Film & TV Michael Jackson's 'This is it'
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Don't speak unless you know the facts, which I'm not sure that you do.
First of all, have a read of
This-Is-Not-It | Home
and watch this video
Secondly, keep in mind the fact that Dr. Conrad Murray was NOT hired by Michael, he was hired by AEG.
As for "a lot of people think his drug problems started after the Pepsi commercial", here's the facts:
Yes. Michael was put on prescription painkillers after the Pepsi commercial incident. But he kicked the habit by the time of the Bad tour in 1987. He got back on the painkillers duringr the Dangerous tour in '92/'93 (the tour was ended early because of this), kicked it again in '95 with the support of Lisa Marie, and then sadly, had an accident during a live show in Munich in 1999 where the bridge he was standing on dropped suddenly and he fell 50 feet. Yep. He fell 50 feet and hurt his back, but being the consummate performer he was, he continued as if nothing had happened. The footage is on YouTube, it happened during Earth Song and Slash was playing guitar with Michael at that concert if you wanna look for it.
The back problems that were mentioned a few times during the second trial stemmed from this injury.
As for why the movie versions won't be released, it's simply because the recordings are fragmented, there's no recordings with full lead vocals from Michael, AEG wouldn't want to pay the bandmembers to go into the studio and finish them, and plenty more reasons. The most you'll get it fan-ripped audio from the DVD/Blu-Ray release converted to MP3.
Also, it might be worth noting that there were some songs being rehearsed that aren't even in the movie because they simply didn't have enough footage of them or weren't happy with the footage they did have. I think 3-4 more songs, one of them being "Dangerous" which was a staple of MJ live performances.
First of all, have a read of
This-Is-Not-It | Home
and watch this video
Secondly, keep in mind the fact that Dr. Conrad Murray was NOT hired by Michael, he was hired by AEG.
As for "a lot of people think his drug problems started after the Pepsi commercial", here's the facts:
Yes. Michael was put on prescription painkillers after the Pepsi commercial incident. But he kicked the habit by the time of the Bad tour in 1987. He got back on the painkillers duringr the Dangerous tour in '92/'93 (the tour was ended early because of this), kicked it again in '95 with the support of Lisa Marie, and then sadly, had an accident during a live show in Munich in 1999 where the bridge he was standing on dropped suddenly and he fell 50 feet. Yep. He fell 50 feet and hurt his back, but being the consummate performer he was, he continued as if nothing had happened. The footage is on YouTube, it happened during Earth Song and Slash was playing guitar with Michael at that concert if you wanna look for it.
The back problems that were mentioned a few times during the second trial stemmed from this injury.
As for why the movie versions won't be released, it's simply because the recordings are fragmented, there's no recordings with full lead vocals from Michael, AEG wouldn't want to pay the bandmembers to go into the studio and finish them, and plenty more reasons. The most you'll get it fan-ripped audio from the DVD/Blu-Ray release converted to MP3.
Also, it might be worth noting that there were some songs being rehearsed that aren't even in the movie because they simply didn't have enough footage of them or weren't happy with the footage they did have. I think 3-4 more songs, one of them being "Dangerous" which was a staple of MJ live performances.
^I'm sure there were ways for him to get out of the tour. C'mon a legal team could have solved that. From what I read about MJ's finances, he needed the money badly. It's not surprising he agreed to make 50 shows because the money was good and he needed it. I am not saying he is the only one to blame, obviously his entourage clearly didn't help him as they should have.
And from what I read, Dr Murray was signed by AEG but was already MJ's Dr then. He just signed and left his clinic to be with MJ (and prescribe him some drugs obviously).
Btw I don't like how you came across as arrogant by telling me I don't know the facts. I get it, you adored MJ more than most people and you clearly feel connected to the man. Unless you were there in his entourage, you know as much as I do which is all the info available.
This website can be as BS as anything else we were told. This website clearly states the obviously without providing proof of anything really. Of course This Is It was only going to show the best side of MJ, who is stupid enough to do the contrary?
And from what I read, Dr Murray was signed by AEG but was already MJ's Dr then. He just signed and left his clinic to be with MJ (and prescribe him some drugs obviously).
Btw I don't like how you came across as arrogant by telling me I don't know the facts. I get it, you adored MJ more than most people and you clearly feel connected to the man. Unless you were there in his entourage, you know as much as I do which is all the info available.
This website can be as BS as anything else we were told. This website clearly states the obviously without providing proof of anything really. Of course This Is It was only going to show the best side of MJ, who is stupid enough to do the contrary?
