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ARon

Well-Known Member
That giz article is trash. If apple can bring nothing new to the table with a new release and get crowned king I don't see why google music can't do the same. The g+ integration is nice. If I were an artist i'd be way hype. I'm still not sold on only streaming like Pandora or spotify so that's not really a bother to me. I'm pretty excited about this...but who am I kidding, I rarely buy music so I won't use it much
 

S O F I

Administrator
Staff member
haha yeah, I was talking to my friend while the live stream was going on and told him "goodbye iTunes for me, I'll be buying music in the Android Market" to which he replied "...you buying music...that's funny".
 

dilla

Trumpfan17 aka Coonie aka Dilla aka Tennis Dog
Given that the app gave you the weather at all, it works. Just wherever it pulled the content from was wrong. Your criticism actually has nothing to do with the app. Speaktoit works pretty well the few times I've used it.

But generally I'm with ARon on this issue, most of this voice stuff is just a gimmick right now.
So there are low expectations for voice to text for you? There have been plenty of times when I'm in the car, and to avoid texting and driving, which I never do anyway, I just hit the voice button and talk my ten second text and hit send, all without looking. Can't remember the last time I had it mess up a word. Sure, capitalization may be off.

I don't think you're trying to say simply getting a response automatically deemed it as a "working app." It's never 40F in the Caribbean.
 

dilla

Trumpfan17 aka Coonie aka Dilla aka Tennis Dog
If you could have any tablet that is out on the market now (or is due out this Holiday season) which would it be and why? Seems like there are a lot of players now with Lenovo, Toshiba, Moto, ASUS, Acer, etc.
 

masta247

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Of course the Transformer Prime - the best tablet hands down. And it comes in December for 499$, for a brand new quad-core 1,3ghz Tegra 3 tablet! The pricing is amazing - it's as much as for the original Transformer, despite the fact that this thing has crucial components VASTLY upgraded, and is basically a next-gen tablet.
My second choice would be the Ipad 2, and I'm not kidding, seriously. Then Galaxy Note, if it counts as a tablet. Then the Tab 10.1, then the 8 inch tab with S-Amoled screen, don't remember its name. But nothing available this year comes close to Transformer Prime imho.
 

Casey

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Staff member
I don't think you're trying to say simply getting a response automatically deemed it as a "working app." It's never 40F in the Caribbean.
What I'm saying is that information didn't come from the app itself. It pulled the content from a weather site.


If you could have any tablet that is out on the market now (or is due out this Holiday season) which would it be and why? Seems like there are a lot of players now with Lenovo, Toshiba, Moto, ASUS, Acer, etc.
Transformer Prime, no question.
 

THEV1LL4N

Well-Known Member
looks like t-mobile and orange won't be offering the phone. but 3rd party websites have deals for the SGN on t-mobile and orange. as much as i really want this, i think the sensible decision would be to wait for the next nexus device.
 

Casey

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looks like t-mobile and orange won't be offering the phone. but 3rd party websites have deals for the SGN on t-mobile and orange. as much as i really want this, i think the sensible decision would be to wait for the next nexus device.
Are you out of contract? What I'd do, if I was out of contract would be to get the most premium and newest phone on your provider, threaten to leave so they give you a discount (always works), then immediately flip whatever device it is on eBay (if you SIM unlock it and root it, even better as that increases value) and then buy whatever device you originally wanted, SIM free.
 

THEV1LL4N

Well-Known Member
Are you out of contract? What I'd do, if I was out of contract would be to get the most premium and newest phone on your provider, threaten to leave so they give you a discount (always works), then immediately flip whatever device it is on eBay (if you SIM unlock it and root it, even better as that increases value) and then buy whatever device you originally wanted, SIM free.
My 12 month sim-only deal becomes a rolling monthly contract in january. I have been able to review it as of October 2011. Good idea, but it seems like too much hassle at this point in my life. i think i'll a) get it below £10/month if i can and continue with that, or b) get more minutes or texts. I want to build up my loyalty bonus but im not so sure what the future holds for t-mobile/orange and when the merger finally goes through what the data plans will be like.
currently, t-mobile seem to have the best data plan in this country with its unlimited fair use policy. O2 are more expensive when it comes to data - otherwise i'd go back to them, without a doubt. I'm looking for 1GB and doing so adds an extra £10 on per month.

I'm biding my time and seeing what I can do.

edit: with black friday and the january sales coming up there might be some excellent contract (phone and sim-only offers). I'll consider making a switch say, if O2 for example, provide extra data. Or i guess I could phone them up and ask what they could offer me in order for me to make me switch to O2.
 

Flipmo

VIP Member
Staff member
Hardware review was made on this Canadian site I visit for the Nexus S - so far so good!

