Dipset

#2
Yeah, I'm into Dipset. They seem to be pretty much over now though, with all the conflicting between Jim Jones and Cam'ron. I'm still waiting for a new Juelz album.
 

masta247

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#3
I like Camron and Juelz. I think they did some nice tracks and I listen to them from time to time but I'm not a fan.
 

Rukas

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#4
I kinda think Cam will fade away and Jim and Juelz will carry the reigns.

What happened with Max B I totally missed the gossip...
 

PuffnScruff

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#6
they have been done with for a minute now. anyone that has put out stuff from their camp has failed and gotten no success at all. even jim's last album flopped.
 

Rukas

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#8
Harlem's American Gangster was a mixtape.
And did pretty well.

Anybody that can afford to do high budget videos for mixtape tracks must be doing alright.

[YOUTUBE]YmLAVY_XdPc[/YOUTUBE]

Actually if anybody has this beat could you hook me up I cant seem to find it.
 

PuffnScruff

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#9
Harlem's American Gangster was a mixtape.
i said last album didn't i?

even though it, hustler's pome, sold less than 500,000 by todays standards for rappers that is low.

even american gangster did just over 50,000. if you consider going from the 19th spot the first week of release to 63 the 2nd doing well...then i guess standards have changed to accomodate a genre that is on life support when it comes to sales in the music industry
 

Rukas

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#10
i said last album didn't i?

even though it, hustler's pome, sold less than 500,000 by todays standards for rappers that is low.

even american gangster did just over 50,000. if you consider going from the 19th spot the first week of release to 63 the 2nd doing well...then i guess standards have changed to accomodate a genre that is on life support when it comes to sales in the music industry
At 500,000 sold with his Koch deal Jim made between $3million and $4million. 500,000 by todays standard is pretty good for an independent artist man. Most major artists doing a million sales and make less on major labels.

Gold is the new Platinum nowadays, especially if you on an independent deal.
 

PuffnScruff

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#11
i think selling 100,000 albums is good, even 50,000, but todays music industray standards, especially when it comes to rap music, that isn't good. todays music industry expects platinum albums from rappers.

i agree that he is doing well for an indi artist, but the majors have set the bar too high when it comes to the standards, indi or not. in return those standars that they, the major labels, have set due to being used to multi platinum selling artists, is part of what is hurting the rap music industry right now (amonst other things). they expect more and have set the bar too high.

20 years ago if you were a gold selling artist in any genre you were the greatest thing in the industry at the moment. now if you go gold nobody gives a shit.
 

Rukas

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#12
i think selling 100,000 albums is good, even 50,000, but todays music industray standards, especially when it comes to rap music, that isn't good. todays music industry expects platinum albums from rappers.

i agree that he is doing well for an indi artist, but the majors have set the bar too high when it comes to the standards, indi or not. in return those standars that they, the major labels, have set due to being used to multi platinum selling artists, is part of what is hurting the rap music industry right now (amonst other things). they expect more and have set the bar too high.

20 years ago if you were a gold selling artist in any genre you were the greatest thing in the industry at the moment. now if you go gold nobody gives a shit.
Im sorry but you are plain wrong, you're still living in the late 90s early 2000s if that is how you think the industry thinks and is.

Major artists are not going multiplatinum anymore, 1million sold is once again an achievement. Only the likes of Eminem or Dr. Dre would go multiplat, and even now if Em dropped he would probably only sell 3million if that, probably closer to 2 to be honest.

50 Cent hasnt even cracked 2 million with his last album he went about 1.4million. TI's last album went platinum, that is it. Soulja Boy, perhaps the most mainstream artist out there right now, has only sold 873,656 copies worldwide.

NOBODY is doing huge numbers right now like you say so you are really mistaken with how the game works right now. Albums are BARELY creeping into platinum status, and Gold is the new Platinum. 2 Million makes you a fucking phenomenon like Kanye West right now and buys you the most expensive tour EVER. Right now Kanye is acting like he's gone diamond and thats how the label and industry is treating him but he's barely done 2 million world wide.

Now to make up that money the majors are losing from the sales because random shit just isnt selling 3million units anymore off of one hot single like it used to, labels are forced to recoup their loses through ringtones and other bullshit like that, which is the reason music is so fucked up right now.

So Jim Jones sold half as many records as say TI, but probably made 3 times as much money. Not to mention the fact that his Ballin single made CRAZY money.

The music industry really is a lot different right now than you seem to think.
 

S O F I

Administrator
Staff member
#15
Co-sign Rukas on the rap music industry. Puff, you are living in the 90s and early 2000s. Rap records don't sell like they used to.

I like Dipset, they are entertaining and have good, catchy songs. They have fallen off lately and with the conflict, it looks like all we can rely on is solo efforts.
 

masta247

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Staff member
#20
I quite like it.

I have to say I'm quite in between liking them and not giving a fuck.

Comon linx, they had a few nice tracks. They're not the ones to spit wisdom but Juelz had a nice album "What The Game's Been Missing", and Cam'ron had "Come Home with Me".
They had mostly nice party tracks and I mean nice, better than Crunk and south stuff imo.
I'm bumpin hey ma till this day sometimes :p
 

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