Boycott Denmark & Norway

PuffnScruff

Well-Known Member
#42




are these the pics?


it has always been my understanding that political cartoons are ment to be offensive
cartoons political and non are made all the time about all types of religions. but you dont see christians, jews, or any other religion getting their thongs in a bunch. its just a cartoon.

seriously some people need to pull their skirts up:thumb:
 

Shahin

Active Member
#43
Anyways, Jylland-Posten has apologized now. My take on this whole thing is that Jyllands-Posten was in the wrong for publishing these pictures, they can't be too ignorant to know that they would offend muslims. However, i think the boycott was a bad way to handle this, muslims should have taken the high road and simply expressed their disgust. Boycotting Danish companies that had nothing whatsoever to do with the charicatures wont solve anything, and demanding an apology from the government is also pointless since the government wasn't involved either. The government condemned Jyllands-Posten for what they did, and they should, but that's all they can do.
 

Shahin

Active Member
#44
PuffnScruff said:

are these the pics?


it has always been my understanding that political cartoons are ment to be offensive
cartoons political and non are made all the time about all types of religions. but you dont see christians, jews, or any other religion getting their thongs in a bunch. its just a cartoon.

seriously some people need to pull their skirts up:thumb:[/QUOTE]
The thing is that they wanted charicatures of only Muhammad, singling out a group that is already taking a lot of heat n Denmark. They also did this knowing that even drawing an image of Muhammad is considered very disrespectful, imagine how offensive a charicature is.
It was nothing short of an attack on Islam.
 

PuffnScruff

Well-Known Member
#45
Shahin said:
The thing is that they wanted charicatures of only Muhammad, singling out a group that is already taking a lot of heat n Denmark. They also did this knowing that even drawing an image of Muhammad is considered very disrespectful, imagine how offensive a charicature is.
It was nothing short of an attack on Islam.
islam and arabic nations all over are in the news all the time now. that is a fact. it is also a fact that political cartoons poke fun of what is going on in the world today.

i just saw a cartoon image of god and jesus on a family guy episode. omg:eek: i guess i should boycott fox...and seth mcfarlane even though they make me laugh:confused:
 

Shahin

Active Member
#46
PuffnScruff said:
islam and arabic nations all over are in the news all the time now. that is a fact. it is also a fact that political cartoons poke fun of what is going on in the world today.

i just saw a cartoon image of god and jesus on a family guy episode. omg:eek: i guess i should boycott fox...and seth mcfarlane even though they make me laugh:confused:
If it offended you, you should. But I guess we see things differently, to me it seems like Jyllands-Posten basically did this with the intention to offend muslims. IMO they deserve to be condemned for that.
 
#47
Pittsey said:
Duke has a point. Why hold a country responsible because it allows freedom of speech.
Freedom of speech ha? :rolleyes:

The funny thing is that if anything happend and you trying to run away from you just label it under FREEDOM OF SPPECH. Insulting out beloved Prophet is not a freedom of sppech. Never was and never will be. Let's forget about the fuckin Danish for a while. How about Norway? do you know when did they repost them nasty drawings? It was at the day that Muslims celebrate there Holiday (Eid). It clearly shows the hate toward Muslims. I remember what a Scottish friend told me "I never knew that we were arrogant closed minded tell i left my home".
 

PuffnScruff

Well-Known Member
#48
arabic187 said:
Freedom of speech ha? :rolleyes:

The funny thing is that if anything happend and you trying to run away from you just label it under FREEDOM OF SPPECH. Insulting out beloved Prophet is not a freedom of sppech. Never was and never will be. Let's forget about the fuckin Danish for a while. How about Norway? do you know when did they repost them nasty drawings? It was at the day that Muslims celebrate there Holiday (Eid). It clearly shows the hate toward Muslims. I remember what a Scottish friend told me "I never knew that we were arrogant closed minded tell i left my home".
no, your wrong. insults fall under freedom of speech. just because it offends you and you do not like it, does not mean it's not freedom of speech. or in this case, freedom to draw whatever the fuck they want.
 
#49
PuffnScruff said:
no, your wrong. insults fall under freedom of speech. just because it offends you and you do not like it, does not mean it's not freedom of speech. or in this case, freedom to draw whatever the fuck they want.
Ok then i guess that we need to express ourselfes without anybody stoping us right?

Then Bin Laden and his crew have the right to do what they want to do coz it's FREEDOM OF ACTION.
 

PuffnScruff

Well-Known Member
#50
arabic187 said:
Ok then i guess that we need to express ourselfes without anybody stoping us right?

Then Bin Laden and his crew have the right to do what they want to do coz it's FREEDOM OF ACTION.
just because they can and have done what they want to do, doesn't mean they are right in their actions. i wouldnt call it freedom of action. maybe murder would be correct word to use.

you might want to copyright "freedone of action" your the first person i have ever seen say that.:laugh:
 
#51
PuffnScruff said:
just because they can and have done what they want to do, doesn't mean they are right in their actions. i wouldnt call it freedom of action. maybe murder would be correct word to use.

you might want to copyright "freedone of action" your the first person i have ever seen say that.:laugh:
If Insults to more than 1.3 Billion is considered freedom of speech then why not Consider what Bin laden's do as a freedom of action?
 
