Film & TV The Dark Knight Rises

Shadows

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#3
I wouldn't mind the Riddler either. If anything, that's what I wanted. A much sinister Riddler would be awesome.

However, with the Joker being the way it was, it probably would have felt too much like the Joker 2 as another villain. Hopefully it lives up to the hype because the 2nd movie was pretty bad ass and will be hard to top.
 

Preach

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#12
apparently there will not be any big villains such as Mr Freeze, the Penguin, etc.
Mr. Freeze fell into liquid nitrogen or something while researching a way to revive his dead, frozen wife. Super silly.

The Penguin was born deformed and raised by penguins in the sewers. He has no super powers, he is just sinister, weird and ugly. Maybe one of the more realistic Batman villains.

Bane is way sillier than Penguin, but not as silly as Mr. Freeze. It's still a huge dude who pumps a toxin into his veins constantly that mutate his body and make him huge. I don't know what Bane will be in the upcoming movie.

What do you mean "such as" "etc."? :p
 

Preach

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#13
btw, like with "The Dark Knight" where they released the first scene a while before the movie in cinemas, there will be a 5-6 minute video coming with a movie in the middle of december (12th-16th) that's supposed to be a prelude to the next movie.
 

FroDawgg

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#14
^^^Yeah it's going to be in front of the new "Mission: Impossible", but only in IMAX theaters. Real IMAX theaters, not like the fake one I have at the theater right near where I live. Noooo, I have to drive 45 minutes now (which I'm going to do when the actual movie comes out, too).

I'm not too excited about seeing M:I, but if I'm driving that far and spending that much for a ticket, I'm not going to leave after 10 minutes. I'm taking my dad because he likes those movies, so it won't be wasted.
 

FroDawgg

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#15
Mr. Freeze fell into liquid nitrogen or something while researching a way to revive his dead, frozen wife. Super silly.

The Penguin was born deformed and raised by penguins in the sewers. He has no super powers, he is just sinister, weird and ugly. Maybe one of the more realistic Batman villains.

Bane is way sillier than Penguin, but not as silly as Mr. Freeze. It's still a huge dude who pumps a toxin into his veins constantly that mutate his body and make him huge. I don't know what Bane will be in the upcoming movie.

What do you mean "such as" "etc."? :p
I don't think Nolan's going to have the venom factor in this movie. I may be wrong, but I think that he's just gonna have Bane be a really strong dud.
 

Preach

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#17
a city of justice, a city of peace

edit: some thoughts:

- pointless read unless you're from new york (i guess). too much blabber about the city and how great it is and how much of an inconvenience this was for its citizen. not enough information about what took place during filming.
- the last sentence is retarded. the guy whom the bridge was named after is a movie critic? the previous movie was another episode of the same old same old where "batman saves gotham" RLY? no heros or anti-heros were killed because they were needed for the invitable sequel? RLY? i'm tempted to write up six paragraphs about why i think he's wrong, and the fact that i can do this tells me he is as much of a critic as i am. or his opinion matters as much as mine do. what an idiot, the movie was great on many levels. and two-face died, by the way. and there was no "group of villains".
- god i fucking hate old people and their ideas.
 

Casey

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Staff member
#20
Christopher Nolan: “The Prologue is basically the first six, seven minutes of the film. It’s the introduction to Bane and a taste of the rest of the film. Our story picks up EIGHT years after The Dark Knight.”

ON BANE:
“He was injured early in his story. Hes suffering from pain and he needs gas to survive. He cannot survive the pain without the mask. The pipes from the mask go back along his jawline and feed into the thing at the back where there are two cannisters of what ever it is..the anasthetic.”

Costume designer Lindy Hemming also lets drop a few clues to his backstory as she talks about Bane’s look. On the mask, she says, “He was injured early in his story. He’s suffering from pain and needs gas to survive. He can’t survive the pain without the mask. The pipes from the mask go back along his jawline and feed into the thing at his back, where there are two cannisters.”


“What our IMAX prologue is aiming at showing is that Bane’s a very different kind of villain than Batman has faced before in our films,” Nolan continues, “He’s a great sort of movie monster, but with an incredible brain, and that was a side of him that hadn’t been tapped before. Because the stories from the comics are very epic and very evocative - very much in the way that Bruce Wayne’s origin story is epic and evocative. We were looking to really parallel that with our choice of villain. So he is a worthy adversary.”


