What is your idea of the afterlife?
- Thread starter CoolWaterz
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you think that can't happen because of the life down here which is bad because people make it bad. we all have choices. after you die you either go to heaven with God forever or you go to hell forever. soon God is going to come back and that is called the rapture and then all the people that aren't christians will stay on earth for 7 years. the first 3 1/2 years are ok not too bad but then the last 3 1/2 are horrific and the anti-christ will try and tell people he is God but he isn't and he is tryin to take as many people down with him as he can. you can become a christian during these 7 years and when you die or when the 7 years are up then you can go to heaven. after the 7 years then there will be 1000 years where all the christians will be on earth and it will be peaceful, but God will release satan and he will try and tempt people to not be christians. after this 1000 years then it will all be over and everyone in the world will go to heaven or hell for all eternity. you dont' have to believe me but i recomend you watch the signs and read the Bible. i recoment the book Revelation and in that book it will tell you what happens and it is a the most scary book in the Bible because it tells you all these bad things that will happen. i would hope that some of you might turn christian so you won't have to suffer for eternity but i know that probaly won't happen.......
But you are Christian, thus you believe that G-d sent his only son to die on the cross...so you are totally confusing the two? Am i right? Jesus taught that salvation came through the worship of G-d...in fact its a sin to pray to any images and yet you guys pray to a an image bearing a crucifix and wear one around your neck....
my point is, if you believe in G-d that is all Jesus ever preached. I think that Christianity along the years has added manmade details to distinct itself from Judiasm and somewhere along the way Jesus's message was lost.
my point is, if you believe in G-d that is all Jesus ever preached. I think that Christianity along the years has added manmade details to distinct itself from Judiasm and somewhere along the way Jesus's message was lost.
Who said that? Why somebody just make up something just to seperate themselves from another religion? Can't you just say no I dont want to be a judaist?
So Jesus doesn't want us to pratice goodness for oursleves and for others? To love God and pray? The message seems clear to me.
How do you know if the orginal message your talking about is lost? What if it just doesnt exist? Something to think about.
If you want to see more of Jesus' messsage you should go read the Nag Hammadi (I think I spelled it right)
Anywayz just some thoughts that came up in my head
So Jesus doesn't want us to pratice goodness for oursleves and for others? To love God and pray? The message seems clear to me.
How do you know if the orginal message your talking about is lost? What if it just doesnt exist? Something to think about.
If you want to see more of Jesus' messsage you should go read the Nag Hammadi (I think I spelled it right)
Anywayz just some thoughts that came up in my head
contradicting thoughts= having a mind of your own?? dont think so
but mabye i didnt clearly say what i meant. u said:
so u believe in heaven. how does heaven look like for u? what is heaven?
eternal sleep without dreams would be something similar what i believe in. when you die, its the end.no heaven, no nothing. so i thought what u said didnt fit together since u believe in heaven. maybe u could explain it a bit more...
but mabye i didnt clearly say what i meant. u said:
so u believe in heaven. how does heaven look like for u? what is heaven?
eternal sleep without dreams would be something similar what i believe in. when you die, its the end.no heaven, no nothing. so i thought what u said didnt fit together since u believe in heaven. maybe u could explain it a bit more...
who is born a bad person? According to Islam every child is born sinless, and no sin is inherited. Islam does not recognize any original sin whatsoever, no man would have to be born with it. every child born is a pure innocent creature, which will only become sinful when it actually commits a sin itself, and one definitely cannot commit a sin before one is born
are you sure? isnt everyone according to christianity born with the sin of adam and Eve's disobedience to God is passed on to their descendants and thus the whole of mankind is accursed with that Original Sin, from which no salvation is possible unless one believes in the atoning death on the cross of the Son of God.? how can a child who died at birth believe that hwne he she never had the chance to?
for example? even if he did it make it clear to you, you still wouldnt believe it unless he himself appeared infront of you and told you which one is right and which is wrong, you must understand religion before you ask such questions, there would be no purpose in life if he did just that, i believe he has pointed to us which religion is right and it is up to us to use our abilities which god gave us to find out which one it is
islamic point of view
ever since life began God has been sending His messengers or pophets to guide them along the “right path”. When prophets passed away, people who followed them differed among themselves in the understanding and interpretation of the Guidance they had received from God through those prophets. Sometimes, the wicked and selfish among them, deliberately distorted the true message out of their mutual ill will or to satisfy their greed.
