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Seriously, that system is very wrong and totally dumbs down the story. Especially compared to very interesting dialogues in Dragon Age 1.
You can just pick the action from the top and be sure that it'll be the "oh so awesome hero response".
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Then the whole demo is chronologically chopped and screwed. Contains no integrity. They ruined some spells and the battle system, characters are not as interesting as in DA1 or Mass Effect series. I'm not impressed.
You can just pick the action from the top and be sure that it'll be the "oh so awesome hero response".
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Then the whole demo is chronologically chopped and screwed. Contains no integrity. They ruined some spells and the battle system, characters are not as interesting as in DA1 or Mass Effect series. I'm not impressed.
I''m not going to come up with answers on your level but that's pretty much what I think about you.
I said what I think about the demo but if you want to get technical it shows most of game's gameplay mechanics. As far as I know most people feel similar way about things that I criticised as there are already numerous topics on many gaming forums.
I really don't get your aggression.
I said what I think about the demo but if you want to get technical it shows most of game's gameplay mechanics. As far as I know most people feel similar way about things that I criticised as there are already numerous topics on many gaming forums.
I really don't get your aggression.
Have you tried the demo? 
I passed it several times already and I have mixed feelings and that's still really positive compared to most Dragon Age fans on bioware boards and DA wikia.
I'm also going to pick this up just because I loved the first Dragon Age. I just pointed out that I think that they dumbed down the game compared to the first one. The dialogue choice is ridiculous. It was ridiculed in Mass Effect and now they brought it to Dragon Age which originally had amazing dialogues. Now it's just a matter of picking the same option over and over to build a specific type of character, without even knowing what it really is.
I passed it several times already and I have mixed feelings and that's still really positive compared to most Dragon Age fans on bioware boards and DA wikia.I'm also going to pick this up just because I loved the first Dragon Age. I just pointed out that I think that they dumbed down the game compared to the first one. The dialogue choice is ridiculous. It was ridiculed in Mass Effect and now they brought it to Dragon Age which originally had amazing dialogues. Now it's just a matter of picking the same option over and over to build a specific type of character, without even knowing what it really is.
Nope, didn't try it out. Didn't want to spoil anything. lol. I've overheard some of the issues with the dialogue system, but I'm paying no attention. I loved the first game enough that I even bought it (I never buy games, I crack the shit out of everything, minus predominantly multiplayer games like Battlefield) lol. So, that's pretty much leading me to buy the 2nd one. =-)
I feel like you grew up in 1902 and are trying to impose your views onto 2011. Everytime something new comes out, whether it be music, movies, or games, you have everything negative to say, and nothing positive.
As far as I know, most people who play games are noobs, rendering their opinions worthless, which is why I don't listen to them. I fail to see how they've dumbed dragon age down, if they're giving your character a voice what do you expect them to do? Have a topic sentence or a paragraph for each option? Figure it out. And again as for dumbing game play down? How could they do that? Dragon age 1 was dumbe down to the max.
Again, refer to my comment on what happens when you give the character a voice. I don't understand why you feel it is dumbed down. You have to be as dumb as a sack of bricks to not realise whether you were picking the bully option, the good guy option, the flirt option etc. in the first dragon age. How is it any different having a little symbol there? Again, the dialogue of OTHER characters was amazing in dragon age 1, your characters dialogue however, was piss poor, because, oh I don't know? Wait i do, THERE WAS NONE.
As far as I know, most people who play games are noobs, rendering their opinions worthless, which is why I don't listen to them. I fail to see how they've dumbed dragon age down, if they're giving your character a voice what do you expect them to do? Have a topic sentence or a paragraph for each option? Figure it out. And again as for dumbing game play down? How could they do that? Dragon age 1 was dumbe down to the max.
Have you tried the demo? I passed it several times already and I have mixed feelings and that's still really positive compared to most Dragon Age fans on bioware boards and DA wikia.
I'm also going to pick this up just because I loved the first Dragon Age. I just pointed out that I think that they dumbed down the game compared to the first one. The dialogue choice is ridiculous. It was ridiculed in Mass Effect and now they brought it to Dragon Age which originally had amazing dialogues. Now it's just a matter of picking the same option over and over to build a specific type of character, without even knowing what it really is.
