Hip Hop and Religion

[ARon]

I dont think Ive ever seen people talk about rap music and religion on SH, not like this at least.

 

[ImmortalTech]

streethops sometimes a strange little place..

I was just trying to get some discussion going.. I honestly didnt want this to turn into a fuckin religion debate... but I shoulda known better... Sorry guys

 

[Casey]

i dont have a problem with it being debated but it has come to a point where these topics are being discussed every week and all it ever amounts to is Casey Rain bashing everyone that has a different view or belief to his own so in that sense it is very tedious and tiring. People that argue the other way are told that they are inferior or morons when they put forward a good argument that goes against his beliefs and opinions so whats the point?

Not one of you religious folk has ever put forward a good argument. Not a single one. In fact, the only good pro-religious argument was made hypothetically by an atheist, and you still didn't take the bait. You never do yourself any favors.

As I said, I've yet to a see a single credible argument come out of a religious persons mouth. Not surprising considering the brainwashing and indoctrination tactics that religion forces upon children from a young age. I was lucky to escape from it.

 

[Bobby Sands]

^^there were plenty of good arguments put forward in the other 100 threads we had on this subject which you just dismiss because your view is different. This is always the case, so there is no point even arguing with you over something like this. People that have the opposite view or opinion always get insulted or are made look inferior.

 

[tHuG $TyLe]

streethops sometimes a strange little place..

I was just trying to get some discussion going.. I honestly didnt want this to turn into a fuckin religion debate... but I shoulda known better... Sorry guys

Lol. StreetHop is somtimes the place to force opinions onto others and act intelligent about it :thumb:

 

[Casey]

^^there were plenty of good arguments put forward in the other 100 threads we had on this subject which you just dismiss because your view is different. This is always the case, so there is no point even arguing with you over something like this. People that have the opposite view or opinion always get insulted or are made look inferior.

Name one.

 

[Sebastian]

It makes them feel better/happier.

 

[Bobby Sands]

Name one.

name one what? There were plenty posted already in the other threads by Flipmo for example. go look for them if you want to.

 

[Casey]

name one what? There were plenty posted already in the other threads by Flipmo for example. go look for them if you want to.

*looks*

*finds nothing*

*gets bored*

*leaves thread*

*goes to fridge*

*makes food*

*eats*

*checks email*

*responds to important email*

*yawns*

 

[Bobby Sands]

lol

that was fast.

 

[tHuG $TyLe]

*looks* For God

*finds nothing*

*gets bored* and angry

*leaves thread*

*goes to fridge* to find Jesus

*makes food* Rice cakes and Jesus Juice

*eats* on a bible

*checks email*

*responds to important email* This thread

*yawns* Faps

This is what reaaaaaally happend.

 

[Casey]

goes to fridge to find jesus.....lmfao

 

[Da_Funk]

lol. Yeah I just don't post in discussions like that as I don't feel the need to manifest my opinion on certain things anymore. Here it's just pointless.
I used to just say what I think on a few occasions but I'm not going to repeat myself. And no, I dislike discussing something whole day. At some point it just becomes boring, if it was not solved in the first thread it will not be in the future if there are no new facts - you just repeat yourself and ignore others while getting pissed that they don't listen over and over again.

It's a strange coincidence that there are so many atheists in here btw.

I don't get why you don't like discussing it? Is it maybe b/c your arguements are all nonsensical bullshit?

streethops sometimes a strange little place..

I was just trying to get some discussion going.. I honestly didnt want this to turn into a fuckin religion debate... but I shoulda known better... Sorry guys

There was a good discussion going till you backed out. How do you think to start a thread concerning religion and hip hop and then expect us not to discuss the religious aspect?

^^there were plenty of good arguments put forward in the other 100 threads we had on this subject which you just dismiss because your view is different. This is always the case, so there is no point even arguing with you over something like this. People that have the opposite view or opinion always get insulted or are made look inferior.

Like Casey said, there has never been one good arguement. All the arguements I've ever seen here are along the lines of "This is my belief, and no I'm not going to support this belief with evidence, i'm going to support it with faith". Sorry, that doesn't cut it.

 

[masta247]

I don't get why you don't like discussing it? Is it maybe b/c your arguements are all nonsensical bullshit?

