Boycott Denmark & Norway

[Khaled]

i for once was happy with these cartoons
i know that there's a muslim sect very powerful in Norway and Danemark (Al-Ahbash) which are the worst kind of muslims you can ever hear of. I don't know if the danish ppl here on the board eer heard of them, but they have some convictions that make these cartons make them look like saints.
for example, the woman cannot sleep next to a wall, because a "wall"
in arabic is a masculin word, so it will be a sin, as in, she's sleeping with man other than her husband... and i m not making this up

 

[Minardi]

immigrants?

Im interested in knowing your background alittle.
Have you lived here? Been kicked out, or what?

You seem to really hate Danes, there must be some sort of reason for this:thumb:

 

[Duke]

If 1.3 Billion Muslims (not only Arabs) Boycotted Norway and Denmark not only by stop buying the products but by stop all business with the 2 countries. That will make a big deffrence.

But not all 1.3 billion muslims are going to do that. The majority won't even have acces to Danish product.

Denmark's main export partners are mostly Germany, Sweden, the UK, the US, Holland, Norway and France. In order of importance.

Now, maybe some Danish products get transported further down south and end up in Arab countries. Maybe then. Maybe some muslims in the UK or Germany or here will decide not to buy the Danish butter this week.


If anything at all, a miniscule dip may be evident in food exports. Not more.

Really, i can't believe I'm reading this. the people behind Jyllands would make great blueprints for cloning morons

Fuck Denmark, fuck Norway, the citizens of both countries can suck my big fat brown Middle Eastern dick, calling them nazis, white supremacist racist motherfuckers would be an insult to nazis and supremacists and even known racists. Every danish and norwegian including women and children deserve no less than a bullet in between their eyes, and if they're lucky enough their bodies should be fed to the pigs.

BREAKING NEWS!

The newspaper Teck NeeX-Posten had not intended to insult the people of Denmark and Norway when he published the post in TB

That was useless.


1, one, uno, een, einz, ONE newspaper in Denmark publishes some political cartoons (which aren't supposed to be for entertainment anyway) that can be slightly offensive to Muslims.


The results? The whole Muslim world reacts as if every Western country has just declared war on the Muslim faith.



REALLY, stop being a:

 

[Minardi]

Not to forget the background on the pictures!

A man who wanted to write a book about Muhammed, but couldnt get any artists to help him because they where afraid. Jyllands Posten then decided to test wether or not freedom of expression and speech was being threatened by muslims in our country... The rest speaks for itself doenst it?

 

[RFTP]

Im interested in knowing your background alittle.
Have you lived here? Been kicked out, or what?

Thank God that I never lived there and I never will. I live in malmö tho and as you may know it's only 20 min away from cph.

You seem to really hate Danes, there must be some sort of reason for this:thumb:

Well where to start? For a quick summary, read Peter Herevik about the danish (rightwinged)populism. Oh, and he is dane alright so he is not only talkin shit about danes. I also had the honor of having him in some of my lectures in my college. He told us some really really nasty thing and I came to belive that you are alot more extreme then the ones you call "terrorists".

 

[LL COOL PAC]

it would have been better you never came back..

i second this

 

[Duke]

Thank God that I never lived there and I never will. I live in malmö tho and as you may know it's only 20 min away from cph.



Well where to start? For a quick summary, read Peter Herevik about the danish (rightwinged)populism. Oh, and he is dane alright so he is not only talkin shit about danes. I also had the honor of having him in some of my lectures in my college. He told us some really really nasty thing and I came to belive that you are alot more extreme then the ones you call "terrorists".

Hello, there are extremists everywhere.

 

[Minardi]

Thank God that I never lived there and I never will. I live in malmö tho and as you may know it's only 20 min away from cph.

Hahaha Malmø is probably more Danish then Swedish, Danes move over there to get lower taxes, bills and cars. Remember Skåne was Danish, and has been Danish even longer then Swedish, and lots of the people livin there still wants to be Danes. So if its the mentallity of the Danes you hate so much, then you probably need to move abit north

Well where to start? For a quick summary, read Peter Herevik about the danish (rightwinged)populism. Oh, and he is dane alright so he is not only talkin shit about danes. I also had the honor of having him in some of my lectures in my college. He told us some really really nasty thing and I came to belive that you are alot more extreme then the ones you call "terrorists".

