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[Duke]

what did you think of St. Anger?

 

[Devious]

what did you think of St. Anger?

sucked. better than that Load (and Reload) of crap they came out with in the mid-late 90's, but it still sucked. the movie about the making of the album is better than the actual album lol. but my opinion is that everything they did after the Black album sucked, so my opinion may be biased. now if you want to talk about the 80's Metallica, i'm your man :thumb:

 

[Da_Funk]

sucked. better than that Load (and Reload) of crap they came out with in the mid-late 90's, but it still sucked. the movie about the making of the album is better than the actual album lol. but my opinion is that everything they did after the Black album sucked, so my opinion may be biased. now if you want to talk about the 80's Metallica, i'm your man :thumb:

He basically hit the nail on the head, pretty much everything after the black album is trash. The Black album is alright but imo its not even close to Metallica's best(Puppets). St. Anger was horrible, i'm embarassed to own it.

 

[Chronic]

Was alright. Compared to their old material it kinda sucked yea.

 

[Duke]

Why I ask? I've always liked Metallica but never "actively" owned their music (downloads (hehe), albums bought etc). Recently I borrowed by buddy's St. Anger cd and I think it's a very solid album. So I did the proper thing and bought it along with And Justice For All, figuring I'd give my old man a listen (he liked it ).
Now, even a blind golfball with 8 different debilitating diseases can spot the obvious difference between old Metallica and this, more or less self proclaimed, new Metallica.

So I'm wondering if the reason for a large part of Metallica's "original" fanbase to not like St. Anger has more to do with the fact that it's so different than the Metallica they know and love, and less with the idea that it's bad music. Because it may not be Metallica, St. Anger is a solid album. It's definitely not bad music.

If you think so I will come to your house and gangrape every 3rd person there (overcounts mean you get extra).

But really, do you not really like SA for it's differences or do you honestly think it's sucky music?

(I should've included a poll in this)

 

[Da_Funk]

Why I ask? I've always liked Metallica but never "actively" owned their music (downloads (hehe), albums bought etc). Recently I borrowed by buddy's St. Anger cd and I think it's a very solid album. So I did the proper thing and bought it along with And Justice For All, figuring I'd give my old man a listen (he liked it ).
Now, even a blind golfball with 8 different debilitating diseases can spot the obvious difference between old Metallica and this, more or less self proclaimed, new Metallica.

So I'm wondering if the reason for a large part of Metallica's "original" fanbase to not like St. Anger has more to do with the fact that it's so different than the Metallica they know and love, and less with the idea that it's bad music. Because it may not be Metallica, St. Anger is a solid album. It's definitely not bad music.

If you think so I will come to your house and gangrape every 3rd person there (overcounts mean you get extra).

But really, do you not really like SA for it's differences or do you honestly think it's sucky music?

(I should've included a poll in this)

I wouldn't say its because Saint Anger is terrible, no. It is ok music I guess. It's just NOT Metallica. Metallica is Ride the Lightning, And Justice for All, Master of Puppets. Metallica is NOT Load, St. Anger, Reload, The black album, etc. Dunno if this makes sense or not.

 

[hizzle?]

*Chants Enter Sandman*

 

[Duke]

I wouldn't say its because Saint Anger is terrible, no. It is ok music I guess. It's just NOT Metallica. Metallica is Ride the Lightning, And Justice for All, Master of Puppets. Metallica is NOT Load, St. Anger, Reload, The black album, etc. Dunno if this makes sense or not.

Nah, that's exactly what I meant. It's kinda like why I don't like Pacs posthumous releases.

has to be said, after listening Justice for all for a good week, I like it a tad more than St. Anger. But its very different. Frayed Ends of Sanity, Dyers Eve, awesome songs.

