Technology Wii sucks ass

hizzle?

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#41
KAMIKAZI said:
But they're not the same... and who gets a game for strictly graphics anyway. If you want to see good graphics watch Finding Nemo or somethin.
what dude shuddup... For instance, FIFA (soccer...)98 was fucking great if you compare it to FIFA 2006 and theres NO fucking way in hell ill play the 98 version the graphs fucking suck
 
#42
how hizzle? said:
what dude shuddup... For instance, FIFA (soccer...)98 was fucking great if you compare it to FIFA 2006 and theres NO fucking way in hell ill play the 98 version the graphs fucking suck
I agree. When it comes to comparisons like that...yes, I agree. But let me say one thing. I'd rather play Super Mario World for Super Nintendo than play some of the beautiful games that play like SHIT that exist now. And for people in this thread to say the visuals are the same as a Game Cube...that's just stupid. There is no way in hell that a GameCube could push out Super Mario Galaxy. No way.


I agree with everything KAMIKAZI has said in this thread. The Wii is the ONLY console this generation that will offer something NEW. Do you guys have any idea how much Sony has stolen from Nintendo? Hell, as soon as they heard about Nintendo's new high tech controller they decided 2 put a little something in theirs. Don't you THINK Nintendo is actually doing SOMETHING right?

And to the people talking shit about what I said earlier...no, my feelings were not hurt. And no, what I said was nothing like writing a "novel" (whatever that meant), but I just don't like it when people are so damn ignorant. Honestly...I'm a gamer. I'm not a biased gamer either. I just look at it from a realistic perspective.
 
#43
what i'm saying is, is that the wii doesn't have anything going for it for me to pick it up. id rather get a ps2 than a wii.

and i already have a 360 and planning on getting 4 ps3s and selling 3 of them at launch to get mad money
 

Jeremy

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#44
I dont see why anyone would wanna mess with a controller moving it around and shit. You know those people that jerk the controller when they are playing games like it helps them. I hate when people do that shit. The Wii is for those people. lol. Regarding the Wii graphics it was said that they are basicly the same as the gamecube. I got a 360 cause I wanted graphics as close as I could get to my pc. Regardless, PC owns all when it comes to graphics and game play.
 
#45
MaKaVeLi2K3 said:
And for people in this thread to say the visuals are the same as a Game Cube...that's just stupid. There is no way in hell that a GameCube could push out Super Mario Galaxy. No way.
because 50Mhz extra on the wii GPU will make a big difference, right? face it, wii=gamecube in terms of processing power. it's basically the exact same machine with an insignificant amount of extra umpth. nintendo couldn't just sell a remote and promote it because they wouldn't be able to really make alot of money off of it. So the suits at Niintendo said hey, lets gather together all these scrap chips we had leftover in manufacturing of the gaymecube and include this gimmicky controller as our main selling point,so we can make some money and make some more mario games. And then was born the wii.

MaKaVeLi2K3 said:
Do you guys have any idea how much Sony has stolen from Nintendo? Hell, as soon as they heard about Nintendo's new high tech controller they decided 2 put a little something in theirs. Don't you THINK Nintendo is actually doing SOMETHING right?
no you got it all wrong, sony AND nintendo stole the idea from microsoft. Microsoft invested time and money with this motion sensing crap for pc games and guess what? it turned out to be a total flop. Nobody cared. Today's conventional controls are the standard and no way in hell pointing a stick to the screen will take over. Why do you think microsoft didn't include any of this gimmicky shit in the 360? here comes sony and nintendo revolutionizing the way we play games... 7 years late


Oh,and Mario is a fag
 
#46
DUB CEE said:
ha no. xbox 360 is totally different from the original xbox and the PS3 is a george forman grill on crack. both systems totally shit on the old systems (even though I still play my xbox since not all games are backwards compatible)
How is the XBox 360 different? It has shinier graphics and a better engine.

i mean shit, why buy the wii when the gamecube is the exact same thing & the GC is cheaper.
Maybe (and I don't know if you've noticed this) because the Wii has new games? Exclusive titles that you can't buy (and that wouldn't work) on previous or competing consoles.

