Are you blind, Chistians

[Valeoz]

Hm, read the Bible some more. You'll learn what the word of God is, it has nothing to do with a book. And you're confusing 'words of the Lord' and 'word of God'. Word of God deals with spirituality.

Words of of the Lord literally means words, of course. But it cannot reference the Bible for the sole fact the Book of Psalms was written centuries before the Bible. The Old Testament and New come from completely different timelines, it wasn't all created on the same day. You have to take note of that, because you're starting to get obnoxious. It feels like you just keep throwing stuff into the argument just because it refutes while having no idea what you, yourself, is talking about. Please make your posts more meaningful and concrete. My entertainment for this thread dropped really low.

 

[W210]

Why don't they? People used to believe in Norse Gods, people now believe in the Christian God...what's the big difference?

If you can dismiss other Gods, why can't you understand how atheists can dismiss your God?

People used to believe in Norse gods ok, but not until after people believed in the real God, and never to the extent of the real God. He isnt somthing new. I can dismiss all false gods, not the real God, see the difference.

The difference is, Christians look at the Bible and then look at the facts. Since they believe the Bible to be infallible, their interpretation of the facts is biased. If the facts contradict the Bible, the facts are wrong.

Kinda, we see the facts as supporting the Bible, while you guys are the exact opposite, you will look at the facts but only in your own way.

 

[W210]

they have just the same amount of credibility as any religion. They have their own stories of how they were created and the miracles that happened.

You cant possibly believe that, that is ridiculous. No where near the amount of credibility.

“The WORDS OF THE LORD are pure words: as silver tried in a furnace of earth, purified seven times. Thou shalt keep them, O LORD, thou shalt PRESERVE them from this generation FOREVER.” Psalm 12:6,7

1. God is not the author of confusion. (1 Cor. 14:33)

2. There are 33,830 different Christian denominations, most claiming the Bible as the source of their differing dogmas, proving that the Bible is very confusing.

3. Therefore, God is not the author of the Bible.

Ha, I dont know where you come to that conclusion. But the answer is, in your post, God is not the author of confusion, man is.

 

[Glockmatic]

People used to believe in Norse gods ok, but not until after people believed in the real God, and never to the extent of the real God. He isnt somthing new. I can dismiss all false gods, not the real God, see the difference.

What about Hindus? There are over a billion believers of a religion with multiple dieties, how do you dismiss them?

You cant possibly believe that, that is ridiculous. No where near the amount of credibility.

the bible has a book and the norse didn't, thats more credibility?

Ha, I dont know where you come to that conclusion. But the answer is, in your post, God is not the author of confusion, man is.

god created man
man is confusing
god created confusion

previously you wrote that the bible was the most accurate book of its kind, but if man is the author of confusion why do you consider it the most accurate?

 

[Sign Related]

I dont buy Jesus rising from the dead anyway. I know there is a higher power, but it aint God of any of these religions or definitions by any means.

What does that make me? Am I an atheist or not?

 

[Glockmatic]

that would make you an agnostic

 

[W210]

What about Hindus? There are over a billion believers of a religion with multiple dieties, how do you dismiss them?

There is only one God. Period

the bible has a book and the norse didn't, thats more credibility?

Wouldnt you agree? Besides it not that we have a book, its that we have the written word of God, thats somthing no other can claim.

god created man
man is confusing
god created confusion

previously you wrote that the bible was the most accurate book of its kind, but if man is the author of confusion why do you consider it the most accurate?

Actually God created a perfect world without sin or confusion. Man is the one who sinned and brought it in the world.

 

[marc]

God is almighty. God created a perfect world, yet man disobeyed God (like the devil).
Therefore God knew he would be deceived. Therefore he wanted to be deceived. Why?
Every religion has the same credibility, as long as you cant disprove their claims.

I do believe in divine beings, but what exactly does classify something/someone as GOD ? Is it their power, or rather their USE of such power.

