What is your idea of the afterlife?

#42
I believe in reincarnation.I believe that those who sinned so much in their life come back handicapped, or with something to remind them of what they had done in their other life, except that they come back as somebody else.
 
#43
simple... before you were born there was nothing... when you die there will be nothing...

its basically -

before life and being born - nothing

after being born theres - life

after life theres - death

after death theres - nothing

so you are basically back to where you started in the first place nothing...
 
#44
devils_advok8 said:
I believe in reincarnation.I believe that those who sinned so much in their life come back handicapped, or with something to remind them of what they had done in their other life, except that they come back as somebody else.
So you have no sympathy for those with disabilities or diseases?

I really can't understand that mentality.
 
#45
devils_advok8 said:
I believe in reincarnation.I believe that those who sinned so much in their life come back handicapped, or with something to remind them of what they had done in their other life, except that they come back as somebody else.
lol so i guess brad pitt mustve done somethin awfully right in a previous life.
 
#47
Illuminattile said:
So you have no sympathy for those with disabilities or diseases?

I really can't understand that mentality.
Please tell me where I mentioned not having any sympathy for those with disabilities or diseases?All I said that if there was anything like coming back re-incarnated, then myopinion is that those disabled or diseased in their after life had sinned in their previous life.It wasnt mentioned anywhere in the Quran btw, just to clear things of your mind, as I see that you started jumping to conclusions already.
 
#48
I believe we are nothing but data stacked up in our brain, when the heart stops, the data is cleared and we are gone, since "We" consist of nothing but diffrent data wich forms our personality.

i want to believe theres something, but my logic says theres nothing.

the only thing im wondering is how the fuck the brain handles being dead, i mean there must be some kind of brain activity/seconds/minutes/hours after we die, how would this shutdown feel/look like for us??? a display of memories?, brightfull colors? or flying through a tunnel? :D

anyone in here that has some kind of knowledge on how long brain activity there is after we die??
 
#49
devils_advok8 said:
Please tell me where I mentioned not having any sympathy for those with disabilities or diseases?All I said that if there was anything like coming back re-incarnated, then myopinion is that those disabled or diseased in their after life had sinned in their previous life.It wasnt mentioned anywhere in the Quran btw, just to clear things of your mind, as I see that you started jumping to conclusions already.
my dad died 3-4 months ago, he had diabetics, had lost one leg, all his toes, some fingers, a kidney, and problems with the heart... althrough he went through all of that shit, he still maintained and was one of greatest personalities ive ever been around, and thats not just because he was my dad, he had the ability to enlighten your day when you had speaked with him, others felt like that to, he wasnt the only one punished when he left, people tend to forget that when speaking about religions, because they seem to focus on the one hit, when 100+ where affected by this...

was he a shitty person once 1532 years ago or what?? and what about his personality?? he gets that back in the next life or what??? and how can he remeber if he was a bad or a good person?? who informed him of that??? i cant remember someone told me, when i died last time.

so what your saying is, if im nice as fuck to other people now, all i gotta do is sit on my fat bum the next time im born and everything well get right??? BS
 
#50
Minardi said:
my dad died 3-4 months ago, he had diabetics, had lost one leg, all his toes, some fingers, a kidney, and problems with the heart... althrough he went through all of that shit, he still maintained and was one of greatest personalities ive ever been around, and thats not just because he was my dad, he had the ability to enlighten your day when you had speaked with him, others felt like that to, he wasnt the only one punished when he left, people tend to forget that when speaking about religions, because they seem to focus on the one hit, when 100+ where affected by this...

was he a shitty person once 1532 years ago or what?? and what about his personality?? he gets that back in the next life or what??? and how can he remeber if he was a bad or a good person?? who informed him of that??? i cant remember someone told me, when i died last time.

so what your saying is, if im nice as fuck to other people now, all i gotta do is sit on my fat bum the next time im born and everything well get right??? BS
you people are missing my point, my grandmother (dad's side) died from diabetes and she had all her toes cut, she was a great person whom I never met, I'd give half my life away just to get to see her for a day.It was nothing personal man, it wasnt directed at neither your later father (RIP) or my late grandmother.I was just giving my opinion.I wasnt even talking about those who got diseased later on in their lives, I was talking about those who were born diseased.
 
