What is your idea of the afterlife?

[TecK NeeX]

Man and Apes evolved from the same branch, we seperated paths during evolution and thats why there are different specials of apes and monkeys. Evolution takes millions of years to happen, its not a 5 year deal so we will never see something evolve (other then diseases) in our life time.

if evolution does take millions of years to hapen than humaity it self is millions of years old and that my friend is just plain absurd

I find the evidence of evolution far greater than creationism, just the thought of humans and all the animals in the world were created instantly is illogical when if you look at the animal kingdom you can see how animals adapted to their enviroment.

who said instantly? and how is something being created illogical and something out of no where just pop up and started evolving by chance not illogical? you might wanna look up the word illogical man

 

[TecK NeeX]

Real talk. What more can I say?

Teck's beliefs are straight up retarded.

you might wanna stop the ass kissing and say something semi-intelligent for yourself, ever thought of that?

'One man shitting in another's man's mouth doesn't have a hint of homosexuality'

No

It appears that while I said that I had just lit up a fat one as a joke, you really have been smoking strong shit while snorting coke and taking regular hits of acid.

Man, what would your God say? (Bar fuck off, you faggot)

lol easy there rambo

 

[Illuminattile]

lol are you serious? why would i believe in a theory so flawed that it makes aliens landed on earth and populated this planet look alot more plausible?, the day i see a creature evolve into something i would believe in evolution

Of course you're not going to see a creature evolve into something else because it takes millions of years. When was the last time you saw God?

lol i just feel sorry for the other monkeys and apes we see today for not being as fortunate as us to evolve into superior and more intelligent lifeforms like us, hmm i wonder why that is? i guess evolution did an enie meenie miny moe to decide who gets to evolve and who doesnt huh? this is freakin hilarious

You should probably read up on evolution before trying to talk about it. We didn't evolve from monkeys. Monkeys and humans both evolved from the same thing. You're also assuming that all creatures should evolve into humans, which is also erroneous. Natural selection.

say guys what will humans evolve to next? and who gets to evolve and who doesnt? im guessing one eyed giant monsters what about you?

What benefit would having one eye give us? If we needed to evolve to adapt to a changing climate, then we would. Over time.

whats there to address? you think the purpose of life is to be a good kind person, i dont disagree with you on that only difference is i have faith in my creator along side that and you dont

Have you forgotten the original point? I said, why would God make us have to go out and attempt to find the 'real' religion? If the purpose of life is to be a good person, why must there be so many different religions, all supposedly the 'word of God'?

this doesnt make sence

If God had sent down his message clearly to the first humans, then they would have passed it on to their children and so on, and people wouldn't have started inventing Gods to explain things they didn't understand.

 

[Glockmatic]

if evolution does take millions of years to hapen than humaity it self is millions of years old and that my friend is just plain absurd

How is it absurd? Human civilization may not have been around for millions of years, but humans have been, there are fossils to prove that (unless you think that they're somehow fake).

who said instantly? and how is something being created illogical and something out of no where just pop up and started evolving by chance not illogical? you might wanna look up the word illogical man

The Sixth Day: God made man and woman in His own image.And God said,
"Let them have dominion over the fish of the sea, and over the fowl of the air, and over the cattle, and over all the earth, and over every creeping thing that creepeth upon the earth."

Sounds sort of instantly doesn't it? Read this http://www.biology-online.org/10/1_first_life.htm and maybe you will learn something about how life started

 

[CalcuoCuchicheo]

you might wanna stop the ass kissing and say something semi-intelligent for yourself, ever thought of that?




No



lol easy there rambo

Man I've posted quite a lot in this thread but you disregard anything that goes against your belief. Basically, I've given up trying to talk intelligently to your brain dead ass but if others want to try and attempt a miracle I can show my support for the points they make if I want. The again, if you don't like it, why don't you pray that things'll change....

 

[Illuminattile]

if evolution does take millions of years to hapen than humaity it self is millions of years old and that my friend is just plain absurd

Homo habilis cropped up over 2 million years ago.