Give some examples on how extreme we are, instead of shooting with empty shells? A few years ago Denmark let in about 20000 every year, the countries population is at about 5½-6 million people, and the leaders at the time couldnt handle immigrating, wich is clearly shown on crime rates, and welfare support. Thats why Venstre won the election in november 2001, the Danish people where fed up and wanted better integration, wich led to some stricter laws. I assume its some of those laws you have something against?

And how nasty are we? even Hizb-ut-Tahir is a legal organisation over here, wich is blacklisted in other european countries.

 

[RFTP]

Hello, there are extremists everywhere.

That's funny, then how come I haven't seen ONE SINGLE topic that brings this issue up? I man, I'm readin so much about islamic extremists and stuff yet I never hear anything about denmarks policy etc? This world has so many hypocrits they make it funny!

 

[RFTP]

Hahaha Malmø is probably more Danish then Swedish, Danes move over there to get lower taxes, bills and cars. Remember Skåne was Danish, and has been Danish even longer then Swedish, and lots of the people livin there still wants to be Danes. So if its the mentallity of the Danes you hate so much, then you probably need to move abit north

Yes it's true, which also explains why malmö is the most segregated city in Sweden, a pity ain't it?

Give some examples on how extreme we are, instead of shooting with empty shells?

You know very well what I'm talking about, you live in the country and you couldn't possibly missed it all could you? First of, the 88 (note the number too!) pages about how immigrants and muslims generally are rats and mices that's here to take over denmark, to start with. The crucifixion of Ali the somali that was "hanged" cause he took to much subsidies and later on the newspapers wrote all bullshit in the world that "we" are here to populate so we can get money from your goverment. This coming from a SUPPOSED developed nation, from a nation that you'd think would be more liberal. You're naive if you actually think that you are less extremist then islamic ones. The only difference between you and them is that they have a clear enemy while your enemy is more of ambiguous

A few years ago Denmark let in about 20000 every year, the countries population is at about 5½-6 million people, and the leaders at the time couldnt handle immigrating, wich is clearly shown on crime rates, and welfare support.

Cut the crap! Your views about immigrants goes earlier then "a few years ago". This is not a new phenomena in denmark and I see that you're not very familiar with it, in which cases I suggest you pick an article from Peter hervik who is a very insightful person I must add!

Thats why Venstre won the election in november 2001, the Danish people where fed up and wanted better integration, wich led to some stricter laws. I assume its some of those laws you have something against?

Nah, not the laws per se as it goes beyond that. Like I said, this goes beyond a few years, it's your recent HISTORY, history from 1990 and onwards.

And how nasty are we? even Hizb-ut-Tahir is a legal organisation over here, wich is blacklisted in other european contries.

Well, writing 88 pages (also demonstrate heil hitler with the numbers) is pretty nasty for a supposed DEMOCRATIC (or whatever you wanna call it) country.

 

[Pittsey]

That was useless.


1, one, uno, een, einz, ONE newspaper in Denmark publishes some political cartoons (which aren't supposed to be for entertainment anyway) that can be slightly offensive to Muslims.


The results? The whole Muslim world reacts as if every Western country has just declared war on the Muslim faith.

Duke has a point. Why hold a country responsible because it allows freedom of speech.

 

[RFTP]

Duke has a point. Why hold a country responsible because it allows freedom of speech.

2 things that needs to be understood here.

One is that these drawings weren't done for any other purpose then to mock the islamic world. And if you read my previous post you'd understand abit about denmark policy when it comes to immigrants and muslims specifically.

The other thing is that freedom of speech doesn't mean that you can violate and "hunt" a group of people for what/who they believe in. there was a similiar thing happening in the capital city of sweden, stockholm, a year ago. there was an artshow that depicted jesus as homosexual and people took offence to that and threw rocks and stuff.