Hell, why not stick with the PS2 and the XBox considering everything released for the new consoles will be identical to the games released before?

DUB CEE said:
i meant the graphics are the same.. not the consoles themselves
Oh, Ok. I was under the impression that you played the games, rather than sat there drooling at the pixel count.

how hizzle? said:
man wtf, they just do the same games on every console they put out...
They're called franchises. You know, like Halo and MGS and Gran Turismo and Project Gotham Racing. Except fun.

And if they put out Super Smash Brothers again on a fucking console, i swear to god, ill buy all of the wiis and burry them in Southern Dakota
They are bringing out a SSB game, and it will sell. Because everyone who doesn't suck loves SSB.
 
#47
Illuminattile said:
How is the XBox 360 different? It has shinier graphics and a better engine.


Maybe (and I don't know if you've noticed this) because the Wii has new games? Exclusive titles that you can't buy (and that wouldn't work) on previous or competing consoles.

Hell, why not stick with the PS2 and the XBox considering everything released for the new consoles will be identical to the games released before?


Oh, Ok. I was under the impression that you played the games, rather than sat there drooling at the pixel count.


They're called franchises. You know, like Halo and MGS and Gran Turismo and Project Gotham Racing. Except fun.


They are bringing out a SSB game, and it will sell. Because everyone who doesn't suck loves SSB.
xbox 360 has a totally new graphics card + crazy hardware which will benefit the console later on, new dashboard (which is pretty dope). has custom soundtracks for every game you play, upscales old xbox games to up to 1080i iirc, lets you stream audio/video/pictures (the xbox could but only if you were modded), a better controller, lets you hook up your MP3 players (shit I hooked up my friends RAZR V3i and listened to music while I charged it), Xbox Live got a huge facelift, and etc. etc.

the 360 has games that the xbox definently couldn't handle. have you seen the new madden 07, gears of war, etc? crazy shit

and no games aren't all about graphics but you expect them to be better with the newest console that the company is putting out and with a price tag of 300 bucks and looking the same as the console before it, fuck that. buy a gamecube for under 100 and get some dope games like resident evil 4
 
#48
DUB CEE said:
xbox 360 has a totally new graphics card + crazy hardware which will benefit the console later on, new dashboard (which is pretty dope). has custom soundtracks for every game you play, upscales old xbox games to up to 1080i iirc, lets you stream audio/video/pictures (the xbox could but only if you were modded), a better controller, lets you hook up your MP3 players (shit I hooked up my friends RAZR V3i and listened to music while I charged it), Xbox Live got a huge facelift, and etc. etc.
You're paying $400 for "shinier graphics" a "better engine", a pretty UI, an improved online games service, a slightly less cumbersome controller and a bunch of ancillary features that, personally, I would rarely use.

I'll be paying $250 for slightly shinier graphics, a slightly better engine, a prettier UI, Internet access, an online games service (with better games) and a revolutionary control system that will change the way I actually play the new games that come out.

the 360 has games that the xbox definently couldn't handle. have you seen the new madden 07, gears of war, etc? crazy shit
But they're still the same games you've played before, albeit with a couple of new features and better graphics. You've played Maden before, you've played third-person shooters before. They'll look good and they'll be fun to play, but there's nothing new about them.

and no games aren't all about graphics but you expect them to be better with the newest console that the company is putting out and with a price tag of 300 bucks and looking the same as the console before it, fuck that. buy a gamecube for under 100 and get some dope games like resident evil 4
You're still acting like they've taken the GameCube, made some minor adjustments and put it back on the shelves. Of all the consoles, the Wii looks the least like its predecessor. Why? Because Nintendo have actually innovated and taken a risk, rather than upgrading the hardware and slapping a big price tag on it.
 