 

[hussain4891]

[QUOTE/] What benefit would having one eye give us? If we needed to evolve to adapt to a changing climate, then we would. Over time. [QUOTE/]

it seems like we have gone a step back then why have we lost all the hair from our bodys if we are adjusting to climates no one can walk around naked in russia for example without freezing there ass off they would die?

 

[Illuminattile]

it seems like we have gone a step back then why have we lost all the hair from our bodys if we are adjusting to climates no one can walk around naked in russia for example without freezing there ass off they would die?

If people did start exposing themselves to the cold temperatures then those with more body hair would survive and those without body hair would not. Over time, natural selection would occur and people in that area would be hairier, or at least more adapted to colder temperatures.

 

[TecK NeeX]

How is it absurd? Human civilization may not have been around for millions of years, but humans have been, there are fossils to prove that (unless you think that they're somehow fake).

really? id really appreciate it if you can find me something about this fossil that is millions of years old, if i remember correctly the oldest human fossil ever found was 160 000 years old

A team of 45 scientists from 14 different countries led by Professor Tim White from Berkeley University has uncovered and assembled three fossilised skulls from Ethiopia that provide the oldest record of modern humans.

The landmark discovery was made public in the scientific journal Nature on June 12. The find was made in 1997 in an arid valley close to the Middle Awash River near the village of Herto, 225 kilometres northeast of Addis Ababa. The three skulls—two adults and one child—were so fragmented that it took five years to piece them together and were dated at 160,000 years old using the Argon-Argon method. The dating was quite precise as the fossils were found between two layers of volcanic ash.

The Sixth Day: God made man and woman in His own image.And God said,
"Let them have dominion over the fish of the sea, and over the fowl of the air, and over the cattle, and over all the earth, and over every creeping thing that creepeth upon the earth."

im not christian man

Sounds sort of instantly doesn't it? Read this http://www.biology-online.org/10/1_first_life.htm and maybe you will learn something about how life started

do you want me to flood this thread with articles puttin the evolution theory to shame? thetheory has been challenged and apposed by thousands if not millions of scientists

 

[CalcuoCuchicheo]

really? id really appreciate it if you can find me something about this fossil that is millions of years old, if i remember correctly the oldest human fossil ever found was 160 000 years old





im not christian man




do you want me to flood this thread with articles puttin the evolution theory to shame? thetheory has been challenged and apposed by thousands if not millions of scientists

And religion has been challenged by billions.....

 

[Glockmatic]

modern humans

http://www.wsu.edu:8001/vwsu/gened/learn-modules/top_longfor/timeline/timeline.html

Homo habilis - 2.2 to 1.6 million years BCE
Homo erectus - 2 to 0.4 million years BCE
Homo sapiens - 400,000 to 200,000 years BCE
Homo sapiens neandertalensis - 200,000 to 30,000 years BCE
Homo sapiens sapiens - 130,000 years BCE to present

Each are a different type of human, so my point is valid.

Don't put up links, tell us how evolution doesn't work in your own words.

 

[TecK NeeX]

homo erectus and homo habilis are not human, they are poorly defined species and too difficult to identify or date, many scientists have said that there are numerous features in which they differ from homosapiens , and some said that they are more of an ape-like creatures since they had alot of common characteristics with apes, they had long arms and short legs and an ape like skeletal structure, its fingers and toes were suitable for climbing, their jaw was very similar to that of today's apes. In short, Homo habilis, which you presented as humans speices was in reality an ape species just like all the other australopithecines. nice try tho,

Research carried out in the years since Wood and Brace's work has demonstrated that Homo habilis was indeed no different from Australopithecus. The skull and skeletal fossil OH62 found by Tim White showed that this species had a small cranial capacity, as well as long arms and short legs, which enabled them to climb trees just like modern apes do.