I passed it several times already and I have mixed feelings and that's still really positive compared to most Dragon Age fans on bioware boards and DA wikia.I'm also going to pick this up just because I loved the first Dragon Age. I just pointed out that I think that they dumbed down the game compared to the first one. The dialogue choice is ridiculous. It was ridiculed in Mass Effect and now they brought it to Dragon Age which originally had amazing dialogues. Now it's just a matter of picking the same option over and over to build a specific type of character, without even knowing what it really is.
I do like Dragon Age series. I liked the first game and yes, I have mixed feelings about the latter one.
I listen to a lot of new music and watch a lot of new movies. Actually I think that the last few years were great for music, especially hip-hop despite the fact that most people bitch about how hip-hop is dead. I rarely find opportunities to discuss that music here as most people here don't really dig further into hip-hop anymore. I complain about music/artists that I find low, yes. And it often bothers me when people are satisfied with less. Instead of criticizing people for picking them I criticize these choices, maybe that's why I give a negative impression.
If it comes to me being bitter about movies - I don't really recall. Perhaps the movies and music that I see discussed are just low to me if you see me criticizing them. Also it might be that I like something yet I don't bother saying "ooh awesome" but instead, I point out what I don't like about it.
I think that most noobs playing games don't go to their dedicated forums and make thousands of posts. I think that internet forums and gaming websites (at least those that I visit) are dominated by people who are die-hard fans and know everything about that game. These people criticize DA2 the most btw.
Did you play that demo after all? DA2 has dialogues which you can actually just skip by choosing the same option without even reading what it says - that's the problem. Actually reading it wouldn't change anything as it's often something else than what your character actually says, so you have to pick an option to find out what it really means.
In Dragon Age 1 you had to actually read what you're about to say and you knew what you are going to say. What you did not know was the real outcome. There was no "bully", "do-gooder" "pick-this-if-you-don't-want-any-bad-outcome" option like it is in DA2. Many dialogues had fascinating, unpredictable outcomes and there were rarely extreme options. Usually it was something in between and sometimes you actually had to think for a second about which dialogue option to pick, sometimes you had to be careful as every character in the game was different and could react differently to whatever you were going to say.
I think that dialogues in Dragon Age 1 were very good. It was one of my favorite elements of that game, something that really hooked me to it because before that, frankly I didn't like fantasy RPG games at all.
DA2 spoils that all by introducing a "click here for good/bad/neutral outcome" option. It's literally that bad.
Dialogues feel more like watching an interactive movie. Now I love Mass Effect but I was amongst those who couldn't understand why Bioware decided to use the conversation wheel. In DA2 in my option it's even worse.
I can clearly see this game being aimed at people who don't really want to read dialogues, those who just want a "spectacular" fight.
At all times the game makes that clear - by changing the dialogue system, fighting system, story etc.
That's why I think that this game is dumbed down and that's why I'm criticizing it. It seems way less ambitious, feels like they took away what I enjoyed about Dragon Age the most to make it appeal to a wider audience.
I listen to a lot of new music and watch a lot of new movies. Actually I think that the last few years were great for music, especially hip-hop despite the fact that most people bitch about how hip-hop is dead. I rarely find opportunities to discuss that music here as most people here don't really dig further into hip-hop anymore. I complain about music/artists that I find low, yes. And it often bothers me when people are satisfied with less. Instead of criticizing people for picking them I criticize these choices, maybe that's why I give a negative impression.
If it comes to me being bitter about movies - I don't really recall. Perhaps the movies and music that I see discussed are just low to me if you see me criticizing them. Also it might be that I like something yet I don't bother saying "ooh awesome" but instead, I point out what I don't like about it.
I think that most noobs playing games don't go to their dedicated forums and make thousands of posts. I think that internet forums and gaming websites (at least those that I visit) are dominated by people who are die-hard fans and know everything about that game. These people criticize DA2 the most btw.
Did you play that demo after all? DA2 has dialogues which you can actually just skip by choosing the same option without even reading what it says - that's the problem. Actually reading it wouldn't change anything as it's often something else than what your character actually says, so you have to pick an option to find out what it really means.