The argumen "free speech" is pretty daft cause obviously there is a line to draw on what's free speech and what's not. You can't defend everything with "what happened to free speech"

 

[Minardi]

You know very well what I'm talking about, you live in the country and you couldn't possibly missed it all could you? First of, the 88 (note the number too!) pages about how immigrants and muslims generally are rats and mices that's here to take over denmark, to start with. The crucifixion of Ali the somali that was "hanged" cause he took to much subsidies and later on the newspapers wrote all bullshit in the world that "we" are here to populate so we can get money from your goverment. This coming from a SUPPOSED developed nation, from a nation that you'd think would be more liberal. You're naive if you actually think that you are less extremist then islamic ones. The only difference between you and them is that they have a clear enemy while your enemy is more of ambiguous

Please, give some quotes from it to back your statements up.

Because some loose nuts have thier full right to say what they want in our county about something, that doenst mean that the general opinion here is like that, it seems like you assume that. I think the person you mention is Mogens Glistrup, yes he has said alot shit.

Cut the crap! Your views about immigrants goes earlier then "a few years ago". This is not a new phenomena in denmark and I see that you're not very familiar with it, in which cases I suggest you pick an article from Peter hervik who is a very insightful person I must add!

Ohh is it so? the socialist party had the power pre 2001. When Venstre won the election it was for the first time in 30 years, wich was followed by stricter laws on immigrants.

Nah, not the laws per se as it goes beyond that. Like I said, this goes beyond a few years, it's your recent HISTORY, history from 1990 and onwards.

Like i said. the socialist where letting in 20000 people every year and couldnt handle the amount, wich led to higher crime rates, and bad integration. And like said, it was the reason why venstre won the election, the Danish people where fed up.

Well, writing 88 pages (also demonstrate heil hitler with the numbers) is pretty nasty for a supposed DEMOCRATIC (or whatever you wanna call it) country.

Yeah and we where never on the moon, the US invented AIDS to kill black people, and the Jews produced the Black Plague.

 

[Minardi]

The other thing is that freedom of speech doesn't mean that you can violate and "hunt" a group of people for what/who they believe in. there was a similiar thing happening in the capital city of sweden, stockholm, a year ago. there was an artshow that depicted jesus as homosexual and people took offence to that and threw rocks and stuff.

The argumen "free speech" is pretty daft cause obviously there is a line to draw on what's free speech and what's not. You can't defend everything with "what happened to free speech"

Actually it does... However, there are racistic and religious laws here to prevent that.

 

[RFTP]

Please, give some quotes from it to back your statements up.

No problem, however this is from a compendium so I can't give you any link, however if you stil ldon't believe then I will take a photo of my compandium and you can then see for yourself.

some of the quotes;

"Muslims are just waiting for the right moment to kill us" Mogens Camre, MP, Fremskridspartiet (The progress party)

"Certain people pose a security risk solely because of their religion, which means that they have to be placed in internment camps" inge Dahl Sörenssen, MP, Venstre (Denmark's Liberal Party)

"If you try to legislate your way out of these problems [Muslim organisation] it is a historical rule that RATS always find new holes, if you cover up the old ones" Poul Nyrup Rasmussen, MP, Socialdemokratiet (The social democrats)

These quotes are prior to the electio 20 november in 2001. The name of the article is; "The emergence of Neo-nationalism in Denmark, 1992-2001" by Peter hervik Ph.d in anthropology.

If you don't find this funny, funny as in a tragic way.

Because some loose nuts have thier full right to say what they want in our county about something, that doenst mean that the general opinion here is like that, it seems like you assume that. I think the person you mention is Mogens Glistrup, yes he has said alot shit.

It's not about SOME loose nuts, this is actually what THE MAJORITY voted for.

"November 2001 neo-nationalism had become the decisive factor [...]Surveys further revelaed that more tne 80 percent of Danes welcomed neo-nationalist calls for a tougher policy towards foreigners in denmark" (Morfenavisen Jyllands-posten 2001; Hervik and Jörgensen).

Yeah and we where never on the moon, the US invented AIDS to kill black people, and the Jews produced the Black Plague.

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If you want to play smartass then do so, but don't invite me to the party. If you don't BELIEVE in what I say, LOOK IT UP. You will be dissapointed though

 

[RFTP]

Actually it does... However, there are racistic and religious laws here to prevent that.