You decide.

edit:

At the end of the day, it doesnt matter if you believe in (a) God or not, as long as you stay true and are a good-hearted person.
Thats what I try to be. Keep my karma on the light side.. If God decided to put me in hell for not believing the Christian ideology, fine. Then Ill be glad to fight along with my demon brothers against a tyran.
On the other hand, should God be what most believe him to be, he wont care that I didnt read the bible or follow the church.

 

[Glockmatic]

There is only one God. Period

Thats no proof that hinduism is wrong, just like me saying "There is no god, period" isn't proof to you

Wouldnt you agree? Besides it not that we have a book, its that we have the written word of God, thats somthing no other can claim.

Because something is written down does not give it more credibility

Actually God created a perfect world without sin or confusion. Man is the one who sinned and brought it in the world.

but god still created man who sinned, so he created sin. It sounds like you think this world was created 6000 years ago

 

[W210]

Thats no proof that hinduism is wrong, just like me saying "There is no god, period" isn't proof to you

Yea I was a little lazy on that one, I only had a 10 minute break. Well there will never be proof to give me one ounce of doubt that there isnt a God. But I have probably witnessed things that you may not have. I have felt his presence, and witnessed things that are nothing short of miracles. I just know with all my being that God is there. And I know that man made false gods are not where its at.

Because something is written down does not give it more credibility

I would say it gives it more credibility, but the fact that were talking about the Bible, thats all most people need. What I mean here: http://www.christiananswers.net/q-eden/edn-t003.html

but god still created man who sinned, so he created sin. It sounds like you think this world was created 6000 years ago

I dont think that God created sin. God created man, who he gave the ability to create sin. Man created sin, God is perfect and rightous. And yes there is loads of evidence to support the young earth.

 

[Glockmatic]

And yes there is loads of evidence to support the young earth.

how old do you think the earth is?

 

[W210]

how old do you think the earth is?

I think you were close. Pretty sure they guess 8 to 10,000 years.

 

[Valeoz]

Pretty sure they guess 8 to 10,000 years.

That's ridiculous. Do you know that humans lived in Eygpt before 8000 B.C.? I'm curious of your evidence.

 

[marc]

So how could you find dinosaurs if the earth is so young?

 

[Sebastian]

I dont think that God created sin. God created man, who he gave the ability to create sin. Man created sin, God is perfect and rightous. And yes there is loads of evidence to support the young earth.

Ok, lets say God created the possibility to commit a sin - and therefore he created sin

Young earth..????

 

[Glockmatic]

So how could you find dinosaurs if the earth is so young?

dinosaur bones were put there by god to fool us into not believing in him!!

 

[Jokerman]

So how could you find dinosaurs if the earth is so young?

It's a trick of the devil. Get with the program, son.

 

[Glockmatic]

Ok, lets say God created the possibility to commit a sin - and therefore he created sin

Young earth..????

right, i understand people saying that god created man (even though i don't believe in it), i can't believe people ignoring science to such a degree that they think the earth is under 10,000 years old. Thats like fat people saying being fat is not unhealthy

 

[W210]

right, i understand people saying that god created man (even though i don't believe in it), i can't believe people ignoring science to such a degree that they think the earth is under 10,000 years old. Thats like fat people saying being fat is not unhealthy

There is a bunch of evidence to support it. Moreso than the earth being a billion years old, the reason thats taught so much is because evonlutionists need that much time to support their side. One thing I can think of right off the top of my head is the decay of the moons orbit. They have been measuring the decay for years and it is consistant, and they did the math and if the earth is as old as they say it is they the moon would be overlapping with the earth.

Oh, another thing is the rotation of the earth is slowing down, I guess at a rate that they can measure, and if you do the math on that one, a billion years ago or however, the earth would be spinning so fast that everythin on it would be thrown off, and the earth wouldnt be round it would have flattend out like a pancake.

There is more but thats all I can remember right now. Most of the information that we get on age is from carbon dating, which is known to be heavily flawed. They dated living snails to be 12,000 years old.

 

[W210]

dinosaur bones were put there by god to fool us into not believing in him!!

And I think in Job there is somthing about God killing off the dinosaurs, Ill have to check on that though.