The detailed analyses conducted by American anthropologist Holly Smith in 1994 indicated that Homo habilis was not Homo, in other words, human, at all, but rather unequivocally an ape. Speaking of the analyses she made on the teeth of Australopithecus, Homo habilis, Homo erectus and Homo neanderthalensis, Smith stated the following;

Restricting analysis of fossils to specimens satisfying these criteria, patterns of dental development of gracile australopithecines and Homo Habilis remain classified with African apes. Those of Homo erectus and Neanderthals are classified with humans.189

Spoor, Wood and Zonneveld also studied a Homo habilis specimen, namely Stw 53, and found out that "Stw 53 relied less on bipedal behavior than the australopithecines." This meant that the H. habilis specimen was even more ape-like than the Australopithecus species. Thus they concluded that "Stw 53 represents an unlikely intermediate between the morphologies seen in the australopithecines and H. erectus."191
This finding yielded two important results:

1. Fossils referred to as Homo habilis did not actually belong to the genus Homo, i.e., humans, but to that of Australopithecus, i.e., apes.

2. Both Homo habilis and Australopithecus were creatures that walked stooped forward-that is to say, they had the skeleton of an ape. They have no relation whatsoever to man

nice try again

again i will repeat this, the oldest actual human fossil not ape found is 160 000 years old

 

[CalcuoCuchicheo]

homo erectus and homo habilis are not human, they are poorly defined species and too difficult to identify or date, many scientists have said that there are numerous features in which they differ from homosapiens , and some said that they are more of an ape-like creatures since they had alot of common characteristics with apes, they had long arms and short legs and an ape like skeletal structure, its fingers and toes were suitable for climbing, their jaw was very similar to that of today's apes. In short, Homo habilis, which you presented as humans speices was in reality an ape species just like all the other australopithecines. nice try tho,



nice try again

again i will repeat this, the oldest actual human fossil not ape found is 160 000 years old

When was the last time that something was discovered that proved religion to be more than just a controlling superstition?

 

[Glockmatic]

If 1470 (first Homo Habilis skull found) was an ape, it would be a truly extraordinary one. The brain is far larger than that of any ape, with the possible exception of extremely large male gorillas. The braincase is far more rounded and gracile than that of any ape, and the brain has a human rather than an apelike pattern (Tobias 1987).

But hey, scientists think differently on whether homo habilis was more human or more ape. Still doesn't disprove evolution though.

 

[hussain4891]

If people did start exposing themselves to the cold temperatures then those with more body hair would survive and those without body hair would not. Over time, natural selection would occur and people in that area would be hairier, or at least more adapted to colder temperatures.

Thats all well and good but it doesnt answer the question why have we gone backwards (ie loosing the thick hair on our bodys the our "ancestors" have) a human cant survive outside in cold weather without any clothes unlike or as much as an ape or a chimp can. So why have we evolved backwards to the conditions we live in? If 10 people walked around the streets of ukraine, russia, iceland etc for a week who have a different amount of body hair it wouldnt make any diffrence because there is only slight diffrences in body hair from one person to another they would all be affected by cold and most probably all drop dead.

Also is a white man more evolved than a blackman? Did we all evolve at the exact rate and time. And how come every single human can be told apart even identical twins have there diffrences, no one person looks exactly the same. Lastly how come there are no apes currently halfway through the evolution period or going through it currently. I dont want to offend your beliefs just curious.

 

[Glockmatic]

Thats all well and good but it doesnt answer the question why have we gone backwards (ie loosing the thick hair on our bodys the our "ancestors" have) a human cant survive outside in cold weather without any clothes unlike or as much as an ape or a chimp can. So why have we evolved backwards to the conditions we live in? If 10 people walked around the streets of ukraine, russia, iceland etc for a week who have a different amount of body hair it wouldnt make any diffrence because there is only slight diffrences in body hair from one person to another they would all be affected by cold and most probably all drop dead.

Our brains allow us to adapt, even Neanderthals knew to wear furs to keep warm in colder areas. Humans came from Africa, and spread out from there.

Also is a white man more evolved than a blackman? Did we all evolve at the exact rate and time. And how come every single human can be told apart even identical twins have there diffrences, no one person looks exactly the same. Lastly how come there are no apes currently halfway through the evolution period or going through it currently. I dont want to offend your beliefs just curious.