#49
^^^^ Totally Agree. Innovation > Same Old Shit. :laugh:

Guys, take a look at the Nintendo DS and the PSP. The DS has a little bit more "oomph" in it than the 64. The visuals are nothing to go nuts about. BUT, they focused more on gameplay with the mic, the touch screen, and the double screens. The PSP had nothing unique and was simply a media machine that was a short fad. Now look at the sales. The DS is destroying the PSP because it has unique games that everyone loves. The PSP? Pretty graphics, boring games, and movies that don't even sell (best buy is taking them off the shelves and so are a bunch of other retailers). Don't you see? DISRUPTIVE software is what brought the DS on top. The same old stuff is why the PSP fell. Look at the Wii and PS3. The same thing will happen.

At E3 there was a FIVE hour wait to play games for the Wii. There were hundreds of people on line. The PS3 had a twenty minute wait. The Wii will succeed just like the DS.
 

Diaz

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#50
MaKaVeLi2K3 said:
^^^^ Totally Agree. Innovation > Same Old Shit. :laugh:

Guys, take a look at the Nintendo DS and the PSP. The DS has a little bit more "oomph" in it than the 64. The visuals are nothing to go nuts about. BUT, they focused more on gameplay with the mic, the touch screen, and the double screens. The PSP had nothing unique and was simply a media machine that was a short fad. Now look at the sales. The DS is destroying the PSP because it has unique games that everyone loves. The PSP? Pretty graphics, boring games, and movies that don't even sell (best buy is taking them off the shelves and so are a bunch of other retailers). Don't you see? DISRUPTIVE software is what brought the DS on top. The same old stuff is why the PSP fell. Look at the Wii and PS3. The same thing will happen.

At E3 there was a FIVE hour wait to play games for the Wii. There were hundreds of people on line. The PS3 had a twenty minute wait. The Wii will succeed just like the DS.
I'm surprised the DS succeeded, I bought it when it first came out and got bored with it quick, there isn't much games they can put out for it to take advantage of the touch screen that isn't some dumb puzzle game.
 
#51
how hizzle? said:
what dude shuddup... For instance, FIFA (soccer...)98 was fucking great if you compare it to FIFA 2006 and theres NO fucking way in hell ill play the 98 version the graphs fucking suck
That's a different story. Back then, graphics were still blocky and now they're smooth and realistic. That's a huge difference, which is hardly the case for the Wii and the PS3/360. Just because the PS3 and 360's graphics are better doesn't mean the Wii's graphics "fucking suck".

MaKaVeLi2K3 said:
Guys, take a look at the Nintendo DS and the PSP. The DS has a little bit more "oomph" in it than the 64. The visuals are nothing to go nuts about. BUT, they focused more on gameplay with the mic, the touch screen, and the double screens. The PSP had nothing unique and was simply a media machine that was a short fad. Now look at the sales. The DS is destroying the PSP because it has unique games that everyone loves. The PSP? Pretty graphics, boring games, and movies that don't even sell (best buy is taking them off the shelves and so are a bunch of other retailers). Don't you see? DISRUPTIVE software is what brought the DS on top. The same old stuff is why the PSP fell. Look at the Wii and PS3. The same thing will happen.
Yeah exactly. The other companies are focusing more on gimmicks like "ZOMG IT CAN PLAY DVDS" and less on gameplay. Who cares, if you can afford a video game system, you probably already have a DVD player anyway.
 
#52
^^^^ Yeah man. Honestly, if it wasn't for Nintendo with the DS and the Wii, I wouldn't see the gaming industry advancing far. If it was just the 360 and PS3...I'd be one nervous gamer, because the less money there is in a market, the less the developers and industry leaders are interested in it anymore. Which would mean NO GAMES! I thank Nintendo for what they are doing. They really are helping the game industry.
 
#53
Illuminattile said:
You're paying $400 for "shinier graphics" a "better engine", a pretty UI, an improved online games service, a slightly less cumbersome controller and a bunch of ancillary features that, personally, I would rarely use.

I'll be paying $250 for slightly shinier graphics, a slightly better engine, a prettier UI, Internet access, an online games service (with better games) and a revolutionary control system that will change the way I actually play the new games that come out.