“It’s really all about finishing Batman and Bruce Wayne’s story. We left him in a very precarious place. Perhaps surprisingly for some people, our story picks up quite a bit later, eight years after The Dark Knight. So he’s an older Bruce Wayne; he’s not in a great state.
“With Bane, we’re looking to give Batman a challenge he hasn’t had before. With our choice of villain and with our choice of story we’re testing Batman both physically as well as mentally.”



Physical seems like a mild way to describe the mayhem on Wall Street, but it’s a word that keeps coming up. Bale, for example, confirms, “It’s the first time in Chris’ movies that we’ve had an adversary who’s physically superior [to Batman]”. And the physicality is something in which Hardy appears to revel. He won’t reveal a lot about Bane’s agenda or his motives, but he’ll talk in detail about his methods. Specifically his fighting style.


TOM ON BANE:
“He’s brutal,” Hardy enthuses. “Brutal. He’s expedient delivery of brutality. And you know, he’s a big dude. He’s a big dude who’s incredibly clinical, in the fact that he has a result-based and orientated fighting style. The result is clear.” He laughs boisterously. “Do you know what I mean? It’s: fuck off and die. Quicker. Quicker. Everything is thought out way before. He’s hit you, he’s already hit somebody else. It’s not about fighting. It’s just about carnage with Bane. He’s a smashing machine. He’s a wrecking ball. The style is heavy-handed, heavy-footed, it’s nasty. Anything from small joint manipulation to crushing skulls, crushing rib cages, stamping on shins and knees and necks and collarbones and snapping heads off and tearing his fists through chests, ripping out spinal columns. It’s anything he can get away with.”

This is a 12-certificate film, isn’t it?


“Yeah, but I’m not approaching it with a 12-certificate attitude. If we’re going to shoot somebody, shoot the pregnant woman or the old lady first. Make sure everybody stands up. And listens. He is a terrorist in his mentality as well as brutal action. So he’s horrible. A really horrible piece of work.”

Hardy was Nolan’s first choice for the role, although it seemed he wouldn’t be available as, at the time, he was about to start on George Miller’s Mad Max reboot (now Hardy’s next project after The Dark Knight Rises). As soon as Nolan heard about that film’s delay, the director gave him a call. According to Hardy (who does an uncanny Nolan impression, by the way), the conversation went something like this…

Nolan: Tom. I was just considering doing a new Dark Knight and I was just wondering… There’s a character in it, which I think you would be perfect for. You might not be interested, because I appreciate… Um, I’m asking quite a bit of you as an actor to… wear a mask. For six months. It’s something I’d like to talk to you about if you’re interested and maybe you might consider, um, having a think about it. He’s a villain. I think we’re going to go big on this last one.

Hardy: Are you saying I’d have the access to all the stunt coordination team that I want to play with, martial-arts wise, all the weapons I could possibly want to play with, and I get to hang out with you for six months? And all I have to do is wear a mask?

Nolan: Yeah, basically.

Hardy: Fucking sign me up, man.



The mask, it turned out, wasn’t much of a problem for Hardy. He describes any issues he has as “psychosomatic - if I panic it’s not easy [to breathe], and if I’m chilled it’s fine.” But Empire wonders how Nolan dealt with his villain having to emote with his face hidden.



“I felt that if I could get someone as talented as Tom to agree to hide himself in the character I would get something very special,” he says. “What I really feel with a great actor is every movement, every hand gesture, every step has performance in it.” This, he explains, is the reason he doesn’t hire doubles to do insert work (such as when you see a character’s hand take a gun out of a drawer). “Tom completely got that. It’s an incredible challenge to remove motion of the face so that you can’t put things across in the usual way, and you just have the eyes and a bit of the scalp and the arms and the legs. What I knew is that from Tom I would get something where you get a total character and everything has incredible thought applied to it. And a lot of what he’s doing is very counterintuitive.”



“He has this incredible disjunct between the expressiveness of the voice and the stillness of the movement of his body. He’s found a way to play with a character who is enormous and powerful with a sort of calm to it, but also is able to be incredibly fast at times. Unpredictable. He just has a raw threat to him that’s extraordinary. It’s a very powerful thing when you see it come together, beyond what I had ever imagined. That’s what you get from working with great actors.”
 

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