Discuss The Rose Vol 2 (I Only Follow My Voice Inside) Here
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Cool, I'll have to cop that next week, I really enjoyed the first one, so hopefully this will be just as good
because of the song number 1 spot, im not hating i liked him back when he put out back for the very first time, but on his other CD's all the beats were lame, and hes just gay now. i mean look at number one spot its a terrible song. he had fuckin gold hair, sure hes succesful in his category but he has no buisness being i na 2pac song.
Lil Jm said:
Well, don't bust that nut yet caus the track is wack. Not even the lyrics of pac can fix this, the beat is alright but not what it's supposed to be to deliver the message. Bone thugs failed on this one imo.
I hope the rest is better :thumb:
what a disappointment..I think Afeni should have better invited Eminem 2 get wild with this release, and not spoil LTTG...Anyway, it will do for the collection..
GhostOfRazgriz said:
Thats because he's been there and done that, nows he's having a little fun with a song and he turns gay? Man, thats just dumb. I think he belongs there just fine. Now I understand that his manager is pac's cousin n all but none the less, its about the message of the song and he should do fine with it.
while this cd is more hip hop-py than the last one, it's still not something i'd play on a regular. in no way does it substitute hearing pac himself, but it's an interesting release regardless. it's a decent chill out cd, and the production is relatively varied and interesting.
initial impressions:
1. intro - kind of gay. some nobody insinuating no one is riding for pac anymore.
2. bone thugs track. pretty fucking nice. sounds like a track they'd have normally done. high energy.
3. celina. r&b track. it's ok, she doesn't try very hard to rhyme, but if you're not paying attention to that it's decent.
4. talib. dope as expected (if you like blackstarr shit). makes you realize that in many ways pac's old poetry was a look ahead at what the modern conscious heads (mos def, common, roots, etc) would be on. production almost sounds ghostface ironman-ish. he touches on the unsolved murder, etc... biggie doesn't get a "still here" shoutout
5. luda. spoken word recital of pac's poetry, followed by luda's impressions of 2pac and his poetry. this track feels like rose 1, and to be honest, i really don;t need luda talking to me abou tlife lessons. we could have cut it at 1:30 when pac's poem was over instead of luda blathering on trying to get deep on our asses.
6. lyfe. when i saw lyfe win on apollo for like five weeks in a row i knew he'd make it in the industry. hot track. maybe even better than the bone thugs song. for those who don't know lyfe, he's kind of a bluesy d'angello kind of singer.
7. bleek. not a fan of bleek, and putting someone with rockafella ties on this is a little questionable, but we live in times like that. it's a shame that pac's only vocals on this release are from smile, a song that we have all heard remixed to hell and back for over half a decade. bleek does well on this. i've heard that this will be the single track for this release, which makes sense.
8. inlawz. sounds like stormy is reciting the poem first here (i wouldn't know because the outlawz are fags and i don't listen to their shit). the production is pretty good, but the track is a good reminder that the outlawz' paled in comparison to pac. just like most pac/lawz collabos, you're stuck looking for a pac verse amongst the shit that is the outlawz, but this time you're left hanging.
9. jamal. not sure who this guy is offhand, but it's a decent track. again, recited and not performed, but he doesn't try to hammer the meaning of the poem over our heads like luda did.
10. yoyo. this would be a wiser single release in my opinion. high energy production, cool hooks, and yoyo's back. this is a very good track that pac would have been proud of. she discusses her impressions of meeting and befriending pac at the end of the song.
11. boot camp. ok we got boot camp on a release. now let's do one nation, eh? upbeat, b.k. sounding production. sounds like something they'd have done with pac. a pac verse on this track would have been worth paying $10 more on the cd.
12. impact kids. never heard of these guys, but it's a nice track. slow r&b track. these guys (and one girl) have pretty nice voices. a solid rap verse would have made the song for me. this track should have been placed earlier on the tracklist.
13. shock. candyman187 was supposed to be on this track from what i heard, so i'm not sure what happened there. there are some voice overs from money b and possibly candyman (these people here need to stfu so i can hear for sure). shock never actually speaks on this song (it's all a male r&b singer) so i'm assuming he produced it.
14. dead prez. instrumental sounds a bit like wu-wear. slightly repetitive vocals, but it's pretty good overall.
15. amber and morgan of pacskids. again, no clue who clue who these people are, but i can only assume it's a tasf related group. the instrumental uses some hail mary-esque sitar riffs, and the group is along the lines of floetry - half singing, half spoken delivery. pretty good song overall. it will be interesting to see if more tasf related projects are in store for the future. when the track ends, the cd ends, and you're left wanting some sort of closure. they really should have put even 10 seconds of pac speaking in there to finish this up. ending a conceptually deep album with a snare hit is pretty weak.
i would have liked to see even more artists who were more connected to pac on this project, or even those who had expressed interest in working with him. tq would have been nice, or even use this as an opportunity to get those artists who were edited out of releases to get back onto a project, since they bumped shoulders and breathed the same air as pac. spice, richie, 40, etc... i think we would have gotten a little more of an elevated interpretation of the words than what seems like outsiders looking in. ho hum. it could have been better, but i'd still say that this is a much better project than rose 1 and will appeal to a greater market.
initial impressions:
1. intro - kind of gay. some nobody insinuating no one is riding for pac anymore.
