Technology Apple

masta247

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#41
I don't know if you realize what have you posted. One of that links contains info that Google plans to limit UI customization to Android by third party companies, which is a great thing. No more uber-late updates and bad Chinese knock-off phones running a crippled version of Android.
Trolling fail.
 

S. Fourteen

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#42
I don't know if you realize what have you posted. One of that links contains info that Google plans to limit UI customization to Android by third party companies, which is a great thing. No more uber-late updates and bad Chinese knock-off phones running a crippled version of Android.
Trolling fail.
Fragmentation sucks huh?
 

Casey

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#45
LOL at less desirable phones.

EVERYBODY I know wants an Android. Nobody I know wants an iPhone. Including the people that already had iPhones. From the Xperia Arc to the Desire HD, to the new HTC Sensation, to the LG Optimus 2X, Android is killing it on every angle.

I appreciate that statistics like this must be hard for you to see:

 

Pittsey

Knock, Knock...
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#46
I have noticed a lot of people moving from iphones recently.

It will take a while, but eventually it will go beyond the brainwashing and people will actually play with a high end google phone. A lot of people I know kept their iphone 4 but got an Orange Sanfrancisco to play with. From there they got a little hooked on android and moved up to a better phone, until they are totally won over and buy a Nexus S or HTC Desire HD to replace the iphone.
 

masta247

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#47
http://www.gsmarena.com/why_ios_is_tracking_you_and_how_to_stop_it-news-2547.php

I think that it's scandalous that you actually need an illegal app (jailbreak) to stop Apple from collecting data like this on a "quality, user-oriented" product. And actually storing that data unencrypted AND uploading it to anything that you sync with. Apple-hate aside, this is ridiculous.
With any other system you actually have to agree to let them track your location (Android and even Symbian or Winmo) info AND they are doing it in a professional way.
 

Casey

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#51
Apple is making deals with all the big music companies, they're making a lot of progress on that end, sucks
I don't get why it's being reported as news though, really. Google did the same thing, and they had deals with the majors. The problem actually came from the indie labels.

What seems to have happened is that Google signed deals with the majors (at least 3 of them if not all 4), but then some of the bigger independent labels felt that Google should be giving them as much money as they were offering to the majors. The problem there being that the majors feel entitled to make more than the indies, full stop. So Google basically found themselves in a position where, if they gave the indies the money they wanted, the majors would complain and then want even more money.. and so on.

Apple will undoubtedly face the same problem and they're gonna have to spend a LOT of cash to solve it..... or play dirty. Which they have the advantage of being able to do because of the iTunes monopoly (I seriously can't wait for iTunes to die, it's a piece of shit).

As far as I see it, Google can win this whole thing if they acquire, or do a deal with Spotify. Which has been rumored on multiple occasions, it's known that they've been having very serious talks. I'm a big fan of Spotify and pay a monthly subscription for it, if they merged with Google Music it would be literally an unstoppable force.
 

THEV1LL4N

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#52
i hope so too. streaming music i don't have + streaming my own music that i do have + playing back MP3s that I have = win-win-win.
 

masta247

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#53
Guys, check this one out, it lists original sources of basically all things that will be "new" in iOS5.
http://blog.gsmarena.com/heres-where-apple-get-their-new-ideas-for-ios-5-features/#more-15763

I was especially shocked at this one though:

One particular feature of the iOS 5 involves some really ugly foul play by Apple. The Wi-Fi Sync, which enables you to synchronize your iDevice with your PC or Mac via a shared Wi-Fi network. The concept is great and evolutional (for iOS, that is) and is actually a great steal for Apple. And steal is the right word here as almost a year ago the same app was introduced by a developer from the UK – Greg Hughes. He had come up with the concept and even dubbed it Wi-Fi Sync.

Long story short Apple turned down his idea based on some security issues but was very impressed and even wanted the young man’s CV. He was forced to search for profit elsewhere and ended up posting his Wi-Fi Sync app on Cydia for $9.99. The app is selling like crazy, earning Mr. Hughes big cash (though not as big as the official App Store would have).

Now come Monday Apple mysteriously came up with the same idea and made it official as a part of the new iOS 5. The app icon is uncanny compared to the Cydia-bound version of its true creator and even the name is exactly the same. Horrible move by Apple on this one and I’m sure many people (like myself) will be appalled by this act of thievery.
 

Casey

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#55
Funny. A guy I follow on Twitter posted the day before the Apple conference started:

Prediction for the Apple developer conference - they steal ideas from the jailbreak community and call them revolutionary and magical
Everybody knows that's what they do.

Also, iCloud is a waste of time and iTunes Match will never take off in a million years.
 

S O F I

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#56
In all scheme of things, Apple doesn't need to invent new features to have people flock to their iPhone. They just need to give consumers the features they can really like in Android and WP7 devices. Let's be real, the typical smartphone user can live without Android's "open source" experience. The reality is, and I have a hard time accepting it, the iPhone is the measuring stick for smartphones. When people consider buying a phone, they consider the extent to which they can get an iPhone and live with its limitations. The less limitations it has compared to the Android experience, keeping in mind the average smartphone user, the more likely the iPhone will be chosen over an Android phone. A lot of generalizations, but yeah, it's the feel I get from the people I talk to. I think Smacky would agree :D.
 

Casey

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#57
It's not the measuring stick anymore. The general public is *always* about 6 months behind the tech-heads in that respect and the tech-heads stopped considering it so, well, about 6 months ago when Gingerbread came out and was clearly leaps and bounds ahead of iOS.

And you're not considering the fact that Apple's market share is dropping like a lead balloon and we're about to have the first summer EVER where a new iPhone hasn't been available, RIM and WP7 are tanking.... what is EVERY consumer who wants a new phone between now and October gonna buy? Yup. Thus increasing the market share lead even further.

I see maybe 2-3x as many Androids now on a daily basis compared to iDevices.
 

Pittsey

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#59
Both of you guys have points. I still see many, many more iphone users in the UK. And the majority of phone users I meet aspire to an iphone.
 

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