But they're still the same games you've played before, albeit with a couple of new features and better graphics. You've played Maden before, you've played third-person shooters before. They'll look good and they'll be fun to play, but there's nothing new about them.


You're still acting like they've taken the GameCube, made some minor adjustments and put it back on the shelves. Of all the consoles, the Wii looks the least like its predecessor. Why? Because Nintendo have actually innovated and taken a risk, rather than upgrading the hardware and slapping a big price tag on it.
see here is where your arguement crumbles. the quality of games is a opinion, not fact. i personally don't like playing most of the games that the gamecube ever came out (obviously I've played & enjoyed a couple of games) and the features on the 360 I use alot. So to each their own.

The only difference I see between the gamecube and the wii is wii's retarded controller and different box.. oh and now it finally has online games besides PSO.
 
#54
DUB CEE said:
see here is where your arguement crumbles. the quality of games is a opinion, not fact. i personally don't like playing most of the games that the gamecube ever came out (obviously I've played & enjoyed a couple of games) and the features on the 360 I use alot. So to each their own.

The only difference I see between the gamecube and the wii is wii's retarded controller and different box.. oh and now it finally has online games besides PSO.
Well, since I'm hear to simply spread knowledge to those who aren't so knowledgeable about gaming, I'll make this post (No offense intended AT ALL).

I wouldn't call the Wii a little upgrade or call the controller retarded. It has gotten nothing but praise since people tried it at E3 in May. It is much superior than the 360 and PS3 controllers. They simply cannot compare. The Wii controller allows for traditional gameplay and new gameplay elements. It allows for movement in 3-D space. It adds more realism than graphics do.

Movies = Seeing is believing.
Gaming = Playing is believing.

Imagine actually USING the controller like a gun instead of using analog sticks. Imagine actually maneuvering a flash light with your left hand as your right hand controls your desert eagle. As you reload, the sounds FROM THE GUN do not only come from the T.V. They come out through the remote as if it was your gun in real life. This technology is simply amazing, and offers much more than Sony and Microsoft right now.

Don't get me wrong...I want a 360. But I also want a Wii. I'm more excited about the Wii because I'm confident Nintendo is going to give me what I need as a gamer. They already have with the controller. Game developers are LEAVING Sony for the Nintendo Wii because there are so much more possibilities and it costs less to make games.

Oh and by the way...the Wii has a much more sexier design than the PS3 (George Foreman Grill) or the 360 (Nice design, but the Wii's blue laser light in the front and high quality reflective plastic on the outside just murders the 360's design).
 

hizzle?

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#55
That's a different story. Back then, graphics were still blocky and now they're smooth and realistic. That's a huge difference, which is hardly the case for the Wii and the PS3/360. Just because the PS3 and 360's graphics are better doesn't mean the Wii's graphics "fucking suck".

well like you said, the industry evolves... there's new levels... well Wii didn't raise the level of graphics at all, hence the graphics suck if u compare them to the xbox360 graphics...
 

hizzle?

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#56
Oh and by the way...the Wii has a much more sexier design than the PS3 (George Foreman Grill) or the 360 (Nice design, but the Wii's blue laser light in the front and high quality reflective plastic on the outside just murders the 360's design).
do you really watch the box? :).. the only thing that i care about is the space, i dont care how it looks... (the Wii takes less space than the box, i know.)
 
#57
how hizzle? said:
well like you said, the industry evolves... there's new levels... well Wii didn't raise the level of graphics at all, hence the graphics suck if u compare them to the xbox360 graphics...
No. Just because I like Mountain Dew better than Pepsi doesn't mean Pepsi sucks (for lack of better comparisons).

Releasing pretty much the same shit with better graphics and extra gimmicks like a DVD player isn't evolving to a new level, however changing the style of gameplay is.
 

hizzle?

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#58
they only changed the style, not meaning that they made it better... I personally don't like it...


It does bring a new dimension to the consoles thought...

they did create another segment of customers in the gaming market...its just i aint sure they'll be able to keep up with the Box and the Ps3.
 
