Non-Urban Music Johnny Cash vs. Michael Jackson vs. Jerry Lee Lewis

Johnny Cash vs. Michael Jackson vs. Jerry Lee Lewis

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JOHNNY CASH​
Johnny Cash was one of the most imposing and influential figures in post-World War II country music. With his deep, resonant baritone and spare, percussive guitar, he had a basic, distinctive sound. Cash didn't sound like Nashville, nor did he sound like honky tonk or rock & roll. He created his own subgenre, falling halfway between the blunt emotional honesty of folk, the rebelliousness of rock & roll, and the world weariness of country. Cash's career coincided with the birth of rock & roll, and his rebellious attitude and simple, direct musical attack shared a lot of similarities with rock. However, there was a deep sense of history -- as he would later illustrate with his series of historical albums -- that kept him forever tied with country. And he was one of country music's biggest stars of the '50s and '60s, scoring well over 100 hit singles.

MICHAEL JACKSON​
Michael Jackson was unquestionably the biggest pop star of the '80s, and certainly one of the most popular recording artists of all time. In his prime, Jackson was an unstoppable juggernaut, possessed of all the tools to dominate the charts seemingly at will: an instantly identifiable voice, eye-popping dance moves, stunning musical versatility, and loads of sheer star power. His 1982 blockbuster Thriller became the biggest-selling album of all time (probably his best-known accomplishment), and he was the first black artist to find stardom on MTV, breaking down innumerable boundaries both for his race and for music video as an art form. Yet as Jackson's career began, very gradually, to descend from the dizzying heights of his peak years, most of the media's attention focused on his increasingly bizarre eccentricities; he was often depicted as an arrested man-child, completely sheltered from adult reality by a life spent in show business. The snickering turned to scandal in 1993, when Jackson was accused of molesting a 13-year-old boy; although he categorically denied the charges, his out-of-court settlement failed to restore his tarnished image. He never quite escaped the stigma of those allegations, and while he continued to sell records at superstar-like levels, he didn't release them with enough frequency (or, many critics thought, inspiration) to once again become better known for his music than his private life. Whether as a pop icon or a tabloid caricature, Jackson always remained bigger than life.

JERRY LEE LEWIS​
Is there an early rock & roller who has a crazier reputation than the Killer, Jerry Lee Lewis? His exploits as a piano-thumping egocentric wild man with an unquenchable thirst for living have become the fodder for numerous biographies, film documentaries, and a full-length Hollywood movie. Certainly few other artists came to the party with more ego and talent than he and lived to tell the tale. And certainly even fewer could successfully channel that energy into their music and prosper doing it as well as Jerry Lee. When he broke on the national scene in 1957 with his classic "Whole Lotta Shakin' Goin' On," he was every parents' worst nightmare perfectly realized: a long, blonde-haired Southerner who played the piano and sang with uncontrolled fury and abandon, while simultaneously reveling in his own sexuality. He was rock & roll's first great wild man and also rock & roll's first great eclectic. Ignoring all manner of musical boundaries is something that has not only allowed his music to have wide variety, but to survive the fads and fashions as well. Whether singing a melancholy country ballad, a lowdown blues, or a blazing rocker, Lewis' wholesale commitment to the moment brings forth performances that are totally grounded in his personality and all singularly of one piece. Like the recordings of Hank Williams, Louis Armstrong, and few others, Jerry Lee's early recorded work is one of the most amazing collections of American music in existence.
 

Casey

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#3
Michael. Without a doubt. I love Johnny and you can't underestimate where he took country music, but Michael is on another level to almost everybody else.

Quite possibly the most naturally gifted entertainer of all time, when it comes to his ability to pick things up and absorb. The way he uses his voice as an instrument that he picked up from James Brown, the way he moves inspired by the great dancers like Fred Astaire and Gene Kelly, the way he manipulates (not in a bad sense) every aspect of his own image to create this completely larger than life figure...the way he defined music videos, from Thriller, to Bad, Smooth Criminal (the best music video of all time, IMO), Black or White.........he is the ultimate superstar and always will be. There will never be a better definition of the word superstar, not a chance in hell. No matter how much the media try to tear him down - he has simply accomplished too much and is too talented for anything to stick.

