#80 Jerry Rice said:
just wondering do any of u ppl in england know who gilardino is? i mean seriously if this guy played for any big club hed lead europe in scoring with ease playing with parma look what hes doing an what he did last yr.......
Heard of him, watched him & Parma are a big team.
Just in financial trouble like every other Italian club.
kiss of death said:
all those players named are retired from international play except henry. i hope france does qualify. they been playing so shit they havn't even won a game at home yet. they really need zidane 2 come back and help them
I had forgotten about Zidane - but my man already pointed that put to me - while I was aware Thuram & Lizarazu are retired from international football, hence the 'too long in the tooth' comment.
beReal said:
ok, if u ask german football fans, the great majority would answer Ballack is better/effective/more important than Moller ever was (in the national team)
I already accepted that Ballack is a better overrall player than Moller & obviously Ballack's more important - he's one of the few class players in an awful German team. You yourself know how good the players surrounding Moller were.
And for effectiveness, well I would say that Moller is infinetly more gifted than Ballack in a creative sense while the same could be said for Ballack's defensive ability as opposed to Moller's. That said, Ballack is also creative but cannot be fully effective if he's being asked to defend & attack - although he doesn't do badly, & once again, this is another reason for his importance.
beReal said:
ok, i should have asked in a different way. not only which team is better (strcitly player-wise)..also keep in mind what these teams achieved in the last great tournaments.
That wasn't just player-wise, acheivements also played a part.
Brazil continue to do well in all competitions - even when bribery dictates that the team should include players who are far below the quality Brazil actually have at their disposal.
Italy were cheated in the World Cup, & look very strong - both on paper, & on the pitch.
Argentina have been underachieving of late but have players that can change that if they bother to turn up.
England are also underachievers & have far better players than Germany.
Czech Republic continue to do well, but obviously let themselves down at the final hurdle at Euro 2004. They are still, IMO, underachievers. They have a great team too.
Germany overachieved at the last World Cup & have a pretty average team, very poor in comparison to German teams of the past.
And jsut to round it off, if I had been basing my selections strictly on players, I would've chosen the Dutch too. I had actually thought of them but due to their underachieving - & their rivalry with Germany - I thought it best that I don't mention them.
, wont go far, last 16 i reckon.