Thus, it was that way new religions took place. Still, God sent prophets again to call people back to the original pure religion Nevertheless, these prophets were often treated with contempt and derision by their people. But God kept sending His prophets to teach people the “true religion”, as it was constantly being replaced by the innovations of mankind.
Later, when human culture and civilization came of age, and the new era of printing and communication was at its dawn, God sent His last prophet, Muhammad (pbuh) to fulfill what the earlier prophets had been teaching. He was given the Holy Qur'an, the final Book of revelation, which God promised to safeguard from all change or corruption. This was Islam (submission to the one and only God). In fact the Religion taught by all the prophets Jesus, Abraham, moses, Noah (pbut) though later their followers attributed their religions to the names of the prophets or so-called founders of those religions. Some even made such attributions to the names of the land where those prophets lived. Thus it was that Buddhism, Hinduism, Confucianism, Judaism and Christianity were born.
can you not believe in both a and b? at least i do
everything which has a beginning has a cause, it is self-evident that things that begin have a cause, no one really denies it in his heart. All science and history would collapse if this law of cause and effect were denied. my life had a beginning and i really dont believe that im livin my life for nothing, whats the point than?
are you sure? isnt everyone according to christianity born with the sin of adam and Eve's disobedience to God is passed on to their descendants and thus the whole of mankind is accursed with that Original Sin, from which no salvation is possible unless one believes in the atoning death on the cross of the Son of God.? how can a child who died at birth believe that hwne he she never had the chance to?
for example? even if he did it make it clear to you, you still wouldnt believe it unless he himself appeared infront of you and told you which one is right and which is wrong, you must understand religion before you ask such questions, there would be no purpose in life if he did just that, i believe he has pointed to us which religion is right and it is up to us to use our abilities which god gave us to find out which one it is
islamic point of view
ever since life began God has been sending His messengers or pophets to guide them along the “right path”. When prophets passed away, people who followed them differed among themselves in the understanding and interpretation of the Guidance they had received from God through those prophets. Sometimes, the wicked and selfish among them, deliberately distorted the true message out of their mutual ill will or to satisfy their greed.
Thus, it was that way new religions took place. Still, God sent prophets again to call people back to the original pure religion Nevertheless, these prophets were often treated with contempt and derision by their people. But God kept sending His prophets to teach people the “true religion”, as it was constantly being replaced by the innovations of mankind.
Later, when human culture and civilization came of age, and the new era of printing and communication was at its dawn, God sent His last prophet, Muhammad (pbuh) to fulfill what the earlier prophets had been teaching. He was given the Holy Qur'an, the final Book of revelation, which God promised to safeguard from all change or corruption. This was Islam (submission to the one and only God). In fact the Religion taught by all the prophets Jesus, Abraham, moses, Noah (pbut) though later their followers attributed their religions to the names of the prophets or so-called founders of those religions. Some even made such attributions to the names of the land where those prophets lived. Thus it was that Buddhism, Hinduism, Confucianism, Judaism and Christianity were born.
can you not believe in both a and b? at least i do
everything which has a beginning has a cause, it is self-evident that things that begin have a cause, no one really denies it in his heart. All science and history would collapse if this law of cause and effect were denied. my life had a beginning and i really dont believe that im livin my life for nothing, whats the point than?
I believe that we are judged for our actions and get punished justly. This life is a test and I have to tell myself that everyday to get by. If I pass, all my dreams come true, and if I fail, then I'm fucked. But the good thing is that I get to decide if I fail or not, cuz we all are responsible for our own actions.
I have never seen anything that has made me feel there is anything more than what I stated.
And mostly what I see regarding your point of view is pathetic attempts at people clutching at straws to prove that they're 'special'.
Also, how can you question me when I state that I, regarding God and spiritual matters, see nothing, feel nothing and smell nothing apart from some kiddy-fiddling preacher's bullshit.
Our sense do often lie, but until they're proved wrong it's only natural that we follow them.
Tell me, other than that 'there must be more/we can't just be here for no reason' crap, is there an actual reason why you believe in what you say.
And mostly what I see regarding your point of view is pathetic attempts at people clutching at straws to prove that they're 'special'.
Also, how can you question me when I state that I, regarding God and spiritual matters, see nothing, feel nothing and smell nothing apart from some kiddy-fiddling preacher's bullshit.
Our sense do often lie, but until they're proved wrong it's only natural that we follow them.
Tell me, other than that 'there must be more/we can't just be here for no reason' crap, is there an actual reason why you believe in what you say.
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