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There is something immediately friendly about the Galaxy Nexus, as if you’ve seen it somewhere before. In spite of its curved silhouette, the design owes a lot to two previous Samsung devices: the Nexus S and, more effusively, the Galaxy S II. It retains the slight bottom hump, though less marked, and the pitch-black Super AMOLED display. The front is remarkable in its austerity; there are no capacitive touch buttons to interrupt the bezel and its symmetry. It’s as if you’re staring into a black hole.
Turn the device onto either side and you’ll a brushed metallic plastic rim, sturdily made as ever, but not rugged. At only 135g it feels extremely light due to even weight distribution, but it’s missing the satisfying heft of the iPhone 4S or HTC Amaze. It does, however, help the device disappear in the hand and lends it that blank slate effect Google is aspiring to.
Like all Samsung devices, the volume rocker is on the left and the power button on the right; the plastic buttons do a fine job and feel sturdy and strong. The bottom chin houses the microUSB port and headphone jack, an odd placement to be sure but likely necessitated by the 8.94mm thin top portion. We’ve actually come to prefer a bottom headphone placement, as it’s easier to jump right into using the device when taking it out of a pocket or bag, top down.
The battery portion almost exactly emulates the Galaxy S II 9100 with its textured plastic tab design. Samsung has wisely used a flexible matte plastic that bends easily but does not break. Underneath the housing is a 1750mAh battery, SIM card slot and, alas, no microSD slot.
The Galaxy Nexus takes on a teardrop design, elongated and stretched over the dimensions of the Nexus S but clearly its kin. It is a pleasure to hold, and despite a 4.65″ screen size, pocketable and comfortable. The curved glass is even more pronounced than its predecessor, and aides in visual acuity and overall touch accuracy. There is a white pulse light below the screen, reminding you of forgotten emails or unseen texts.



The Display
Stop worrying about PenTile.
The Galaxy Nexus has one of the most stunning screens we’ve ever seen. The pixels are so small as to be microscopic, and unless you utilize one you’re not going to see a PenTile grid. What you will see is sharp text, incredible viewing angles, perfect blacks and outstanding clarity. If this is the future of mobile displays we can only say, “It’s about time.”
Let’s start with colours. Reds, greens and blues are accurate; this isn’t your mother’s oversaturated Super AMOLED display. Either Google has done something with the colour temperature or Samsung has finely calibrated its parts but for the first time we can say that colour accuracy is equal to a Super LCD display. At full brightness whites are evenly toned, though they take on a slight yellow tinge at half brightness. Blacks stay true throughout owing to the AMOLED technology, and viewing angles are 180 degrees in all directions.
In sunlight the Galaxy Nexus fares pretty well, though most of the detail gets washed out. We wouldn’t recommend reading Anna Karenina on a hot June day, but it does about as well as other AMOLED displays, which unfortunately is less so than most LCDs. Maximum brightness is phenomenal, though we don’t have the correct equipment to measure it.
The most significant improvement over previous Super AMOLED displays is in the clarity of text. Reading an article or a desktop-formatted web page is not only attainable but enjoyable. With Android 4.0′s new Roboto font much of the interface is a pleasure to read, and it’s nice seeing Google taking an interest in typographic fundamentals.



Performance
Our full benchmark results will be in our Software Overview, but from hours of subjective usage there is no need to worry about occasional stuttering and slowdown. We are using the production build (ITL41D) and the operating system took everything we threw at it and then some.
The dual-core TI OMAP 4460 SoC runs at 1.2Ghz, 300Mhz lower than the chip is traditionally clocked at, but it seems like Google has taken a page from iOS and is finally utilizing hardware acceleration throughout the UI. Unlike a custom skin which has taxing animations and garish flourishes, ICS pares down excess, exciting us with mature design decisions. Press down on the new software home button and a blue glow emanates from where your skin touched the display. It’s organic and friendly. Meander through your list of apps and the new page pops up like an old friend. We have noticed no slowdown or app instability.
Before we received the device, what troubled us was the idea of a last-generation GPU pushing 1280×720 pixels of the Galaxy Nexus’ screen — we can now say that fear is unfounded. We picked up and played a few games of Wind-up Knight and found it performed better in its native resolution than did the Motorola RAZR at 960×540. The RAZR uses the same GPU at a slightly slower speed, but has 40% fewer pixels. Google has done some serious tweaking to the graphics drivers to achieve such amazing results.



Battery Life
So far, so good. While we’ve only had the device with official software for a day, the Galaxy Nexus has held up remarkably well. It doesn’t hurt that the majority of Ice Cream Sandwich is dark, which means fewer pixels are actually turned on at any time, but Google and Samsung were wise to choose the TI OMAP 4460 chipset for the job; it has proven to be one of the most power-efficient on the market.
We will do a complete battery run-down test in a future post.



