundbreaking albums; he toured frequently, produced albums and wrote songs for many other artists, and recorded hundreds of songs that still lie unreleased in his vaults. With each album he released, Prince has shown remarkable stylistic growth and musical diversity, constantly experimenting with different sounds, textures, and genres. Occasionally, his music can be maddeningly inconsistent because of this eclecticism, but his experiments frequently succeed; no other contemporary artist can blend so many diverse styles into a cohesive whole.

BOB MARLEY
Reggae's most transcendent and iconic figure, Bob Marley was the first Jamaican artist to achieve international superstardom, in the process introducing the music of his native island nation to the far-flung corners of the globe. Marley's music gave voice to the day-to-day struggles of the Jamaican experience, vividly capturing not only the plight of the country's impoverished and oppressed but also the devout spirituality that remains their source of strength. His songs of faith, devotion, and revolution created a legacy that continues to live on not only through the music of his extended family but also through generations of artists the world over touched by his genius.

THE CLASH
The Sex Pistols may have been the first British punk rock band, but the Clash were the definitive British punk rockers. Where the Pistols were nihilistic, the Clash were fiery and idealistic, charged with righteousness and a leftist political ideology. From the outset, the band was more musically adventurous, expanding its rock & roll with reggae, dub, and rockabilly among other roots musics. Furthermore, they were blessed with two exceptional song-writers in Joe Strummer and Mick Jones, each with a distinctive voice and style. The Clash copped heavily from classic outlaw imagery, positioning themselves as rebels with a cause. As a result, they won a passionately devoted following on both sides of the Atlantic. While they became rock & roll heroes in the U.K., second only to the Jam in terms of popularity, it took the Clash several years to break into the American market, and when they finally did in 1982, they imploded several months later. Though the Clash never became the superstars they always threatened to become, they restored passion and protest to rock & roll. For a while, they really did seem like "the only band that mattered."
 
#4
I, controversially I'm sure, went with The Clash. I'm a rock 'n' roll kind of guy, and I think The Clash are a really underrated punk band. Certainly better than The Sex Pistols.
 
#8
I'd vote but I haven't checked out The Clash. I assume London Calling is their best album?
I'd say so, although Give 'Em Enough Rope is probably just as good, and their self-titled album is a bit more varied.

If you check out London Calling, you should also get these songs:

White Riot
I Fought The Law
Police & Thieves
All The Young Punks (New Boots and Contracts)
 

Casey

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#9
PRINCE
Few artists have created a body of work as rich and varied as Prince. During the '80s, he emerged as one of the most singular talents of the rock & roll era, capable of seamlessly tying together pop, funk, folk, and rock.

BOB MARLEY
Reggae's most transcendent and iconic figure, Bob Marley was the first Jamaican artist to achieve international superstardom,

THE CLASH
The Sex Pistols may have been the first British punk rock band, but the Clash were the definitive British punk rockers.

Prince, for the points stated in bold.

i.e - Prince is immensely diverse. If you like rock, you'll like stuff like "Purple Rain", "Darling Nikki", "Endorphinmachine", "Fury"........if you like pop, you'll like "When Doves Cry", "Raspberry Beret", "Kiss", "1999" etc.

If you like funk, you'll like "Sexy Dancer", "Erotic City", "DMSR", "Housequake" etc, if you're into your slow jams you will like "Adore", "The Most Beautiful Girl In The World", "Scandalous", "Diamonds and Pearls", if you like more acoustic bluesy stuff you'll like "The Ride", "The Truth", "Don't Play Me", etc.

If you like jazz, you'll like "Movie Star", "Calhoun Square", the Madhouse albums , N.E.W.S album or the stuff he did with Miles Davis.....

If you like hiphop, you've got stuff like "Pussy Control", "Face Down", "The Greatest Romance Ever Sold" featuring Eve, "Undisputed" ft. Chuck D, not to mention Shock G's Lovesign remix....


....see my point? Prince is good for 99/100 moods you might be in. Shit, even if you like classical music you could play the ballet opera stuff he composed for his first wife Mayte's dance company.



If you don't like reggae, or you don't particularly feel like listening to at any point, you're not going to play Bob, and if you're not into punk, you ain't gonna listen to The Clash.

Prince covers more of the musical spectrum than probably any other artist on the planet - and he kills a lot of people that only do one of those genres.
 

Casey

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#12
Anyone who is a Tupac fan should vote for Prince, since 'Pac sampled him so much, eg.

To Live & Die in LA
comes from "Do Me, Baby"
Whatz Ya Phone # comes from "777-9311"
Iz It Cool 2 Fuck comes from "Get It Up"
Thugz Get Lonely Too OG comes from "If I Was Your Girlfriend"
Wussup With The Luv comes from "The Ballad of Dorothy Parker"
Pac's Life OG comes from "Pop Life"
Heartz Of Men comes from "Darling Nikki"
 

Casey

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#15
I think a lot of people like Bob Marley because it's cool to like Bob Marley. I think a lot of people like him despite the music, in fact I know people that would say they like Bob and have never heard any of his music. He was a very likeable person.

Whereas Prince has in the past come off as eccentric and strange, not to mention slightly arrogant.

But, if you're talking about musical talent and songwriting ability Prince shits all over Bob, without a shadow of a doubt.

Legend goes that Bob and Prince met in 1980. A mutual friend had invited Bob down to see Prince play in New York, I believe. This was when Prince dressed like this, and supposedly Prince's dress sense offended Bob and stirred up standard Jamaican homophobic feelings in him. He probably thought P was very odd.

LOL. Anyway, despite my preference, I have a great deal of respect for Mr. Marley, not to mention strong family links. (My cousins were the first international artists to be invited to record at Tuff Gong, also when my cousin Apache Indian played at the reggae Japansplash festival, his son who is the same age as me and a good friend of mine, was basically mothered a lot by Rita Marley throughout that tour).
 

Casey

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#17
I don't know. I'm not too familiar with Prince but Marley wrote some great songs. Reggae is very simplistic (or is minimalistic?) which can make it seem like the lyrics and songs are simple.
I grew up in a Jamaican area and my cousin is a famous reggae singer. I've met many of the greats because of that, for example Shaggy used to crash on my cousin's floor, there's a legendary reggae singer by the name of Frankie Paul who's basically like the Stevie Wonder of reggae music, so I'd never dispute the greatness of reggae music, it's one of my favorite styles.

And I'm not denying Bob wrote some amazing songs.

But I'd put Prince as one of the 5 greatest songwriters of all time. His ability to write a classic of almost any style of music is mindblowing, and 90% of all popular r'n'b along since he broke through in the early 80's is directly influenced by him, without a doubt.

In terms of the way Pop, R'n'B, Funk and Soul has sounded since then, Prince is the biggest contributor to that. In terms of the way it looks, Michael is.

Nowadays all of these cats, whether it's Usher, Timberlake, Ne-Yo or whoever, all the way to neo soul cats like D'Angelo and producers like The Neptunes and 7 Aurelius, are trying to have a music sound like Prince and a style image like Michael.
 

Casey

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#20
Well, I can see where this is heading.

It's slightly unfair really - Bob gets a ridiculous amount of respect, some of it deserved, a lot of it by people who don't really know anything about him, but follow the crowd.

I predict that Bob may end up winning this entire thing.
 

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