Snoop knows what TIME it is!

Casey

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#1
Well, as everyone knows, I'm a massive fan of the funk group The Time, which if you don't know was a project Prince put together (producing and writing all the songs under an alias, publicly denying that it was him) in the early 80's in order for him to be able to release more music.

The first two albums by The Time are stone-cold funk classics. The self-titled one had jams like "Get It Up" - which was sampled by 'Pac on "Iz It Cool 2 Fuck" and covered by TLC for the Poetic Justice soundtrack. Their second album 'What Time Is It?" had tracks like "777-9311" which 'Pac again used for "Whatz Ya Phone #".

The original line-up of The Time split after the second album. Keyboardist Jimmy Jam and bass player Terry Lewis were fired by Prince for missing a show (they were in Atlanta working on what would be their first hit as producers, 'Just Be Good To Me' by the SOS Band).

As I'm sure some of you will know, Jam & Lewis went on to produce many hits, including becoming Janet's longtime producers. They are arguably the greatest producers of all time. (and were voted as such in a recent poll, beating out Quincy Jones, Dre, Premier, Teddy Riley, Gamble&Huff, Phil Spector and more).

Anyhoo, if you saw the Grammys last Sunday, you'd have seen the original line-up of The Time reunite and perform Jungle Love with Rihanna. This seems like good timing, because....

My second favorite jam of the first Time album, which I was blasting all day yesterday, is a jam called "Cool".

And I've just heard that a cover of "Cool" is to be Snoop's second single from Ego Trippin' and it's supposedly produced by Teddy Riley.

This is gonna be the hot shit :)

Here's the video to the original song if anyone is interested:

[YOUTUBE]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tb6Emdoij4U[/YOUTUBE]
 

Shahin

Active Member
#6
Co-signed

any one who thinks Sexual Eruption is whack is musically retarded, it makes me sick that so many people have become brainwashed to think only certain types of music are "cool".
Dude that's a shit song, that's all there is to it. There's no brainwashing conspiracy around it, the song just doesn't sound good.
 

S O F I

Administrator
Staff member
#7
Co-signed

any one who thinks Sexual Eruption is whack is musically retarded, it makes me sick that so many people have become brainwashed to think only certain types of music are "cool".
Just because the beat is reminiscent of a type of music that Militant jerks off to due to the sample or whatever, it does not make the song tight. The beat is tight, yes. However, I'm not down with the talk box thing or whatever, and his lyrics are as always, wack. Also, "sexual eruption". Very corny, he only pulls it off because he's well, snoop dogg and nobody tells snoop that "sexual eruption" as a description for sex and orgasm is straight corny and wack. It's like he got the phrase from Borat.

With all that said, I can see why people like it. It's catchy.
 

Prize Gotti

Boots N Cats
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#8
Dude that's a shit song, that's all there is to it. There's no brainwashing conspiracy around it, the song just doesn't sound good.
Just because the beat is reminiscent of a type of music that Militant jerks off to due to the sample or whatever, it does not make the song tight. The beat is tight, yes. However, I'm not down with the talk box thing or whatever, and his lyrics are as always, wack. Also, "sexual eruption". Very corny, he only pulls it off because he's well, snoop dogg and nobody tells snoop that "sexual eruption" as a description for sex and orgasm is straight corny and wack. It's like he got the phrase from Borat.

With all that said, I can see why people like it. It's catchy.
You both realise style of music was the foundation for hip hop? Snoop, despite his career, its brave to try that in todays industry, and he does it well, he has everything to a T. The video included.
 

Shahin

Active Member
#9
You both realise style of music was the foundation for hip hop?
Jamaican Djing is the foundation of hip hop so I don't know what you're on about. Not that it matters to the discussion though, even if this song gave birth to the whole hip hop scene it still wouldnt be a good song.

EDIT: Don't believe me listen to this or any of the other dub tracks from the early 70's with people toasting over them and tell me this isn't the foundation of hip hop.
 

Casey

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#10
'Sexual Eruption' is absolutely bad ass.

and Shahin - funk is just as important to the foundation of hip-hop as ragga/dancehall, if not more so.

Yes, the vocal stylings came from dancehall artists, but when Kool Herc started mixing music together on turntables to create a loop for the MC's to rap on, it wasn't ragga he was using, it was funk, specifically 70's funk such as James Brown and Parliament-Funkadelic.

The two most sampled songs in hip-hop, ever? James Brown's 'Funky Drummer', and Zapp & Roger's electro-funk classic "More Bounce To The Ounce".

