However being able to store data in Ram is what is important because you don't have to load everything from slow flash memory all the time. That's why you need a lot of ram. It's not like technical specifications are just some abstract being, unrelated to user experience. They make the user experience what it is. You can justify the fact that you have a technically inferior device with the fact that you're happy with it. Certainly Apple marketing helps you with that. It doesn't change the fact that most probably you would be happier with a better device.
I guess when you talk about the speed of RAM being lost on a 1Ghz processor was addressing what I said about bus frequency and newer chipsets. But guess what. The iPad2 has a 1,2Ghz processor! Argument invalidated! Nah I kid eheheh, you are right I guess, good point. More RAM equals faster load. There are other factors. The core OS dictates the amount of code needed to achieve a certain function. What I think Apple has nailed with their "closed solution" is that apps seem to run more seamlessly because they are so heavily tied into the OS, which is also what kills the freedom you and Casey enjoy. I don't know why, but it just feels like the iDevices run very smoothly. Never do I experience lag, never do I feel like I'm waiting for an app to start up. That's my overall point with the RAM argument - as long as the user experience is solid, whatever technical mambo jambo lies behind it is irrelevant to me. I'm a techie like you but I don't need the top-end to be satisfied, because I'm not running Garageband on my iPhone. I'm not disagreeing with the technical aspect of your argument, I've just come to a different conclusion based on the same information as you - maybe because people are different
Every Android phone has menu that consists of blocks/icons. You were extremely unlucky with HTC Desire because it uses Sense UI which is probably the most complicated UI available on any Android phone. It's not Android UI, it's Sense UI. Now with Android you can actually just download any "UI" you like, which is known as "Launchers". There are so many of them that you can pick any that suits your liking, if you don't really like the standard Android one.
Fair enough, I did not know this.
Now my rip off argument is, that if a very rich and powerful company takes an already existing user interface and upgrades it to make it even better and easier to use, and then users think that it's inferior to the original Android user interface that means that the original user interface that this company's user interface was based is most probably inferior to Android's user interface. Nevertheless at the very end I pointed out that I think that Android and Iphone have equally easy or hard user interfaces out of the box, and that I think that Samsung's Bada is easier but also kind of similar to Iphone indicating that it's not "oooh Google ftw!" for me. Now the fact is, that Android offers way, way more possibilities at the same time.
Your argument sounds logical, but I think this is one of those things where you can't reason your way to an answer. Instead of assuming that because one UI based on another UI is.... all that shit you said, I just stop trying to reason my way to an answer. iPhonez feels good to me. I can't speculate on an Android clone, the two OSes are built up differently so the core functions in the OS dictates the UI, and maybe, just MAYBE Apple's closed solution includes building the OS around the functionality, where Android is made to be open source and work across several models and platforms. That was what I meant by the closed solution Apple provide. It's like buying branded clothing vs. going to a tailor (silly argument, I know, but try to look at the gist of it).
I will give you that Android has some sexy features though, so my preference has to do with day-to-day tasks and convenience. I like how you can setup the new Android phones to be wireless 3G routers, but it's a feature I would think was nice to have. I can just connect my iPhone to the laptop with a USB and achieve the same. So it has features like that, features I think sound good on paper, but features I don't see myself actively using. So thusly I don't think it's worth it to become accustomed to a new UI. But who knows, if some iPhone killer hits the market around iPhone 5, and its price is competitive, I might try it. I'm not hating, just trying to explain an Apple users point of view to an Android user because I don't take kindly to comparisons with sheep
There's some truth about the "evil marketing, Apple bad" part for me. It became something that I'm subconsciously fighting with. You can obviously see it in my responses but again in case of electronics I think that I'm pretty successful at making unbiased opinions based on facts and relatively fair opinion based on my experience with all devices. I'm all for market of superior products, and that's what guides me in my responses.
But I can see people who use Apple products with little experience with other devices thinking that we are heavily biased. Now while you can certainly tell that neither me nor Casey are positive about Apple devices it's mostly because we know these devices and we know how they compare to others on the market. You will hear very similar things from other people who had experience with Apple and their direct market competition. We even have people on SH who were happy with their Iphones and then made a switch to Android and you can hear their opinions (Pittsey comes to my mind).
Now most Apple users are mostly living in their own world only experiencing their own devices. They are getting a lot of praise for that from Apple and in result other people with similar experience. Apple does everything to support their conviction by their untrue propaganda. The circle closes here. Some internet people who say that Android is better are probably just spreading lies because so many people are happy with Apple and there and even Jobs said this and he has more credibility because he's a head of the company that probably does research and all, and how could they lie?
You seem to recognize the significance of subjectivity vs. objectivity, since you talk about making unbiased decisions. What you are saying is that your subjective opinion is that you subjectively make good objective decisions. It's an oxymoron. A muslim extremist in the company of muslim extremists will hold the same confidence in his own views, and this is a matter of social psychology. Your own confidence in your own subjective opinion is meaningless because you can make mistakes and misunderstand things, just like Apple fanboys do. I totally hear what you are saying, but it's one subjective experience. Just because others had the same experience doesn't make it more right. It just means there are different ways to go in life, and some take the one route while others take a different one. I fail to see how this is a matter of right or wrong, and thusly, fail to see why I as an Apple user should let go of all the thoughts and experiences I have about the iPhone and just try something different. With respects to your sheep analogy, that's what sheep do. Shit that makes no sense, because someone told them to.
So I understand that you don't understand people who say that Android is so superior. It's a normal reaction from people who only use their Iphone and are relatively happy with it. After switching to a good Android device you would probably understand too, and then after voicing your opinion most Iphone users probably wouldn't really be convinced by your arguments too, and you would sound a little like an Iphone hater to them. Because they also live in their happy Iphone world bombed by information that it's the best thing out there.
I'll be really clear about this. It's not that I don't understand, it's that I understand very well. The difference between me and an "Android fanboy" to re-coin your term, is that I don't have a principal problem with the company you support that clouds my judgment. My judgment is based purely on my own experience and emotions, while your seems to be tainted by the hatred you have for Apple, their business model, and their decisions. You say that you are aware of this and subconsciously try to fight it. When you say that, that just confirms that it's partially true, which is a point you guys don't seem to understand.
The Apple side of the war consists of users happy with their products, unwilling to use a superior product when they have no need for it. I don't spread the Apple message, I don't force my opinion about the iPhone onto Android users, I simply enjoy the phone, I find it easy to use, I don't care otherwise, and that's the end of the story.
The Android side of the war consists of rebellious techies on the frontline of the technology wave who, due to their strong interest in technology, insist on using high end products that are top of the line. You know that your product is less popular, and your way of addressing this is to endlessly compare it to the more popular product. You talk about the features and functionality in a static way, you neglect to specify how it positively improves your experience - and more importantly, your day.
Does all the power that comes in an Android device actually produce increased convenience for you? Do you actively use all those features that Android has and the iPhone doesn't? If yes, I guess, just like you think Apple fanboys don't understand why an Android user likes Android, Android fanboys just don't understand why an iPhone user enjoys an iPhone. It's because your own subjective experience doesn't ring true to them.
I will compare it to how the nerds look at the popular jocks and deduce why they are lesser human beings - something that ultimately comes down to being jealous and wanting to shine in the limelight and have all the ladies and the parties. I'm not saying you are jealous of Apple, I'm saying your argument holds as much significance for me as the nerd's arguments do to the jocks - They don't care because they are fucking balling.