Connectivity
Unlike the Nexus S which was released in multiple versions, the Galaxy Nexus has a 21Mbps pentaband UMTS radio inside. This means that out of the box it is 4G-compatible with every major carrier in Canada, including the new entrants. And, yes, the phone is unlocked by default so carrier portability shouldn’t be an issue.
We had great results making phone calls and downloading files using Bell’s HSPA+ network. While some users may be upset at lack of LTE support, the nascent technology is still too battery-hungry for long-term usage and most Canadians still don’t have access to it. Instead Google and Samsung Canada made the right decision to launch the HSPA+ model, on which we found download speeds consistently exceeded 5Mbps. Ping times were usually under 100ms, though occasionally they jumped over 150ms.
Call quality through the earpiece and speaker left us impressed: our recipients heard us loudly and clearly even while walking outside on a blustery fall day. Similarly the mono speaker on the back delivered loud, punchy audio in line with most of its Samsung kin.
A quick word on GPS: we used the free turn-by-turn navigation for over an hour with no signal jumps or losses. We obtained a signal in around eight seconds, and it never wavered.

What’s Next
In the coming days we will do a full in-depth review of the Android 4.0 software and its myriad improvements. Our initial impressions are good: this is the first time Android is visually contiguous throughout the OS, consistently fast and stable. Existing apps that haven’t been explicitly updated for ICS will see performance improvements and design changes; the menu is now at the top of the screen, dubbed the Action Bar.
The 5MP camera seems to take fantastic shots, and the speed at which they are taken is remarkable. It has been explained to us that Google and Samsung didn’t want to sacrifice shutter speed in place of a more capacious sensor, but five million pixels should suffice for most point-and-shooters. We’re going to take a look at the camera and video quality, and the new panorama mode.
From what little we’ve used of it, the keyboard has graciously been overhauled for the better. We really disliked the Gingerbread keyboard and so far have found this one not only extremely responsive but accurate and smart. Google has also revamped the copy-paste menu, so it’s no longer hold down-tap-hold down to perform a simple function.

We understand how excited you are to get a glimpse of the Galaxy Nexus and Ice Cream Sandwich and we look forward to taking you on that journey with us. There is lots more to come in the next few days, so stay tuned.
 

S O F I

Administrator
Staff member
On a side note, one of the founders of Diaspora, that social network that only Coonie mentions on this board, died in San Fran at age 22. They suspect suicide.

I think Zuck killed him. He only kills what he eats.
 

ARon

Well-Known Member
ICS > Nexus Prime...

I'm never buying a Samsung device ever again in my lifetime lol... Unless they step up their quality of material that is. Sure that plastic shit you use is strong and light but it feels like shit. I want metals on my phone, not a bunch of plastic. Who cares who has the lightest phone when were talking an ounce of weight, or grams even, shit is ridiculous. HTC makes the best quality built phones right now. Some of their designs are kind of weird but they're not bad. The front of the phone always looks nice but they always have a weird two tone back that just, nah. It looks better on some devices but others it ruins the phone. That picture of dude bending the back cover pretty much sums up what I'm saying about samsung. It's nice that that back doesnt break but the phone feels light and cheap, it's like putting the Veyrons engine in a smart car or some other stupid metaphor to explain what I'm saying. Stupid samsung.
 

Casey

Well-Known Member
Staff member
ICS > Nexus Prime...

I'm never buying a Samsung device ever again in my lifetime lol... Unless they step up their quality of material that is. Sure that plastic shit you use is strong and light but it feels like shit. I want metals on my phone, not a bunch of plastic. Who cares who has the lightest phone when were talking an ounce of weight, or grams even, shit is ridiculous. HTC makes the best quality built phones right now. Some of their designs are kind of weird but they're not bad. The front of the phone always looks nice but they always have a weird two tone back that just, nah. It looks better on some devices but others it ruins the phone. That picture of dude bending the back cover pretty much sums up what I'm saying about samsung. It's nice that that back doesnt break but the phone feels light and cheap, it's like putting the Veyrons engine in a smart car or some other stupid metaphor to explain what I'm saying. Stupid samsung.
Nah, I disagree. I owned two HTC devices before this SGS2 and the build quality to me just feels way better on this. The lightness makes a big difference to me too, I could always feel devices in my pockets before weighing 'em down and now I don't. I looked at the Sensation just before I got the SGS2 as the spec is more or less the same and I just wasn't digging it. I don't particularly want metal used in phone casing.

but yeah, beauty of android is that we even have a range of choices in the first place lol.
 

ARon

Well-Known Member
I agree with what you're saying, i'ts nice that we have choices, but come on man. GSII weight is 4.77 ounces or 135 grams. Sensation weight is 5.22 ounces or 148 grams. yeah
 

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