Technology Android

Pittsey

Knock, Knock...
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I don't see why people would buy a Nexus 4 and then stick a custom rom on it though...

Any Samsung. Sure. But not a G.E phone. Rooting, I understand. But with all custom roms you get a bug or a few. So I'd be sticking to the Android OS.
 

ARon

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I flash custom ROMs because its basically stockbut I have the option to do more if I want. Like the ROM I use has paranoidandroids hybrid settings and I use tablet mode with it so my status bar and nav bar are the same bar along the bottom. Just things like that. I also use Franco's kernel and messed with my display settings so my blacks are a bit deeper and I think the screen looks better. Also flashed something that makes all the sounds louder. Nexus 4 is good as it is but being able to make it how I want is why I use android
 

Pittsey

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I flash custom ROMs because its basically stockbut I have the option to do more if I want. Like the ROM I use has paranoidandroids hybrid settings and I use tablet mode with it so my status bar and nav bar are the same bar along the bottom. Just things like that. I also use Franco's kernel and messed with my display settings so my blacks are a bit deeper and I think the screen looks better. Also flashed something that makes all the sounds louder. Nexus 4 is good as it is but being able to make it how I want is why I use android

And that's fair. But.... all ROMS have bugs. I'll take a bug or 2 if I am using a Samsung phone, as the resource load is still lighter and less buggy than what they give out. But on a vanilla phone. I won't bother messing.
 

dilla

Trumpfan17 aka Coonie aka Dilla aka Tennis Dog
So a stock Android S4. Interesting. And Google TV jumps all the way to 4.2.2? Or something. Gets Chrome update.

Weren't there rumors of KLP to be announced soon? I think I read those about a month ago and still haven't heard anything. Next Nexus update?
 

masta247

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Wait.. so there was no new Android announced (not even a 4.3), no new Nexus 7, no new Nexus 4, no X phone, no nothing! The most disappointing I/O ever. Looks like 4.2 is here to stay for the longest while then.. with all of its issues. It's almost like Google don't really know how to start fixing it, so they're just letting it be.
On a side note it's like paradise for Samsung who already have their phones on 4.2.2, and the rest is soon getting it, and the rest is abandoned. So they can just rest and enjoy their billions from all these S4 devices sold.

Also, the highlight was basically uplifting the S4 to the Nexus status, which makes it even further ahead of every other mobile electronic device on the planet. Great :p

And G+.. really, nobody cares about G+ as a social media website. Nobody uses it, it's just a data/identity collection service for Google.

Eh, it's the first I/O when having a Nexus device is worth fuck-all. And I was looking forward to testing new cool features on my N7. Also, it's the first time ever when being on a 2 year old piece of hardware your software is still up to date, because 4.1 was the last good update, and I think almost all 2 year old phones have it by now.
 

ARon

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I think the hangouts is cool. All access could be as well if it were free. I ain't about to pay for that shit.

I read they're updating Bluetooth so you can actually use the bracelets sofi and Pitts want
 

S O F I

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lol google announces new features to kill the whole damn game, stock jumps to ALL TIME HIGH and masta says it's a disappointing I/O. fuck a phone, they're going for everyone's throat.
 

Pittsey

Knock, Knock...
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Yeah.....

I agree with all of you.

Some nice announcements, google are really moving in a good direction and are far ahead of the curve. They seem to be moving a bit too quick for themselves though, putting a lot of infrastructure in place (such as the education changes to Play) and not having the rest of the plan up to speed. I thought there was a hell of a lot of little announcements made.


But I aslo agree with Masta. It's a shame that we can't lord our nexus status over the more powerful S4 and HTC One owners...!


I also agree with Aron. G+ is looking nicer and nice, and bringing more and more brilliant functionality. But.... If no-one uses it that you know, it doesn't exploit any of the good things it can do.


It was still a good IO for me. Just a shame they didn't mention Android@home.
 

masta247

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lol google announces new features to kill the whole damn game, stock jumps to ALL TIME HIGH and masta says it's a disappointing I/O. fuck a phone, they're going for everyone's throat.
What game though? And what features? They used to announce much more awesome things at previous I/O's. The coolest ones didn't work out.

I don't see the G+ as anything more than a data collection tool, which is Google's main source of income. It's not a social website as it lacks.. social stuff. It doesn't have people. It collects profiles/identities tied with data. It forces you to use it. I know I'll never upload pictures there, unless I'm forced to, which doesn't sound unlikely now. I don't care about G+ over-saturating them and bumping contrast with one click.

I admit that I haven't watched the whole thing, only the second half which was entirely about G+. I've read the rest on news sites and there's not much interesting stuff.
 

Casey

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Google IO had become more of a consumer event, when it's supposed to be a developer conference, so they shifted the focus back. I was more than happy with what was announced this year. But expect there to be a big consumer-based announcement in the coming months regarding Android 5.0, follow ups to the Nexus 7 and 10, etc.

