Errors in the Quran

#61
Illuminattile said:
Hang on, it takes 1,000 years for God to send down his affairs to earth? Ignoring the fact that God is GOD, and should be able to do everything instantaneously, how could he have possibly sent the Qu'ran down in just 22 years?
You didn't understand the statement. It is not talking about the period of time it takes to send down the affairs. It says that the interval is 1 000 years, meaning that every millenium the affairs are sent down at the start of the millenium to govern the remainder of the millenium until the next affairs are sent down. Nevertheless, keep in mind this is one interpretation.
 
#62
Jokerman said:
There are no errors in the Qur'an because there are no facts in the Qur'an.:p

So, really, both sides are right and wrong at the same time. Just think about it. The Qur'an is not a book of science; it's not a book of history; it's not a book of astronomy; it's not a book of math; it's not a cookbook; it's not a book on the history of cruci-fiction or non-fiction; and etc. That's not the intentions of it. So there's no point in holding anything in it up to those standards. Just as there's no point in defending things in it by those standards. To even say there are facts in the Qur'an is to reduce it to a mere textbook. And to say there are errors in it is to misunderstand it.

I think the Qur'an is profoundly true, but not factual. This doesn't take anything away from it. It's true as metaphorical or symbolic narrative.

Buddhists often speak of the teaching of the Buddha as "a finger pointing to the moon." The metaphor helps guard against the mistake of thinking that being a Buddhist means believing in Buddhist teaching--that is, believing in the finger. As the metaphor implies, one is to see (and pay attention to) that to which the finger points.

To apply the metaphor to the Qur'an, the Qur'an is like a finger pointing to the moon. Muslims sometimes make the mistake of thinking that being Muslim is about believing in the finger rather than seeing the Muslim life as a relationship to that which the finger points.

To use another metaphor, the Qur'an is like a lens. There's a crucial difference between believing in the lens and using the lens as a way of seeing that which is beyond the lens.
You're right that the Qur'an is not a history book, science book, etc. It is a book of guidance from the Creator. But you are incorrect if you believe that the Qur'an is entirely metaphorical as you have not understood the wide range of themes and topics presented therein.
 
#63
Illuminattile said:
Hang on, it takes 1,000 years for God to send down his affairs to earth? Ignoring the fact that God is GOD, and should be able to do everything instantaneously, how could he have possibly sent the Qu'ran down in just 22 years?
???
Quran 32:5 said:
He rules (all) affairs from the heavens to the earth: in the end will (all affairs) ascend to him on a Day, the space whereof will be (as) a thousand years of your reckoning.
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Nowhere in this verse does it denote that it is talking about God 'sending down affairs'.

He rules (all) affairs from the heavens to the earth
He has power over all things, celestial and terrestial!

in the end will (all affairs) go up to Him
in the end refers to the end of time (judgement day) when all affairs with ascend to him

on a Day, the space whereof will be (as) a thousand years of your reckoning
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and the time taken for the ascension of everything (this could include many things, ascension of all affairs) will feel likea thousand years to us. We will comprhend it like its taking a thousand years. Time we knows is relative, so to say 'of which your reckoning' is a scientifically correct term to use rather than, it will be a thousand years long.
 
#64
hussain4891 said:
You didn't understand the statement. It is not talking about the period of time it takes to send down the affairs. It says that the interval is 1 000 years, meaning that every millenium the affairs are sent down at the start of the millenium to govern the remainder of the millenium until the next affairs are sent down. Nevertheless, keep in mind this is one interpretation.
:confused:
 
#65
not really ken said:
Nowhere in this verse does it denote that it is talking about God 'sending down affairs'.
From the link posted by hussain;
"This verse mentions that the affairs/commands of God descend to earth and return to Him, this period being one thousand years of our reckoning again. This period could mean that the interval of time for God to send commands to earth is 1000 years."
 
#68
Rukas said:
The Quran says that Mary the mother of Jesus was the sister of Moses. Mary is obviously not Moses' sister, she was alive 1500 years later.
I don't know if this has been pointed out already, but in the Story of (having to reference the Bible) Genesis, many of the people like Noah and his family, lived well over 500 years a piece. This being the case, I could see it quite possible that Mary was Moses sister, for I have no indication as to when they were born, or how old when passing away.
 
#69
Yeshua said:
I don't know if this has been pointed out already, but in the Story of (having to reference the Bible) Genesis, many of the people like Noah and his family, lived well over 500 years a piece. This being the case, I could see it quite possible that Mary was Moses sister, for I have no indication as to when they were born, or how old when passing away.
You're trying to make the claim seem more reasonable by claiming Moses lived for 500 years?
 

Glockmatic

Well-Known Member
#70
Yeshua said:
I don't know if this has been pointed out already, but in the Story of (having to reference the Bible) Genesis, many of the people like Noah and his family, lived well over 500 years a piece. This being the case, I could see it quite possible that Mary was Moses sister, for I have no indication as to when they were born, or how old when passing away.
well then case closed!
 
#71
Yeshua said:
I don't know if this has been pointed out already, but in the Story of (having to reference the Bible) Genesis, many of the people like Noah and his family, lived well over 500 years a piece. This being the case, I could see it quite possible that Mary was Moses sister, for I have no indication as to when they were born, or how old when passing away.
Ahhh there we have it!

I knew we where somehow related to turtles!
 
#72
Yeshua said:
I don't know if this has been pointed out already, but in the Story of (having to reference the Bible) Genesis, many of the people like Noah and his family, lived well over 500 years a piece. This being the case, I could see it quite possible that Mary was Moses sister, for I have no indication as to when they were born, or how old when passing away.
lol...

i never heard about noah or anyone surviving for 500 years. And I/m pretty sure that's not the Quran's point of view.

however, it's not noah, but his counterpart in Babylonian legends (in the Epic of Gilgamesh), Uta Napishti, who was granted eternmal life by the gods for surviving the Deluge.
 
#74
Khaled said:
lol...

i never heard about noah or anyone surviving for 500 years. And I/m pretty sure that's not the Quran's point of view.

however, it's not noah, but his counterpart in Babylonian legends (in the Epic of Gilgamesh), Uta Napishti, who was granted eternmal life by the gods for surviving the Deluge.
According to the quran noah lived longer then 500 years, and among giants if i remember correct... With my logic sense i would assume this to be atleast 1 error in the quran.
 
#75
Illuminattile said:
You're trying to make the claim seem more reasonable by claiming Moses lived for 500 years?
It says so in Genesis, and in that period humans lived a Looooooooooong time.

The specific age at which Noah and his relatives died, is stated, and all contain at least 3 digits. Not having the exact ones here with me now, but I remember reading it.

Check out this I found:
http://www.thesignpost.org/noah-txt.html

It seems logical to say that because of this, there is more chance of the relation between Mary - Moses.
 

Glockmatic

Well-Known Member
#78
Jokerman said:
Faith allows it. If you believe, then it happened.:horny:
ah, i thought it was magical dinosaur meet that made you young, and when they all were eaten people started dying out at an earlier age. The faith theory is BRILLIANT
 

Jurhum

Well-Known Member
#79
Glockmatic said:
ah, i thought it was magical dinosaur meet that made you young, and when they all were eaten people started dying out at an earlier age. The faith theory is BRILLIANT
A person who can't spell "meat" correctly, certainly can not comprehend the complexity of God's creation.
 

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