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Well, it depends on how you look at it. My Nexus S (even with a broken screen) is still great to me. But I didn't see the Galaxy Nexus as a must have upgrade, so I can agree on that. I just don't want to bother with HTC's bullshit add-on software and I have no interest in rooting my phone to get rid of it. I'd rather stick with vanilla android. I feel like every December, when a new Nexus phone comes out, it competes relativelly well with the other android phones on the market for the next two years. Other phones might have a slightly better camera or more processing power, but it's not noticeable enough to warrant a change, especially since the design is rarely much better. My Nexus S is still sexier than most phones out there.
 

masta247

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Well, your phone was successful and it was an all around good phone that (along with the Galaxy S, which was slightly inferior) did not even have a decent competitor for months. The Galaxy Nexus has its issues and it's not anywhere as good as your phone was at its time. It's not as complete as a phone. There are issues with its battery, the camera isn't great etc. etc, not to even mention that there are already similar phones and better phones coming up.

I agree about bloatware and stuff, the new Sense UI is said to be better in this aspect. Sony's UI is also neat. But there's a point to go for Vanilla Android and I think it's the best reason to go for Galaxy Nexus. Because hardware-wise it's not really a great phone. Even the Galaxy S2 is better.
 

Flipmo

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The HTC One X is getting some serious early praise. For the built, the look, speed, even Sense 4.0 being cleaned up from bloat and simplified, etc.

Well see what the final reviews say though
 

ARon

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The process they use to do the aluminium on the one x is the same process they use on satellites, cool. Not to beat it to the ground but everytime I read about the build quality Samsung's cheap plastic gets dissed lol.

One x in the US won't be using the tegra 3 either, s4 instead. But its on att, f that
 

masta247

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Funny things is that most reviewers don't seem to acknowledge that One S is a better phone, or at the very least as good as One X. Virtually the same thing but running a faster processor (reviewers say that it's not as interesting just because it's dual core, but they fail to mention that it's faster because it's a 28nm Krait paired with Adreno 225 and a slightly lower screen resolution all together granting significiantly better performance), it's slimmer and comes with a Super Amoled screen (4'3 inch so a bit smaller, but imho it's a better size thn 4'7). Apart from that both are virtually the same - including build material, camera, audio and Dropbox premium.

I hope the camera on them will be decent at last. Beats audio is crap but oh well, it's the one flaw I could live with if the One S will be priced right. I might consider exchanging my Arc for that phone, though I still think my Arc is a bit more stylish.

The way I see it One X is like the Galaxy Nexus and it isn't any better than it, while the One S is like the Galaxy S2, but it's better than that (thanks to its processor which is almost twice as fast, slightly higher screen resolution and slimmer aluminum/ceramic body).
 

ARon

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They're going to be using the same exact processor in the US at least. People are saying the super LCD 2 is better than any amoled they've seen. HTC says this is the best camera theyve put on any phone. Considering most blogs thought the mt4g slide had one of if not the best camera on any phone that says a lot. F2.0, 8mp, 1080p 30fps recording, double shutters so you can record and snap a pic at the same time. 28 mm lens. The camera sounds awesome.

Shittiest thing about the phone is no removeable battery and no sd card. The sd card will probably be a growing trend considering where storage is headed, but an 1800 size battery that's not removeable sucks.
 

masta247

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They're going to be using the same exact processor in the US at least. People are saying the super LCD 2 is better than any amoled they've seen. HTC says this is the best camera theyve put on any phone. Considering most blogs thought the mt4g slide had one of if not the best camera on any phone that says a lot. F2.0, 8mp, 1080p 30fps recording, double shutters so you can record and snap a pic at the same time. 28 mm lens. The camera sounds awesome.

Shittiest thing about the phone is no removeable battery and no sd card. The sd card will probably be a growing trend considering where storage is headed, but an 1800 size battery that's not removeable sucks.
Well, it's a casual LG IPS with a thinner coating inside of One X and it's not comparable to Amoled. As a matter of fact no LCD will ever be comparable to any Amoled screen because of how they're built. It's like some review sites claiming that Xperia Arc's LCD was better than Galaxy S2's Amoled. Bullcrap, I had a Super Amoled screen and I own an Xperia Arc and there's just no comparison, despite the fact that Arc has one of the best LCDs (apparently). It's a completely different technology and Amoled is just better with almost everything, there are things that LCD will just not catch up with because of how it works.
The camera on One X is the same as on One S, I hope it'll be good, the MT4G phone was US only I think and I'm not sure about its camera.
Which processor are they going to get in the US? The global version of One S is using the S4, and One X the slower Tegra 3.