Without funk there would be no hip-hop.
 

Shahin

Active Member
#11
'Sexual Eruption' is absolutely bad ass.

and Shahin - funk is just as important to the foundation of hip-hop as ragga/dancehall, if not more so.

Yes, the vocal stylings came from dancehall artists, but when Kool Herc started mixing music together on turntables to create a loop for the MC's to rap on, it wasn't ragga he was using, it was funk, specifically 70's funk such as James Brown and Parliament-Funkadelic.

The two most sampled songs in hip-hop, ever? James Brown's 'Funky Drummer', and Zapp & Roger's electro-funk classic "More Bounce To The Ounce".

Without funk there would be no hip-hop.
Yeah, there's no doubt funk was also very influential in creating hip hop, but Kool Herc himself has stated that he started out toasting over jamaican dancehall records so I tend to give more credit to it (but I guess I'm biased). But all this is besides the point, because wasn't downplaying the importance of funk, unless this snoop song is what passes for funk these days.
 

Casey

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#12
Just because the beat is reminiscent of a type of music that Militant jerks off to due to the sample or whatever, it does not make the song tight. The beat is tight, yes. However, I'm not down with the talk box thing or whatever, and his lyrics are as always, wack. Also, "sexual eruption". Very corny, he only pulls it off because he's well, snoop dogg and nobody tells snoop that "sexual eruption" as a description for sex and orgasm is straight corny and wack. It's like he got the phrase from Borat.

With all that said, I can see why people like it. It's catchy.
Firstly there's no sample. However the song is loosely based on Kleer's 'Intimate Connection'.

Second, it's not a talkbox. A talkbox is what Roger uses. Think California Love, if you've never heard any of Roger's music. That's a talkbox.

What Snoop is using here is just auto-tune plugin, maxed out. The same as what T-Pain does.

Thirdly, lyrically what the hell do you want, fucking Canibus or some shit? It's a feel good song, it bumps in the club. I don't want to hear amazing lyrics when I'm in the club, the fuck is the point.

At least know what you're talking about if you are going to try and cuss something.

Yeah, there's no doubt funk was also very influential in creating hip hop, but Kool Herc himself has stated that he started out toasting over jamaican dancehall records so I tend to give more credit to it (but I guess I'm biased). But all this is besides the point, because wasn't downplaying the importance of funk, unless this snoop song is what passes for funk these days.
Kool Herc did indeed do that, but he was fresh from Jamaica, and the cats living in the Bronx were hardly gonna start adopting fake patois accents and start listening to dancehall music.

Sadly, since hip-hop ironically killed the funk (by encouraging kids to just rap over other people's music rather than picking up instruments and creating their own original music), I'll take whatever funk-influenced stuff I can in this desolate shitty music climate. At least Snoop is aware of music history, unlike 99% of contemporary artists. Snoop's always been like that though, he's always given cats like Bootsy Collins, George Clinton and Charlie Wilson their due props.

I'm not expecting Snoop to pull the next "Computer Love" or "One Nation Under A Groove" out of the bag, but at least he's pushing the envelope here which is more than you can say for most.
 

Chronic

Well-Known Member
#13
You both realise style of music was the foundation for hip hop?
To the sound of Hip-Hop it was very important but the Jamaican roots are the absolute foundation. The MCs foundation is the toaster, despite the dozens, Gil Scott-Heron etc. An Americanized version of certain elements of reggae. Not to take away from the American influence though, Hip-Hop may be "worldwide" but it will always at its very core be American. And that's where funk and everything else comes in.
 

Da_Funk

Well-Known Member
#14
Just because the beat is reminiscent of a type of music that Militant jerks off to due to the sample or whatever, it does not make the song tight. The beat is tight, yes. However, I'm not down with the talk box thing or whatever, and his lyrics are as always, wack. Also, "sexual eruption". Very corny, he only pulls it off because he's well, snoop dogg and nobody tells snoop that "sexual eruption" as a description for sex and orgasm is straight corny and wack. It's like he got the phrase from Borat.

With all that said, I can see why people like it. It's catchy.
C0-signed. Sexual eruption is a fucking terrible song. It bumps in the club whatever, who gives a fuck, that doesn't mean its a good song. Like sofi said, he only pulls it off because he's snoop.
 
#15
When I First Heard Sensual Seduction, I Thought It Was Wack To...but Then It Became My Favorite! Have You Been In The Club When They Play It? Crazy!
 

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