#51
im just thinkin... its crazy how there is an earth, a solar system or anything like this... i mean, ho wthe fuck did anything ever start and there must of been a start, what im trying to say is...

how the fuck did anything, and i mean like... the first thing ever, i dont know what that is start...

which leads to my next thought.. i think i got to deep in this but, perhaps there is nothing really here, perhaps it is a mentality?

still, as for the death thing... as i was born, i was said to be dead, but some how the doctors bought me back... so why should i have gone then, something to do with what happened in a previous life? perhaps it was some 'gods' way of sayin we dont need no more, get the fuck outta here and stoped me breathin... since im not religious, i just think it's pure luck and skill from the docs that im still here, but why i came out not breathin... thats just bad luck... nothin 2 do with what happened in a previous life
 
#52
Roaddogz said:
im just thinkin... its crazy how there is an earth, a solar system or anything like this... i mean, ho wthe fuck did anything ever start and there must of been a start, what im trying to say is...

how the fuck did anything, and i mean like... the first thing ever, i dont know what that is start...
The truth is, the universe is mind boggling and the deeper you think about the more confusing it is
 
#53
devils_advok8 said:
Please tell me where I mentioned not having any sympathy for those with disabilities or diseases?All I said that if there was anything like coming back re-incarnated, then myopinion is that those disabled or diseased in their after life had sinned in their previous life.It wasnt mentioned anywhere in the Quran btw, just to clear things of your mind, as I see that you started jumping to conclusions already.
But how can you have sympathy for someone who was obviously an evil person in a previous life? They must be the same, evil person deep down, otherwise it wouldn't be a punishment at all. You said how your grandmother was a great person, but by your rationale she must have been an evil person in a previous life. How can you be a completely different person from one life to the next? And if you are, why do you deserve to be punished for what you did in a previous life if you now had nothing to do with that?

Do you understand what I'm saying?

devils_advok8 said:
I wasnt even talking about those who got diseased later on in their lives, I was talking about those who were born diseased.
Oh, well that's OK then...


If giving someone a disability or disease at birth is punishment for a previous life, what is the rationale behind giving them a disability or disease later in life?
 
#54
devils_advok8 said:
you people are missing my point, my grandmother (dad's side) died from diabetes and she had all her toes cut, she was a great person whom I never met, I'd give half my life away just to get to see her for a day.It was nothing personal man, it wasnt directed at neither your later father (RIP) or my late grandmother.I was just giving my opinion.I wasnt even talking about those who got diseased later on in their lives, I was talking about those who were born diseased.
i know you wasnt, and i wasnt taken offence, im just saying how i dissagree on it...

we can now see in our genes if someone in our family had disabilities.
we can now choose and pick out a baby without disabilities, by looking at genes... if everyone did that, would it mean that each and every person born this way was perfect in his/her last life??
 
#55
CalcuoCuchicheo said:
The truth is, the universe is mind boggling and the deeper you think about the more confusing it is
And that's one of the many reasons people like a nice, easy answer like creationism and intelligent design. People don't like things to be outside their realm of understanding.
 
#56
devils_advok8 said:
I wasnt even talking about those who got diseased later on in their lives, I was talking about those who were born diseased.
Some people are BORN with these disabilities, but they break out later in thier lives...
 
#58
Illuminattile said:
But how can you have sympathy for someone who was obviously an evil person in a previous life? They must be the same, evil person deep down, otherwise it wouldn't be a punishment at all. You said how your grandmother was a great person, but by your rationale she must have been an evil person in a previous life. How can you be a completely different person from one life to the next? And if you are, why do you deserve to be punished for what you did in a previous life if you now had nothing to do with that?

Do you understand what I'm saying?


Oh, well that's OK then...


If giving someone a disability or disease at birth is punishment for a previous life, what is the rationale behind giving them a disability or disease later in life?
fair enough.
that was a good question, I understand where you and minardi are coming, but the way I see it is just I just cant accept the fact that the disabled and diseased havent done anything to actually deserve what has happened to them, Allah aint forgetting noone.I either see them as being happier than us, sinned in their after life or actually have a "reserved seat" in heaven.In other words, there's either something good waiting for them after Judgement day or it's cause they've done wrong in their other life, that's if there really was something such as the afterlife.
 
#60
Minardi said:
I believe we are nothing but data stacked up in our brain, when the heart stops, the data is cleared and we are gone, since "We" consist of nothing but diffrent data wich forms our personality.

i want to believe theres something, but my logic says theres nothing.

the only thing im wondering is how the fuck the brain handles being dead, i mean there must be some kind of brain activity/seconds/minutes/hours after we die, how would this shutdown feel/look like for us??? a display of memories?, brightfull colors? or flying through a tunnel? :D

anyone in here that has some kind of knowledge on how long brain activity there is after we die??
The brain is still alive for at least 30 minutes after death.(its still giving signals)
 

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