I was also thinking about no sd card and no removable battery since it's what HTC and Sony are doing, along with possibly some other manufacturers too. I think that with 16gig of on board storage I just wouldn't need SD cards. If it comes to battery I don't know. I never needed to replace my battery but I would like that option, if only for the sake of being able to completely shut down my phone that way. But it enables manufacturers to use bigger batteries (1650mAh on One S which is one of the slimmest phones around) so mixed feelings again.
 

masta247

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A 41 megapixel camera on a new Nokia phone:

http://www.gsmarena.com/nokia_808_pureview_video_and_camera_samples-news-3905.php

Now I know this is a marketing gimmick and that these photos load for 10 seconds and each takes almost 15 meg but if a new Sony Android has that kind of a camera - count me in.
Just for the sake of crops and amount of detail even in downsized photos.

Despite all those cool gimmicks and million dollar design teams, billion dollar budgets Nokia still fail to release a good phone.
 

Pittsey

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Well, your phone was successful and it was an all around good phone that (along with the Galaxy S, which was slightly inferior) did not even have a decent competitor for months. The Galaxy Nexus has its issues and it's not anywhere as good as your phone was at its time. It's not as complete as a phone. There are issues with its battery, the camera isn't great etc. etc, not to even mention that there are already similar phones and better phones coming up.

I agree about bloatware and stuff, the new Sense UI is said to be better in this aspect. Sony's UI is also neat. But there's a point to go for Vanilla Android and I think it's the best reason to go for Galaxy Nexus. Because hardware-wise it's not really a great phone. Even the Galaxy S2 is better.
My friend who has a sensation, loves Sense 4.0. Says it is a huge upgrade. He is also getting 4 x battery life on ICS as he was on GB. Hopefully an official Rom would be better.

The One Series of phone was interesting to me. But if the battery isn't removable, and there's no external sd card.... Then I am out. If I wanted to be restricted, I'd buy an iphone.
 

masta247

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The One Series of phone was interesting to me. But if the battery isn't removable, and there's no external sd card.... Then I am out. If I wanted to be restricted, I'd buy an iphone.
On another hand that's what the Galaxy Nexus does too. I don't remember why but there was something about vanilla ICS that didn't work well with SD cards and manufacturers are encouraged to drop the sd card slot and pack more internal memory instead.
If it comes to the battery think it's just because they wanted to place a bigger one there, and since the phone is really slim it was hard to achieve with an usual battery shape and that's probably why it isn't removable.
 

ARon

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I think I said this a long time ago in this thread but its nice to see it happening. HTC and its One line is great. Not 10 different phones spread across every provider. Just like Samsung did with its galaxy line it became focused and easier for consumers. Great move by HTC
 

masta247

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I agree. I was always a bit harsh towards HTC, since the company emerged as a cheap Taiwanese company selling super-overpriced Windows mobile smartphones fooling people to be quality, but their first Android line up, then The Nexus One/Desire phones were pretty good and the One line appears to be the best they ever did. Their 2011 line-up was crap with the Desire S and Incredible S, Sensation was also nothing to write home about.. and everything seems like their 2012 phones are going to be really great. If they don't fail in their first reviews (battery life tests, camera tests, optimization etc.) they are going to be pretty much outstanding.

I think Sony have a decent line-up too, it's basically pretty funny but they also have 3 devices targeted at exactly the same markets as HTC's 3 devices, and it's pretty ironic that they're going to be cheaper.
 

Pittsey

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On another hand that's what the Galaxy Nexus does too. I don't remember why but there was something about vanilla ICS that didn't work well with SD cards and manufacturers are encouraged to drop the sd card slot and pack more internal memory instead.
If it comes to the battery think it's just because they wanted to place a bigger one there, and since the phone is really slim it was hard to achieve with an usual battery shape and that's probably why it isn't removable.
A reason why I am not feeling the Nexus, either.
 

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