I get it now. You sure you don't want that refund? 300 quid is a lot of money no matter what part of the world one comes from.
I never expected them to do that. It would have been just fine if they let it ran for two weeks then make more millions from the DVD sales.
I watched part of that Munich performance as a friend of mine in Germany had it on VHS. I didn't get to the part of the bridge as we were heading out. Either way, that show was electrifying to watch.
I think part of the agreement when the rights were bought by Sony were that: MJ was not to be portrayed in a negative light in any way or in any part during the film. That's believable, I found it hard to believe that everything was running smoothly as I saw it. There were some moments which came out as pretty tense. Lik the moment when this phrase came out:
"More booty......that's funny"
I never expected them to do that. It would have been just fine if they let it ran for two weeks then make more millions from the DVD sales.
I watched part of that Munich performance as a friend of mine in Germany had it on VHS. I didn't get to the part of the bridge as we were heading out. Either way, that show was electrifying to watch.
I think part of the agreement when the rights were bought by Sony were that: MJ was not to be portrayed in a negative light in any way or in any part during the film. That's believable, I found it hard to believe that everything was running smoothly as I saw it. There were some moments which came out as pretty tense. Lik the moment when this phrase came out:
"More booty......that's funny"
just got back from seeing this and like you guys said its a cinematic experience to go see it. This was gonna be One Hell of a concert.
i liked the slow tempo of *the way you make me feel* they did, and shooting new footage for thriller 2009.
Overall though good and it put a smile on my face, and parts of it where i was sad. i thought they would put different dates in the movie. i was expecting them to show on the screen *june 24th, 2009. last day of rehearsal. just started from the beginning april 15th, 2009. i cant wait to get this on DVD
i liked the slow tempo of *the way you make me feel* they did, and shooting new footage for thriller 2009.
Overall though good and it put a smile on my face, and parts of it where i was sad. i thought they would put different dates in the movie. i was expecting them to show on the screen *june 24th, 2009. last day of rehearsal. just started from the beginning april 15th, 2009. i cant wait to get this on DVD
I was waiting for the DVD to be out in December. I wanted to place an order and then I read this:
It was previously reported that a This Is It DVD would be released prior to Christmas, but due to a regulation that usually forces studios to wait a minimum 90 days before releasing a new film to DVD, This Is It has been pushed to a late January or early February DVD release, the Los Angeles Times reports. Because the film will only have a two-week theatrical run, Sony executives argued that a This Is It DVD should circumvent the agreement between theater owners and movie studios, but the theater chains relented. According to the LAT, This Is It will be shown on 6,000 screens in 3,481 theaters these next two weeks, so Sony opted to push the DVD release date to 2010, but will miss out on the Christmas profits.
Full story Jackson’s “This Is It” DVD Pushed to 2010, Doc Dominates Theaters : Rolling Stone : Rock and Roll Daily
No doubt this was an awesome film to watch but, now I'm getting a bit agitated. I saw on the facebook page that the movie run has been extended (again) up to 3rd December 2009. First they advertised the movie would be in cinemas for two weeks only. Then they said its on up to thanksgiving. Now another extension. I won't be surprised if they keep it on up to Christmas or maybe even "a special new year's eve show".
Greedy mother f!@#$%s
It was previously reported that a This Is It DVD would be released prior to Christmas, but due to a regulation that usually forces studios to wait a minimum 90 days before releasing a new film to DVD, This Is It has been pushed to a late January or early February DVD release, the Los Angeles Times reports. Because the film will only have a two-week theatrical run, Sony executives argued that a This Is It DVD should circumvent the agreement between theater owners and movie studios, but the theater chains relented. According to the LAT, This Is It will be shown on 6,000 screens in 3,481 theaters these next two weeks, so Sony opted to push the DVD release date to 2010, but will miss out on the Christmas profits.
Full story Jackson’s “This Is It” DVD Pushed to 2010, Doc Dominates Theaters : Rolling Stone : Rock and Roll Daily
No doubt this was an awesome film to watch but, now I'm getting a bit agitated. I saw on the facebook page that the movie run has been extended (again) up to 3rd December 2009. First they advertised the movie would be in cinemas for two weeks only. Then they said its on up to thanksgiving. Now another extension. I won't be surprised if they keep it on up to Christmas or maybe even "a special new year's eve show".
Greedy mother f!@#$%s
Ahhhhh.....with the amount of money they're making it doesn't make sense for them to stop showing it yet. Hell I might go and see it again.
oh btw, you guys remember how I mentioned before that there was maybe 4-5 songs that were going to be in the show but aren't in the movie, one of them being 'Dangerous'? Well, you can also add 'Dirty Diana' to that list.