#52
I just heard that they found a burned body of 1 on of those pigs who drawed our Prophet infront of the News papers building and the Danish goverment is trying to hide that. Not sure if it's true or not though
 
#53
RFTP said:
"Muslims are just waiting for the right moment to kill us" Mogens Camre, MP, Fremskridspartiet (The progress party)
That wouldnt surprice me he said that

RFTP said:
"Certain people pose a security risk solely because of their religion, which means that they have to be placed in internment camps" inge Dahl Sörenssen, MP, Venstre (Denmark's Liberal Party)
Yeah that sparkled alot of debate at the time, she was clowned on alot by theose statements.

RFTP said:
"If you try to legislate your way out of these problems [Muslim organisation] it is a historical rule that RATS always find new holes, if you cover up the old ones" Poul Nyrup Rasmussen, MP, Socialdemokratiet (The social democrats)
Was "[Muslim organisation]" in the original sentence? i think not.
Its an old qoute used by plenty of other people, that Rats find new holes, new ways to trick the system.... Rats as in criminals.

To think Poul Nyrup would say that against Muslims is just stupid, since he was all for immigration and actually led the Party that ruled before Venstre came to power.

RFTP said:
These quotes are prior to the electio 20 november in 2001. The name of the article is; "The emergence of Neo-nationalism in Denmark, 1992-2001" by Peter hervik Ph.d in anthropology.

If you don't find this funny, funny as in a tragic way.
EVERY country in this world have loose nuts, but how does that mirror the general Danish opinion? because you have been told by Harvik? If you searched for loose nuts in other countries you would find similar qoutes i, bet you.

RFTP said:
It's not about SOME loose nuts, this is actually what THE MAJORITY voted for.

"November 2001 neo-nationalism had become the decisive factor [...]Surveys further revelaed that more tne 80 percent of Danes welcomed neo-nationalist calls for a tougher policy towards foreigners in denmark" (Morfenavisen Jyllands-posten 2001; Hervik and Jörgensen).
Like i stated Venstre won the election because the Danish people wanted better integration, and lower immigration. Because some journalist labels it neo-nationalist doesnt make it right.
 
#54
arabic187 said:
I just heard that they found a burned body of 1 on of those pigs who drawed our Prophet infront of the News papers building and the Danish goverment is trying to hide that. Not sure if it's true or not though
In the middle of Copenhagen??? i find that very hard to believe...

I also find it funny that someone who feels political cartoons is an insult, throws out an insulting remark on someone he supposedly heard has been killed.
 
#55
arabic187 said:
If Insults to more than 1.3 Billion is considered freedom of speech then why not Consider what Bin laden's do as a freedom of action?
Ok so in your thick skull, killing innocent people can be justified as "If they can draw pictures of Muhammed, then its ok to kill innocent people"

I dont get that logic.
 
#56
RFTP said:
No it doesn't, it also clearly states that the right can be withdrawn under differnet circumstances, such as threat for your own life etc. It's the same rule that apply all kind of rights, they can be withdrawn whenever it's neccesary (which is why we have police and a court of law etc)
Ofcourse it can be withdrawn, it wouldnt make sense the other way around.
 
#57
PuffnScruff said:




are these the pics?


it has always been my understanding that political cartoons are ment to be offensive
cartoons political and non are made all the time about all types of religions. but you dont see christians, jews, or any other religion getting their thongs in a bunch. its just a cartoon.

seriously some people need to pull their skirts up:thumb:
Personally I'm NOT offended by those pics, but you and I have no right to say to someone when to feel offended or not. And obviously, alot of people have been feeling rather "incomfort" judging by the response these pictures gave.
 
#58
RFTP said:
Personally I'm NOT offended by those pics, but you and I have no right to say to someone when to feel offended or not. And obviously, alot of people have been feeling rather "incomfort" judging by the response these pictures gave.
Also... Alot of the reason why it has been blown out to what it is now, is because the Imams here have been out telling lies.

i just saw how an Imam was showing pictures that werent even posted in jyllands posten, and he was saying that pictures wich are MUCH worse are being posted in Danish newspapers everyday. But well, he supports Sharia, so i guess its ok for him to lie to help his religion :rolleyes:
 
#59
PuffnScruff said:
no, your wrong. insults fall under freedom of speech. just because it offends you and you do not like it, does not mean it's not freedom of speech. or in this case, freedom to draw whatever the fuck they want.
i understand freedom of speech, but think about that, would you allow someone to publish naked pictures of your mother just because it's freedom of speech?? (don't get offended, i m just making a point)
 

Pittsey

Knock, Knock...
Staff member
#60
arabic187 said:
Freedom of speech ha? :rolleyes:

The funny thing is that if anything happend and you trying to run away from you just label it under FREEDOM OF SPPECH. Insulting out beloved Prophet is not a freedom of sppech. Never was and never will be. Let's forget about the fuckin Danish for a while. How about Norway? do you know when did they repost them nasty drawings? It was at the day that Muslims celebrate there Holiday (Eid). It clearly shows the hate toward Muslims. I remember what a Scottish friend told me "I never knew that we were arrogant closed minded tell i left my home".
I didn't really mean what I meant. I wasn't really thinking as I was typing.

I agree that the article was wrong and offensive to Muslims. But this shouldn't in return create a hatred of Danish people or their country. It was the work of 1 person and 1 magazine.

Personally I have too much drama in my life to worry about what someone says in a magazine.

But if it is as you say. Posted on Eid, then it does show a racism in my opinion. But you can't judge a country by a minority of it's people. Just like all Muslims shouldn't be judged because of 911.
 

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