 

[Devious]

Nah, that's exactly what I meant. It's kinda like why I don't like Pacs posthumous releases.

has to be said, after listening Justice for all for a good week, I like it a tad more than St. Anger. But its very different. Frayed Ends of Sanity, Dyers Eve, awesome songs.

only a tad more? seriously? Justice is one of the most technically sound, amazing Metal albums ever made, and you think it's just "a tad" better than St. Anger? that's blasphemy to a Metallica fan!! :fury: :fury: :fury:

here's a treat for Metallica and Justice fans... while the reason for this is still in dispute, it's obvious to anyone with ears that the bass on the entire Justice album has been muted to almost near silence (some people say it was done intentionally to honor Cliff Burton, the previous bass player and possibly the best metal bass player ever, others say it was done to haze Jason, the "new guy", still others say that Jason was simply not there during the mixing sessions). but thanks to youtube, you can now hear the album with the bass added in! so here's my favorite Metallica song, The Frayed Ends Of Sanity, the way it was meant to sound:

[YOUTUBE]http://youtube.com/watch?v=UxPt-SwlAcI[/YOUTUBE]

all the songs from the album can be found there.

 

[Devious]

well, since i'm such a generous guy (even though there doesn't seem to be many Metallica fans on this board), here's a treat for you guys: demos!

Kill Em All Demos
note: Whiplash and No Remorse are the only 2 studio tracks available featuring both Dave Mustaine and Cliff Burton, as Dave was kicked out of the band about a month after Cliff joined. all other KEA demos feature Dave Mustaine on guitar and Ron McGovney on bass.

Whiplash
http://www.megaupload.com/?d=IOWBK2ZC

No Remorse
http://www.megaupload.com/?d=LHTQTUO5

The Mechanix (Four Horsemen with original lyrics by D. Mustaine)
http://www.megaupload.com/?d=0CLLJKV1

Metal Militia
http://www.megaupload.com/?d=ZLPVE0VA

Ride The Lightning Demos

Fight Fire With Fire
http://www.megaupload.com/?d=VEOWS8JP

Ride The Lightning
http://www.megaupload.com/?d=Y37LR5CG

Creeping Death
http://www.megaupload.com/?d=M6Y11VO9

Master Of Puppets Demos

Battery
http://www.megaupload.com/?d=WSZM5X6O

Master Of Puppets instrumental
http://www.megaupload.com/?d=YDPBYT6O

Disposable Heroes instrumental
http://www.megaupload.com/?d=WG0A6T4P

...And Justice For All Demos
note: the Justice demos are what i call the wa-na-na demos because most of the lyrics hadn't been written yet, so James sings wa-na-na vocals instead of lyrics on most songs.

Blackened
http://www.megaupload.com/?d=WLH66TY0

Eye Of The Beholder
http://www.megaupload.com/?d=1AIBUSJW

One
http://www.megaupload.com/?d=U9SIERQX

The Frayed Ends Of Sanity Instrumental
http://www.megaupload.com/?d=I140X7CR

Dyer's Eve
http://www.megaupload.com/?d=HNT3R6FJ


these are just some of the demos i have, if there's a song in particular that i didn't post that you want, let me know and i'll try to post it.

 

[Devious]

just to illustrate the change of sound in Metallica from past to present, here's 2 humorous live versions of Dyer's Eve and Trapped Under Ice. you can really notice a difference in James' voice here as compared to the album versions, especially on Trapped Under Ice. and it's hilarious because James keeps messing up the lyrics on Dyer's Eve.

Dyers Eve (Live 2004)
http://www.megaupload.com/?d=OGYU4Y0B

Trapped Under Ice (Live 2004)
http://www.megaupload.com/?d=Y2XD8AFC

 

[Duke]

I said i *liked* it a tad better, not that it only was a tad better. I agree that it's technically a masterpiece, song wise.

neat @ all the links. *gets to ah-downloadin*

 

[Devious]

I said i *liked* it a tad better, not that it only was a tad better. I agree that it's technically a masterpiece, song wise.

neat @ all the links. *gets to ah-downloadin*

the only negative thing about the Justice album is that they used so many time changes and riffs that they could have made like 5 more albums out of all of it. but instead they tried to cram every guitar riff known to man on one album, and somehow they managed to not only do it, but do it very well. masterpiece is the right word for that album. i just wish it had been produced better, the guitar and drums are way too loud, and almost no bass at all.

 

[Devious]

here's something i came across not too long ago, Metallica doing a live cover of Iron Man, they do it pretty well too. it's also pretty rare because they've only ever played it the one time.


http://www.megaupload.com/?d=CVRDM30U