4.3 is coming on June 10th with the white Nexus 4, apparently. But it seems like it will mostly be bug fixes and low energy bluetooth implementation, things like that. They separated the actual core framework from the consumer app update stuff, which is actually a pretty smart way of solving the so called "fragmentation" problem.

I don't see the need for G+ to have people I know. I don't "know" most of the people I follow on Twitter. But we have similar interests. I use G+ in a similar way. It hasn't reached it's full potential yet. But with the merging of YouTube into G+, I see that happening more and more.
 

masta247

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To be frank though, I have friends who are developers who went to SF to see the IO personally and they weren't super impressed as well. Although they have a lot of meetings with people responsible for Google products, many more than usually. It's just that it wasn't so much about unveiling new things, but about people coming together to talk about stuff that's already out there.
 

masta247

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Not much going on here lately. I have kind-of news.

I got myself the Galaxy S3. Why? I picked a great deal - the price dropped because of the S4 and selling my Xperia Arc I only had to pay 100$ extra. To put it in a perspective, it costs me less than the Nexus 4 would. It was also 50% of the price of the S4.. which looks better but is totally not worth the price difference. I though if I'm going to pay 600$ for a phone, it'd have to be something all around amazing, and I got myself something really good enough while waiting for something like that to show up.

The S3 is still a great phone on the inside, still not much behind the new high ends (it doesn't feel like it is at all), but it's a good moment to buy it because of its price and Samsung's support (most of S4's features coming to it soon as well). I'll have to live with the soap-holder design, which looks much better in real life though. Just the S4 makes it look slightly outdated, but not that much since it's a similar design language - you need to hold both next to each other to say the difference is obvious.

All in all, compared even to new flagships, I feel like the S3 only loses in the design department. Other than that it's hard to actually feel the difference - the performance is butter smooth, the camera is better than this year's competing flagships, same with screen and audio. And it's cheap. The one and only thing that feels not on par is the design but really, it does look better in real life - just not up to par with what's inside.
 

ARon

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It's way too easy to get a brand new phone here in the states so you being in a foreign market I applaud your decision. Phones have gotten a lot more powerful but it's really not needed quite yet. Plus you can just flash whatever new android version is out so that's cool. I still think galaxy's are cheap feeling and look shitty but it's cool.
 

masta247

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Thanks. Yeah, now having the S3 I wish the phone looked better. It's not really bothering me much, but the design isn't great. I have a bigger problem with the design language and soap-holder shape than the materials.It looks kind of.. feminine I guess? A little lame, but not terrible.

Thinking about it rationally the fact is, that the S4 doesn't bring anything to the table that the S3 can't do- it's not like the S4 would allow me to do something I need that the S3 doesn't, even the speed difference in real life is not too obvious because the S3's chipset packs enough punch to run everything smoothly.
It's just a tiny bit better at everything that is still great in the S3. It also looks better enough that it makes the S3 look more crap when held next to it. But seriously, the S3 is very fast and the hardware is still very up to date. There's just that mental block that I'm actually buying a phone that is not the latest and greatest, which is weird but I decided it'd be silly to use a 600$ phone just for the sake of having the newest model, just because it feels "cooler".

That led me to this thought - the difference between my old ass Xperia Arc (with a single core 1ghz Scorpion processor) and this S3 is crazy. It's probably a hundred times bigger than the difference between the S3 and S4. The price difference between the Arc and S3 was like 100$, while between S3 and S4 is't like 300$. I guess that thought made me make up my mind and be happy with that decision.
 

Pittsey

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It's way too easy to get a brand new phone here in the states so you being in a foreign market I applaud your decision. Phones have gotten a lot more powerful but it's really not needed quite yet. Plus you can just flash whatever new android version is out so that's cool. I still think galaxy's are cheap feeling and look shitty but it's cool.

Except you get ripped off.

The UK seems to have the most disposable phone market. I could pick up an S4, tomorrow, on a contract with no money up front and paying only £25 a month. They would give me unlimited texts, 600 minutes and 1 gig of data. I don't know of another country that offers high end phones at such a competitive price. iphones aren't as well priced, but Apple doesn't allow the phone operators to discount them.


I don't think the S3 feels cheap. People call my N4 a "brick". I didn't get that with the S3. People also wanted to talk about the S3 when I first got it. But I think they had been brainwashed by the apple-ish marketing employed by Samsung. I could have upgraded and got the S4, But I have had enough of Samsung. They are the new Apple. Selling very little and getting the masses excited. If I was picking up a new phone, I'd get the HTC One that's part of the AOSP. But... I'm going to wait and see what the next nexus device brings. I don't do enough on my phone to warrant an upgrade.
 

THEV1LL4N

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The Moto X phone is suppose to have some kind of sensors in them that sets it apart from all the other phones.

My guess is that they will use these in conjunction with the launch of Android@Home in October. That could be (part of) the huge news expected for the 5th anniversary of Android under Google. I hope it happens. They also claimed that 70% of the manufacturing will be done in Texas, USA.

Gaming and Cloud App-data is another expectation altogether. I hope this means that I will be able to store most of my app data in the cloud and free up local storage on my phone.
 

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