I've been basically an absolutely obsessive Michael fan since I was a very small child - when most kids had videos of cartoons and disney movies - my very first video that I owned was "Moonwalker", which I've had since I was 3. I used to watch it on a daily basis for years and years. I've got a massive array of stuff including the original 1969 7" vinyl pressing of the first Jackson 5 single "I Want You Back" and much more. He's totally inspiring in so many ways. Watch the Motown 25 performance of Billie Jean and try not to be impressed....then imagine what people must have thought seeing that back in 1983 - for a lot of people it was a double whammy since it was the first time they had even heard "Billie Jean" as well.

I was lucky enough to catch the HIStory World Tour when he played at Wembley in 1997.....it was incredible. Still the greatest concert I've ever seen - although I know when I see Prince at the Millenium Dome in August that will give Mike a run for his money.

Everything I do musically, from tone, melody and cadence in my vocals, to my production, live performance, visual imagery, is influenced by Michael in one way or another.....you could never tell, since there's a whole bunch of other influences there as well. But I feel it.

MJ deserves to win this whole thing, for sure. There is simply no way you can ignore what he's done, it just can't be done.
 

Bobby Sands

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This is hard.Im gonna go for Johnny Cash ahead of MJ.I have alot of Michael Jackson's albums but there is a lot of his songs that i dont like to be honest.

Johnny Cash was able to make good music for so long,right up until his death whereas Michael Jackson was finished by the late 90's.Its definately Johnny Cash for me.
 

hizzle?

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#7
I like Cash better. But I dunno... what MJ has done in his private life is just too important so i just cant not consider it.
 

SicC

Dying Breed
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#10
J Cash is hands down the best of the three. MJ was bad ass but he can't touch Cash in my opinoin, jerry who...need I say more.

pz
 

Casey

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#11
J Cash is hands down the best of the three. MJ was bad ass but he can't touch Cash in my opinoin, jerry who...need I say more.

pz
Video debate time! I love Johnny Cash, but my favorite thing he ever did was his cover of nine inch nails "hurt" that he did before he died.

Johnny was bad ass. But he ain't fuckin with this:

[YOUTUBE]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rb8I8-dmAxs[/YOUTUBE]
 

PuffnScruff

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cash!

better than the other two by light years

i would encourage anybody to listen to his older music. he has a great catalog of songs. the stuff he did with rick rubin was amazing too. even the covers songs are great and i'm not just talking about "hurt"
 

Casey

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^^I agree.He was able to make good music over a longer period of time.
not really. Johnny was born in 1932 and didn't release anything until 1955, when he was 23 years old. He died at the age of 71 and was making music up till that point, so that's a 46-year career.

Michael was born in 1958, and the very very first Jackon 5 recording "Big Boy" came out on an independent Indiana label called Steeltown Records in 1967, when Michael was 9. This predates their Motown debut and what most people think was their first release "I Want You Back" by two years.

Michael is 49 years old this year - so he's had a 40 year career already of making excellent music.

For the sake of continuity, let's assume Michael dies at 71 like Johnny did and is still making music (which he will be).
If he does then he will have had a professional career of 62 years.

I love Johnny Cash, but to be reasonable here - Michael is a better all around performer, entertainer and musician and has without a doubt left a bigger imprint on the world of music. He has the legacy of having the biggest selling album of all time....and there's no-one that can take that away from him. There's simply no way any album will ever be that successful ever again.
 

SicC

Dying Breed
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#16
Cash owns Michael, plus your comparing apples to oranges, pop to clasic country/rock. There is no comparison.

Im not kissing that aliens ass no more he was a bad mofo back in the 70's and 80's but now he is insane.

Cash was a godamn rebel playing in prisons and talking politics in his music. mad props for doing everything they said he shouldnt do.

Only thing MJ does that he is not allowed to do is mess with little kids wee wee's. I don't care that he got aquitted, he only got aquitted due to who he is.

pz
 

Casey

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#17
Cash owns Michael, plus your comparing apples to oranges, pop to clasic country/rock. There is no comparison.