A white man and a black man are both the same, EVERY human is the same, like i said above we all came from africa and spread from there. We're each different because of our genes, and every animal is going through the evolution process, its a long process so we don't know how far along the process is going in any animal, maybe a gorilla is evolving right infront of us but we can't watch them for a few thousand years to see what they'll turn into.

 

[hussain4891]

Our brains allow us to adapt, even Neanderthals knew to wear furs to keep warm in colder areas. Humans came from Africa, and spread out from there.



A white man and a black man are both the same, EVERY human is the same, like i said above we all came from africa and spread from there. We're each different because of our genes, and every animal is going through the evolution process, its a long process so we don't know how far along the process is going in any animal, maybe a gorilla is evolving right infront of us but we can't watch them for a few thousand years to see what they'll turn into.

But doesnt every animal know when its feeling cold or hot to seek shelter from the cold weather or heat, so our brains seem to be the same when it concerns this, illuminattile said we would evolve to adapt to the changing climate if thats the case people in cold countrys should still have all that hair on there bodies while people in hot climates should have shed it. The evolution process must be on going so we should see animals or gorillas evolving or half evolved we dont need to wait thousands of years to see because thousands of years have past before us already?

 

[Glockmatic]

We lost all our body hair in africa, places like Russia was un-inhabitated by humans at the time. Evolution only happens when the certain species NEEDS it, after the Ice Age there were many animals that could not evolve fast enough to survive the changing climate and became extinct. Since we learned to wear animal furs to keep warm (therefore not needing our primative genes of body hair), we don't need to evolve for that.

The evolution process must be on going so we should see animals or gorillas evolving or half evolved we dont need to wait thousands of years to see because thousands of years have past before us already?

There were no documents of jungle animals until very recently, so we don't know how they were back then and if they evolved from then.

 

[TecK NeeX]

You should probably read up on evolution before trying to talk about it. We didn't evolve from monkeys. Monkeys and humans both evolved from the same thing. You're also assuming that all creatures should evolve into humans, which is also erroneous. Natural selection.

What benefit would having one eye give us? If we needed to evolve to adapt to a changing climate, then we would. Over time.

natural selection cannot enable new organs or traits to emerge in living things. natural selection cannot develop a species' genetic data therefore, it cannot be used to account for the emergence of new species. you talk as if this natural selection is an intelligent designer, natural selection has no intelligence. It does not possess a will that can decide what is good and what is bad for living things. as a result, natural selection cannot explain biological systems and organs that possess the feature of "irreducible complexity". these systems and organs are composed of a great number of parts cooperating together, and are of no use if even one of these parts is missing or defective. for example, the human eye does not function unless it exists with all its components intact

the will that brings all these parts together should be able to foresee the future and aim directly at the advantage that is to be acquired at the final stage. Since natural selection has no consciousness or will, it can do no such thing. this fact, which demolishes the foundations of the theory of evolution, also worried Darwin, who wrote: "If it could be demonstrated that any complex organ existed, my theory would absolutely break down."

the greatest defender of the theory of punctuated equilibrium, Stephen Jay Gould, refer to this impasse of natural selection as follows;

The essence of Darwinism lies in a single phrase: natural selection is the creative force of evolutionary change. No one denies that selection will play a negative role in eliminating the unfit. Darwinian theories require that it create the fit as well.17

 

[TecK NeeX]

If God had sent down his message clearly to the first humans, then they would have passed it on to their children and so on, and people wouldn't have started inventing Gods to explain things they didn't understand.

it was very clear but like i said before there are always the wicked and selfish among them, deliberately distorted the true message out of their mutual ill will or to satisfy their greed. sometimes the more powerful one has the last say for example what the Romans and st paul did to Jesus' true message much after his death

Of course you're not going to see a creature evolve into something else because it takes millions of years. When was the last time you saw God?

you cant compare the 2, the definition for both differ in many ways, while evolution takes place on earth God is Unseen, unherd (except for those who he choses, i.e prophets) not until the afterlife, it would contradict God, Judgement day, heaven, hell and the point of this life would all fail if all of the sudden God appeared to all of us