#59
MaKaVeLi2K3 said:
Well, since I'm hear to simply spread knowledge to those who aren't so knowledgeable about gaming, I'll make this post (No offense intended AT ALL).

I wouldn't call the Wii a little upgrade or call the controller retarded. It has gotten nothing but praise since people tried it at E3 in May. It is much superior than the 360 and PS3 controllers. They simply cannot compare. The Wii controller allows for traditional gameplay and new gameplay elements. It allows for movement in 3-D space. It adds more realism than graphics do.

Movies = Seeing is believing.
Gaming = Playing is believing.

Imagine actually USING the controller like a gun instead of using analog sticks. Imagine actually maneuvering a flash light with your left hand as your right hand controls your desert eagle. As you reload, the sounds FROM THE GUN do not only come from the T.V. They come out through the remote as if it was your gun in real life. This technology is simply amazing, and offers much more than Sony and Microsoft right now.

Don't get me wrong...I want a 360. But I also want a Wii. I'm more excited about the Wii because I'm confident Nintendo is going to give me what I need as a gamer. They already have with the controller. Game developers are LEAVING Sony for the Nintendo Wii because there are so much more possibilities and it costs less to make games.

Oh and by the way...the Wii has a much more sexier design than the PS3 (George Foreman Grill) or the 360 (Nice design, but the Wii's blue laser light in the front and high quality reflective plastic on the outside just murders the 360's design).
I'm perfectly content with my logitech xbox wireless controller & xbox 360 controller. the new controller just doesn't cut the 300 dollar pricetag for me. especially if the god damn wii can't play DVDs which is pretty pathetic since this is 2006 not 1998. and please spare me the bullshit about "extra gimmicks" no buddy every console except nintendos have a DVD player and now they're coming out with either HD-DVD or Blu-Ray! shit they might as well have VHS but nope not even that.

one thing I do like about the wii is being able to play every nintendo console game on it (i remember reading that somwhere) but for me it doesn't matter because i have a modded xbox and a internet connection.

most of this topic is blindless love for the wii well guess what people get consoles for different reasons. no shit it's not about the graphics it's about having fun and the controller looks more like a hassle then anything. i doubt any of you have already tried the controller so miss me with the "omg its so much better". to me the only thing that's going for this console is it's controller
 
#60
DUB CEE said:
see here is where your arguement crumbles. the quality of games is a opinion, not fact. i personally don't like playing most of the games that the gamecube ever came out (obviously I've played & enjoyed a couple of games) and the features on the 360 I use alot. So to each their own.
The Wii's virtual console will have classic NES, SNES and N64 games, plus the best games from other consoles (Sega Genesis etc.)

Xbox Live Arcade can't compete with that, don't pretend it can.

DUB CEE said:
I'm perfectly content with my logitech xbox wireless controller & xbox 360 controller. the new controller just doesn't cut the 300 dollar pricetag for me.
$250. And I'd rather pay $250 for a controller that will offer me a different gaming experience than double that for a big chunky box that will make the games look prettier.

especially if the god damn wii can't play DVDs which is pretty pathetic since this is 2006 not 1998. and please spare me the bullshit about "extra gimmicks" no buddy every console except nintendos have a DVD player
See, Nintendo makes games consoles. Consoles to play games on. Like you said, this is 2006 not 1998. If you don't have something else to play DVDs on, then you're behind the times.

and now they're coming out with either HD-DVD or Blu-Ray! shit they might as well have VHS but nope not even that.
I'd rather not pay through the nose just so my games consoles supports a format that isn't popular and might not ever be.

most of this topic is blindless love for the wii well guess what people get consoles for different reasons. no shit it's not about the graphics it's about having fun and the controller looks more like a hassle then anything. i doubt any of you have already tried the controller so miss me with the "omg its so much better". to me the only thing that's going for this console is it's controller
If the "only thing" the Wii has is the controller, that's more than the other consoles have going for them. The controller affects the way you actually play the games, the graphics don't.
 

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