2. bone thugs track. pretty fucking nice. sounds like a track they'd have normally done. high energy.
3. celina. r&b track. it's ok, she doesn't try very hard to rhyme, but if you're not paying attention to that it's decent.
4. talib. dope as expected (if you like blackstarr shit). makes you realize that in many ways pac's old poetry was a look ahead at what the modern conscious heads (mos def, common, roots, etc) would be on. production almost sounds ghostface ironman-ish. he touches on the unsolved murder, etc... biggie doesn't get a "still here" shoutout
5. luda. spoken word recital of pac's poetry, followed by luda's impressions of 2pac and his poetry. this track feels like rose 1, and to be honest, i really don;t need luda talking to me abou tlife lessons. we could have cut it at 1:30 when pac's poem was over instead of luda blathering on trying to get deep on our asses.
6. lyfe. when i saw lyfe win on apollo for like five weeks in a row i knew he'd make it in the industry. hot track. maybe even better than the bone thugs song. for those who don't know lyfe, he's kind of a bluesy d'angello kind of singer.
7. bleek. not a fan of bleek, and putting someone with rockafella ties on this is a little questionable, but we live in times like that. it's a shame that pac's only vocals on this release are from smile, a song that we have all heard remixed to hell and back for over half a decade. bleek does well on this. i've heard that this will be the single track for this release, which makes sense.
8. inlawz. sounds like stormy is reciting the poem first here (i wouldn't know because the outlawz are fags and i don't listen to their shit). the production is pretty good, but the track is a good reminder that the outlawz' paled in comparison to pac. just like most pac/lawz collabos, you're stuck looking for a pac verse amongst the shit that is the outlawz, but this time you're left hanging.
9. jamal. not sure who this guy is offhand, but it's a decent track. again, recited and not performed, but he doesn't try to hammer the meaning of the poem over our heads like luda did.
10. yoyo. this would be a wiser single release in my opinion. high energy production, cool hooks, and yoyo's back. this is a very good track that pac would have been proud of. she discusses her impressions of meeting and befriending pac at the end of the song.
11. boot camp. ok we got boot camp on a release. now let's do one nation, eh? upbeat, b.k. sounding production. sounds like something they'd have done with pac. a pac verse on this track would have been worth paying $10 more on the cd.
12. impact kids. never heard of these guys, but it's a nice track. slow r&b track. these guys (and one girl) have pretty nice voices. a solid rap verse would have made the song for me. this track should have been placed earlier on the tracklist.
13. shock. candyman187 was supposed to be on this track from what i heard, so i'm not sure what happened there. there are some voice overs from money b and possibly candyman (these people here need to stfu so i can hear for sure). shock never actually speaks on this song (it's all a male r&b singer) so i'm assuming he produced it.
14. dead prez. instrumental sounds a bit like wu-wear. slightly repetitive vocals, but it's pretty good overall.
15. amber and morgan of pacskids. again, no clue who clue who these people are, but i can only assume it's a tasf related group. the instrumental uses some hail mary-esque sitar riffs, and the group is along the lines of floetry - half singing, half spoken delivery. pretty good song overall. it will be interesting to see if more tasf related projects are in store for the future. when the track ends, the cd ends, and you're left wanting some sort of closure. they really should have put even 10 seconds of pac speaking in there to finish this up. ending a conceptually deep album with a snare hit is pretty weak.
i would have liked to see even more artists who were more connected to pac on this project, or even those who had expressed interest in working with him. tq would have been nice, or even use this as an opportunity to get those artists who were edited out of releases to get back onto a project, since they bumped shoulders and breathed the same air as pac. spice, richie, 40, etc... i think we would have gotten a little more of an elevated interpretation of the words than what seems like outsiders looking in. ho hum. it could have been better, but i'd still say that this is a much better project than rose 1 and will appeal to a greater market.
Dante said:
damn, yeah he recorded that track with shock, it's a shame they take him off and let those weak outlawz do a song
So how big are the odds that I can buy this in Dutch record stores? Considering that they generally suck.
they took Candyman off the track And 2Morrow, plus Shock G was singin the hook, they took all that shit off.. in the first few second you hear Candyman saying ''Whaddup Pac'' they diddn't took that off aswell as him sayin SCARED OF BEIN AN OUTKAST
cheap ass release man.. and them lawz got a song.. shits fucked
cheap ass release man.. and them lawz got a song.. shits fucked
DutchMakaveli said:
uhm.. i guess if you want it you gotta import it.. it ain't in Free Record Shop or anything like that..
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