No it doesn't, it also clearly states that the right can be withdrawn under differnet circumstances, such as threat for your own life etc. It's the same rule that apply all kind of rights, they can be withdrawn whenever it's neccesary (which is why we have police and a court of law etc)

 

[Duke]

2 things that needs to be understood here.

One is that these drawings weren't done for any other purpose then to mock the islamic world. And if you read my previous post you'd understand abit about denmark policy when it comes to immigrants and muslims specifically.

They are political cartoons.

The other thing is that freedom of speech doesn't mean that you can violate and "hunt" a group of people for what/who they believe in. there was a similiar thing happening in the capital city of sweden, stockholm, a year ago. there was an artshow that depicted jesus as homosexual and people took offence to that and threw rocks and stuff.

Political cartoons do not hunt or violate groups of people.

The argumen "free speech" is pretty daft cause obviously there is a line to draw on what's free speech and what's not. You can't defend everything with "what happened to free speech"

Yes you can. As long as "everything" is contained to drawings, statements or other expressions of opinion ,then yes.

 

[RFTP]

They are political cartoons.

That violates a certain group of people.

Political cartoons do not hunt or violate groups of people.

Yes it does. If someone has hitler as a cartoon printed on a t shirt he would still violate other.

Yes you can. As long as "everything" is contained to drawings, statements or other expressions of opinion ,then yes.

But making a statement bears consequences, if the consequence is that a large (or small, doesnt really matter)group of people feel hunted for their religion/political affiliation then the law has the right to withdraw your rights of "freedom of speech". Freedom of speech is not the only law, we have laws that respects our privacy, but this right can be withdrawn if the authority thinks that you're violating a certain rule. The thing with laws, human rights is that they also g against eatch other, like in the case of freedom of speech (for instance, where do you draw the line?) but that's why there are "exceptions" as I mentioned.

 

[TecK NeeX]

it would have been better you never came back..

Hey internet boy stay on topic, you of all Tupacboard lifers should know that

i second this

and while you're at that, you might as well second my reply to Bereal

That was useless.

yeah that was useless, but not nearly as useless as the statement made by Jyllands saying they're intention was not to offend Muslims, that was beyond stupid and into a whole new realm of idiocy. It was an obvious attack against Islam, Why Islam of all religions? why not draw pictures of all religious figures from all known religions? Denmark and Norway are christian countries, why not draw offensive pictures of the present dominant religion and see how they react?

That's also just about as useless as drawing a picture of a black man on his knees blowing a white dude with a smile on his face and his thumbs up saying "niggers love to suck cock" then, a day later release an article saying "it was not meant to offend the black population"

When black comedians get up on stage and poke fun at white people, how do they avoid outrage from the white race? by following his white jokes with black jokes.

i really can't believe that i have to go this far to get this shit through some you

1, one, uno, een, einz, ONE newspaper in Denmark publishes some political cartoons (which aren't supposed to be for entertainment anyway) that can be slightly offensive to Muslims.

How exactly do you know that it can slightly offend Muslims? are you Muslim? Can I, a Muslim know how a devout Bhuddist feels like after coming across a defaced, vandalized statue of Bhudda? of course not and neither can you. you're a nobody, so i suggest you lay off your wishful thinking of 'knowing everything'

The results? The whole Muslim world reacts as if every Western country has just declared war on the Muslim faith.

Wow are you the same duke from before? you were alot brighter several months back, do you expect the drawings to offend a portion of the Islamic population? Again, until you're a Muslim you haven't got the slightest idea of how offensive those drawings are, OK? dont come in here throwing your 'as ifs' like you know where we stand on the drawings of prophets etc. Also, we're not reacting 'as if' every western country has declared war on the Muslim faith, just a couple of them

Duke has a point. Why hold a country responsible because it allows freedom of speech.

Yeah well, the President of Iran had every right to give his opinion regarding the holocaust by calling it a myth. so then why did the whole western world condemn his remarks? Is he not qualified to practice freedom of speech that you people so love to flaunt?

how about all countries start practicing their freedom of speech by insulting each other, belittle each others culture, religion and way of life, that will surely result in a world wide peace that we so crave, fantastic way of building bridges to understand and learn about the so many different cultures and religions.

 

[PuffnScruff]