In Dragon Age 1 you had to actually read what you're about to say and you knew what you are going to say. What you did not know was the real outcome. There was no "bully", "do-gooder" "pick-this-if-you-don't-want-any-bad-outcome" option like it is in DA2. Many dialogues had fascinating, unpredictable outcomes and there were rarely extreme options. Usually it was something in between and sometimes you actually had to think for a second about which dialogue option to pick, sometimes you had to be careful as every character in the game was different and could react differently to whatever you were going to say.
I think that dialogues in Dragon Age 1 were very good. It was one of my favorite elements of that game, something that really hooked me to it because before that, frankly I didn't like fantasy RPG games at all.
DA2 spoils that all by introducing a "click here for good/bad/neutral outcome" option. It's literally that bad.
Dialogues feel more like watching an interactive movie. Now I love Mass Effect but I was amongst those who couldn't understand why Bioware decided to use the conversation wheel. In DA2 in my option it's even worse.
I can clearly see this game being aimed at people who don't really want to read dialogues, those who just want a "spectacular" fight.
At all times the game makes that clear - by changing the dialogue system, fighting system, story etc.
That's why I think that this game is dumbed down and that's why I'm criticizing it. It seems way less ambitious, feels like they took away what I enjoyed about Dragon Age the most to make it appeal to a wider audience.
This is where I tend to disagree. I played world of warcraft, alot. And other mmos before it, alot. Those games had forums that blow anything consoles have away, and while the people there were die hard fans, they all sucked dick at the game except for the 10% who had a clue. An example, I remember when the game first came out people were saying it takes 75 hours to beat. That right there says everything.
I think what you're not (and others) taking into consideration is that you're not playing in a world where you control the outcome. You are playing through a set, decade long story this time. Therefore no matter what dialogue option you choose the end result will sometimes be the same, the story HAS to have some kind've homogeneity to it.
Ps you have to be kidding about the bully, flirt, good guy, etc. options not being obvious in the first one. I mean, maybe its because english is my native language but really, they were obvious.
I think what you're not (and others) taking into consideration is that you're not playing in a world where you control the outcome. You are playing through a set, decade long story this time. Therefore no matter what dialogue option you choose the end result will sometimes be the same, the story HAS to have some kind've homogeneity to it.
Ps you have to be kidding about the bully, flirt, good guy, etc. options not being obvious in the first one. I mean, maybe its because english is my native language but really, they were obvious.
Yeah the reviews average at a bit below 80%. Like I thought, most reviewers point out that it's not a bad game but is not the masterpiece that DA1 was. It definitely is that popular because of the hype, that it is a new Dragon Age after all.
http://www.gamespot.com/xbox360/rpg/dragon-age-2/index.html?tag=footer;link
http://worthplaying.com/article/2011/3/11/reviews/80313/
This is pretty harsh but imo a bit true:
yeah and it's not the only review that concludes it that way. See here for all reviews:
http://www.gamerankings.com/xbox360/988966-dragon-age-ii/index.html
http://www.gamespot.com/xbox360/rpg/dragon-age-2/index.html?tag=footer;link
http://worthplaying.com/article/2011/3/11/reviews/80313/
This is pretty harsh but imo a bit true:
yeah and it's not the only review that concludes it that way. See here for all reviews:
http://www.gamerankings.com/xbox360/988966-dragon-age-ii/index.html
So, I finished downloading it some time ago. I chose to play a bit, test it out, then I realized I had burnt 2 hrs. lol 
That being said, the game is great fun. No real complaints as of yet. The new combat system is fun, the combat animations are great as well. Very fluid. I picked a Rogue, and they rape faces.
That being said, I might not go back to it for some time now as I have some school work to deal with, but as of now - this game is great fun.
Oh, I like the story up to now as well.
That being said, the game is great fun. No real complaints as of yet. The new combat system is fun, the combat animations are great as well. Very fluid. I picked a Rogue, and they rape faces.
That being said, I might not go back to it for some time now as I have some school work to deal with, but as of now - this game is great fun.
Oh, I like the story up to now as well.
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