No, I just don't have to convince others to my beliefs and opinions if they are trying to force their extremely different opinions on me and won't accept what I say anyway. Tried once, twice and got nothing - no point. I can tell you my beliefs and tell you why it's like that, what do they give me. However I will not try to convince you. If I was an atheist I would be hard to convince too, if you are not spiritual and don't believe in anything else than you see you will not understand what it is. And it's not about believing in some bullshit stories/books.
No matter what you say including Sebastian's argument in this thread others will just not listen. It's just boring.
I'm confident about some of my beliefs and treasure them to myself.

Sometimes I feel like I'm one of the few people here who are totally accepting other people's beliefs, seriously.

 

[Sebastian]

Sometimes I feel like I'm one of the few people here who are totally accepting other people's beliefs, seriously.

Well, there is no other option than accepting it, right? You have no way to change it, even if you really wanted to.

 

[Flipmo]

Well, there is no other option than accepting it, right? You have no way to change it, even if you really wanted to.

Acceptance has never been about changing people. It's about, despite differences, being able to show a person respect and love as a human. Those that can't accept it will try to keep away from anything involving the issue; push away family, friends, etc. Acceptance isn't detrimental to society, the latter is.

 

[Sebastian]

First of all, in this aspect, we were talking about the concept or idea of religion.

Now, despite feeling like the idea of religion is bogus, i can accept that people that im surrounded with are in fact religious and feel the urge to pray or whatever. I do that, because it doesnt affect me or any other one in any negative way. If i wouldnt feel that way, and maybe feel like there is some threat for me coming from religious people, i wouldnt be able to accept this circumstance and i would try to fight it.

However, i will never ever show respect to the idea/concept of religion. I cant respect something that i feel is totally wrong, backwards, stupid, whatever.

At the same time, this doesnt mean that i wont have respect for the person. This is all about the question "is he or she a good person?". Lets leave the question beside what is good and whats not.

 

[Flipmo]

Well, this is what I'm getting at. I'm not saying you have to respect the idea or concept. Why respect something you feel is wrong. That would be idiotic, but from what most people here seem to do is judge the person as a whole just based on one personal ideal... idiotic, immoral, detrimental to society, good or bad are certain generalizations that come to mind. When in reality, I consider ones that do that to be illogical and hypocritical cause none of them would deny an essential service from one of these 'morons' especially if their life counted on it.


Fucking hell, Ukraine won. Thanks a lot England, you limp dicked fuckers.

Edit: For fucks sake, I just heard a Miley Cyrus and Biggie remix (Party and BS mixed with Party in the USA) ... this day is just getting worse and worse lol....

 

[Casey]

When in reality, I consider ones that do that to be illogical and hypocritical cause none of them would deny an essential service from one of these 'morons' especially if their life counted on it.

I wouldn't trust a religious doctor. Not a chance. I'd pay more and hire an atheist if possible. At least that way he can take responsibility if I would die, rather than taking the bullshit easy road "well i guess this was god's plan".

how can something that doesn't exist have a fucking plan?

sorry, the love of your life was just murdered. "well shucks I guess this was the plan". GTFO with that shit.

fuck your gods in their assholes. i am my god and i'm running this shit we call my life, and i'm doing a damn good job at it, cos i graft my ass off. and that ain't about to change any time soon.

 

[Flipmo]

I wouldn't trust a religious doctor. Not a chance. I'd pay more and hire an atheist if possible. At least that way he can take responsibility if I would die, rather than taking the bullshit easy road "well i guess this was god's plan".

how can something that doesn't exist have a fucking plan?

sorry, the love of your life was just murdered. "well shucks I guess this was the plan". GTFO with that shit.

fuck your gods in their assholes. i am my god and i'm running this shit we call my life, and i'm doing a damn good job at it, cos i graft my ass off. and that ain't about to change any time soon.

Well, I've personally never met a doctor that has said that. I'd probably feel the same as you if someone told me "Well sorry to grand-father died, it was God's plan" ... I'd say eat shit mother fucker, he was just an old bastard. I can tell you from personal experience that my family doctor is a practicing Jew, but he never uses God as a cop out, he's very professional. His personal life stays his personal life and never lets it get into the way of his work. Know what I mean? In terms of death, we all have an expiration date, we're all gonna die and the 'when' and 'how' depends on how healthy we keep ourselves or how many chances we take flirting with it. That's how I see it.

I'm curious though, when you do see a doctor, do you generally come out and ask if he's affiliated with a certain religion and to what extent is he practicing it?