Im not kissing that aliens ass no more he was a bad mofo back in the 70's and 80's but now he is insane.

Cash was a godamn rebel playing in prisons and talking politics in his music. mad props for doing everything they said he shouldnt do.

Only thing MJ does that he is not allowed to do is mess with little kids wee wee's. I don't care that he got aquitted, he only got aquitted due to who he is.

pz
Michael does more than just pop - he has been a trendsetter in terms of mainstream artists embracing musical styles. Who else apart from Mike can redefine R'n'B music completely with a track like "Billie Jean" and then turn around and blow up the charts with a hard rock track like "Beat It" - calling in the biggest guitar god of the time, Eddie Van Halen, in for one of the best guitar solo's ever recorded?

Michael is diverse - he can do an amazing funk track, ballad, straight up pop, r'n'b, rock....he doesn't master loads of genres in the way that Prince does (since P produces and plays everything) - but MJ's ear for melody and sense of rhythm as a vocalist and dancer is possibly greater than any musical artist ever. In the 80's and 90's, a new MJ video was an EVENT. For most folks if you didn't see that shit you may as well kiss goodbye to your friends at school - MJ was the hottest shit more than any artist has ever been. I remember when "Black or White" premiered - I was really young but I remember it vividly. It was the only time that UK television played the FULL version - with that amazing ending where MJ smashed up the car, turned into a panther and walked off. They banned it after that, lol.

As Illu said....we're not talking about who is the nicer person. IIRC, Mr. Cash did some foul shit as well, was in and out of prison and most definitely shot a few folks. Personal life is irrelevant to this discussion.

Michael was a rebel too. First black artist to be played on MTV which at that time was a WHITE ONLY station. There was no black folks on MTV, at all, before MJ. And he constantly pushed the boundaries of what was acceptable, again nowhere near the degree Prince did but Michael was the bigger star for a long time and had more pulling power in terms of more people having exposure to what he did. He gambled with his whole audience and image when he started doing music videos like Thriller. MJ absolutely defined the music video concept to a degree that has not since been matched and probably won't be.

I also give Michael massive props because at probably the peak of his fame, he used his position to spread an anti-prejudice message, even though people didn't get it.

Jackson smashed car windows containing racist graffiti such as Nazi symbols and slander such as "wetbacks" written on the glass of the car windows and store windows, as well as a store window with "KKK RULES" emblazoned on it; Jackson then jumped on the car, grabbed his crotch and zipped his pants up, smashed a storefront window by throwing a garbage can at it, and began screaming in an enraged manner causing a building sign to collapse. This section caused such a negative reaction that Jackson was forced to announce a formal apology for its content. At the end of this short, Jackson stares on while "prejudice is ignorance" appears at the bottom of the screen in white text. The racist graffiti is not on the car or store windows in some versions of the video; it is blacked out because it is thought it may cause offense.

He is the absolute epitome of dancers as well. No matter how technically proficient, there is yet to be a dancer with the style and class of MJ. And every pop and r'n'b artist since, is trying to do something MJ did musically as well as trying to emulate his dancing. From Usher, Omarion, Chris Brown, Ne-Yo, Justin Timberlake, etc etc etc etc etc etc etc. All of them are straight wannabe Michael's.

His sense of timing when it comes to performance is absolutely flawless - and he choreographs it all himself. Watch this video - one of my all time top 5 MJ performances but not that well known. Every single motion and movement of MJ and his dancers here is on point and flawlessly matched to every kick, every snare drum. It's just too bad ass.

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_mU8QoZMVOU[/youtube]


MJ's hits are perfection in a club enviroment. I have yet to be in a club where the DJ dropped "Don't Stop Till You Get Enough", "Rock With You", "Billie Jean", "Wanna Be Startin Something", "Bad", "Smooth Criminal", "Remember The Time" etc etc etc and the whole crowd of the entire club got up and started dancing.
 
#18
As Illu said....we're not talking about who is the nicer person. IIRC, Mr. Cash did some foul shit as well, was in and out of prison and most definitely shot a few folks. Personal life is irrelevant to this discussion.
Johnny Cash never spent any time in jail (a few overnight stays for misdemeanours), and he never shot anyone.
 

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