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Letter to my Unborn OG

Bender

Bender

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Jul 16, 2005
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Has the same melody as I Wonder If Heaven Got A Ghetto???

also ...



Toss It Up OG, and I Ain't Mad At Cha - are both sampled on some Blackstreet beats???


Sorry If this has been mentioned Before,it was one of those cases where I've heard this somewhere before. I knew of the I aint mad at cha sample for a long time
 
Devious said:
well the Toss It Up OG was produced by Dre before he left DR. when he did he took the beat and gave it to Blackstreet. so it's not a sample, it's the same beat, maybe tweaked a bit.
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Toss It Up was released on a promo CD in its original format. It only had one verse and the beat was different to the released version. In fact, in its original form the song was a lot more similar to Blackstreet's song. They both made enhancements to the music track before putting it out though. I also think Dre produced it along with Teddy Riley, and it was mostly Riley's work, but I may be mistaken there. The promo CD is of course ultra rare, but that's where the rip comes from. The promo also had an instrumental rip.

Daz Dillinger produced I Ain't Mad At Cha and Dre/Riley produced the other, so I think it's just a case of two artists coincidentally sampling the same track.
 
Preach said:
Toss It Up was released on a promo CD in its original format. It only had one verse and the beat was different to the released version. In fact, in its original form the song was a lot more similar to Blackstreet's song. They both made enhancements to the music track before putting it out though. I also think Dre produced it along with Teddy Riley, and it was mostly Riley's work, but I may be mistaken there. The promo CD is of course ultra rare, but that's where the rip comes from. The promo also had an instrumental rip.

Daz Dillinger produced I Ain't Mad At Cha and Dre/Riley produced the other, so I think it's just a case of two artists coincidentally sampling the same track.
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lol well of course it's different than the album version since Dre produced it. it would be pretty funny if Pac had all the Dre disses on a track that Dre produced. after Dre left they redid the beat and Pac added the second verse.
 
Toss It Up and No Diggity are both sampled from Bill Withers' song "Grandma's Hands".

I Ain't Mad At Cha and Don't Leave Me are both sampled from Debarge's song "A Dream".

I was under the impression that Teddy decided to use the Debarge sample in a sort of retaliation for what happened with Toss It Up/No Diggity.
 
Devious said:
lol well of course it's different than the album version since Dre produced it. it would be pretty funny if Pac had all the Dre disses on a track that Dre produced. after Dre left they redid the beat and Pac added the second verse.
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well actually, doesn't he make a point of that in the second verse or the outro? how he's kicking his ass over his own beat? anyway, like i said, i think teddy riley is the main contributor behind the beat anyway and dre like usual got more credit than were due, and that's more the point i tried to make as we were already talking about the song. just threw every bit of info i could think of in there :)
 
Casey Rain said:
I was under the impression that Teddy decided to use the Debarge sample in a sort of retaliation for what happened with Toss It Up/No Diggity.
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snap, actually, this may be what i (wrongfully) tried to explain. the original beat may be dre's, but whatever came out was heavily worked by teddy riley, dametrius ship and reggie moore.
 
The Dre/Blackstreet collabo makes sense. Dre obviously didn't get any credit for the Toss It Up release on Pac's Greatest hits. Dre isn't listed in the credits for I Ain't Mad At Cha either. It all sounds like a coincidence with regards to samples. It wasn't Dre's choice to use the sample on I Ain't Mad At Cha on AEOM, but it was his on the Toss It Up OG. Toss It Up was a Death Row release, yet Dre got no credit for it. Is this because of the 'beef' over Snoops case?


I would like to talk on Letter To My Unborn OG and it having the same melody as I wonder If Heaven Got A Ghetto. This wasn't Dre's work. Is this something Amaru cooked up?
 
Yeshua said:
The Dre/Blackstreet collabo makes sense. Dre obviously didn't get any credit for the Toss It Up release on Pac's Greatest hits. Dre isn't listed in the credits for I Ain't Mad At Cha either. It all sounds like a coincidence with regards to samples. It wasn't Dre's choice to use the sample on I Ain't Mad At Cha on AEOM, but it was his on the Toss It Up OG. Toss It Up was a Death Row release, yet Dre got no credit for it. Is this because of the 'beef' over Snoops case?


I would like to talk on Letter To My Unborn OG and it having the same melody as I wonder If Heaven Got A Ghetto. This wasn't Dre's work. Is this something Amaru cooked up?
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1. Somebody just said DAZ DILLENGER produced I Ain't Mad At Cha

2. You just came up with 2 or 3 random subjects that don't even deserve discussion. Snoops case and Toss It Up have nothin to do with eachother. Dre have nothing to do with Letter 2 My Unborn OG or I Wonder If...
 
^ so you are saying it was Daz who made the choice to sample A DREAM?

2) why else wouldn't DR give credit to Dre on this track? You know as well as I do Pac had beef with dre over the snoop case.

Nothing what you have said contributes to the Letter 2 my unborn/wonder if heven got a ghetto relation
 
man, Dre didn't get credit on Toss It Up because the beat was changed from the original, can you not hear that? they sound similar (Toss It Up OG/No Diggity and the Toss It Up album version) but they aren't the same. another producer (don't have Makaveli flap with me and can't remember who is credited for production on the album version) just made a slightly different beat. that is why Dre isn't credited on the Makaveli version, cuz he didn't produce it. it had nothing to do with Snoop. and Pac's beef with Dre was more to do with him getting credit for tracks he didn't produce than anything to do with the Snoop case. you have listened to Pac's interviews on the subject, right? this is common knowledge.
 
Yeshua said:
^ so you are saying it was Daz who made the choice to sample A DREAM?

2) why else wouldn't DR give credit to Dre on this track? You know as well as I do Pac had beef with dre over the snoop case.

Nothing what you have said contributes to the Letter 2 my unborn/wonder if heven got a ghetto relation
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1) Dre had nuthin to do with sampling Dream or any of the work of I Ain't Mad At Cha

2) I don't even know what your arguing. Letter and I Wonder HAVE NOTHING TO WITH DRE OR THA SNOOP CASE. Theres some commonly known info for ya right ther. GET A LIFE
 
Yeshua said:
I would like to talk on Letter To My Unborn OG and it having the same melody as I wonder If Heaven Got A Ghetto. This wasn't Dre's work. Is this something Amaru cooked up?
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i'm not saying this is the case, but amaru could well have made the remix to "i wonder..." without knowing what letter 2 my unborn og sounded like at the time. the way they do is give pac songs to producers, and then the producers do what they please with it and submit a finished product. amaru would then pick remixes from as many as 50 or so remixes, to go on the album. for still i rise they made 50 remixes. several were later used on uteot and bd, all out and happy home were two remixes from the sir batch.

at the same time, certain samples are more popular than others, and that sample has been used several times by several people. no one can give you a straight answer, but most likely it's just a coincidence.

edit: yes, amaru did remix the song before release. both versions on the album are remixes.
 
and it's not like it's unique for Pac to have used the same/similar beats and samples for different songs. case in point: Fuck All Y'all OG and My Niggaz have almost the exact same beat. same with Never Call U Bitch Again and Never B Peace OGs. i don't think it means much of anything.
 
Devious said:
and it's not like it's unique for Pac to have used the same/similar beats and samples for different songs. case in point: Fuck All Y'all OG and My Niggaz have almost the exact same beat. same with Never Call U Bitch Again and Never B Peace OGs. i don't think it means much of anything.
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Yea, and Temptations and Thug Passion and I Get Around share some Zapp & Roger sample
 
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