Funny story - Michael Bearden (the musical director for This is It) was on a comedy show (Im thinking it was George Lopez's show, I dont remember), and he was talking about how there was going to be a bed on stage for 'Dirty Diana', supposedly it was going to be a very sexual performance.
Anyway, I guess the main female dancer (playing the Diana character) would be actually in the bed. So Michael Bearden says to MJ - "Where's Ori going to be?" (referring to guitarist Orianthi Panagaris)..............and supposedly MJ says "She can be in the bed too! And Bearden.......I can handle it!" (talking about having a threeway
)
Freakin' awesome.
oh btw, you guys remember how I mentioned before that there was maybe 4-5 songs that were going to be in the show but aren't in the movie, one of them being 'Dangerous'? Well, you can also add 'Dirty Diana' to that list.
Funny story - Michael Bearden (the musical director for This is It) was on a comedy show (Im thinking it was George Lopez's show, I dont remember), and he was talking about how there was going to be a bed on stage for 'Dirty Diana', supposedly it was going to be a very sexual performance.
Anyway, I guess the main female dancer (playing the Diana character) would be actually in the bed. So Michael Bearden says to MJ - "Where's Ori going to be?" (referring to guitarist Orianthi Panagaris)..............and supposedly MJ says "She can be in the bed too! And Bearden.......I can handle it!" (talking about having a threeway
)Freakin' awesome.
^^Well, yes. In the back of my mind I already knew that but, thanks for mentioning it :amuse:
I just had a dejavu of how DVD was held in high regard back in the day. Back when VHS was in, before a movie started they used to put these trailers of what DVD is all about (all the hype about better sound, picture, storage). Someday I'll be saying blu-ray is a poor man's version of whatever they are planning next.
I just had a dejavu of how DVD was held in high regard back in the day. Back when VHS was in, before a movie started they used to put these trailers of what DVD is all about (all the hype about better sound, picture, storage). Someday I'll be saying blu-ray is a poor man's version of whatever they are planning next.
I think Blu-Ray, or possiby the thing that comes after it, will be death of optical storage. Just like how nobody uses CD's anymore, in just a couple of years, hard drives and removable storage will be cheap enough, and internet speeds fast enough, that physical storage mediums will be a thing of the past. Everyone's video files will be on portable hard drives.
Personally, I already do that. I don't buy DVD's any more, I just download movies. I have entire libraries of TV shows on my 1TB (1,000 GB) hard drive. Every single episode of Family Guy, The Simpsons, American Dad, South Park, That 70's Show, How I Met Your Mother, Two and A Half Men, The Big Bang Theory, etc etc etc....and a ton of movies....and I still have 400GB or so left.
I think that in 2 years you will be able to get a 5TB hard drive for $100.
Pretty insane. I remember my first PC, that I had 12 years ago, had a 4GB hard drive and that seemed like loads at the time. Now I have twice that amount on a tiny little memory card thats inside my phone, lol.
I paid about £100 for my 1TB drive about 6 months ago, and you can already get the same capacity drives for half that now. I just saw a 2TB drive on a tech site for £129.99, that'll drop to £100 within 3 months IMO.
Personally, I already do that. I don't buy DVD's any more, I just download movies. I have entire libraries of TV shows on my 1TB (1,000 GB) hard drive. Every single episode of Family Guy, The Simpsons, American Dad, South Park, That 70's Show, How I Met Your Mother, Two and A Half Men, The Big Bang Theory, etc etc etc....and a ton of movies....and I still have 400GB or so left.
I think that in 2 years you will be able to get a 5TB hard drive for $100.
Pretty insane. I remember my first PC, that I had 12 years ago, had a 4GB hard drive and that seemed like loads at the time. Now I have twice that amount on a tiny little memory card thats inside my phone, lol.
I paid about £100 for my 1TB drive about 6 months ago, and you can already get the same capacity drives for half that now. I just saw a 2TB drive on a tech site for £129.99, that'll drop to £100 within 3 months IMO.
No. I do buy the ones I really like.
But the point is that the film industry, unlike the music industry, still makes the vast amount of it's income from public broadcast. Ie, you go to the cinema and you pay to see the movie. Me and my wife go to the movies all the damn time, so it's not like I'm not supporting the movies financially at all.
But the point is that the film industry, unlike the music industry, still makes the vast amount of it's income from public broadcast. Ie, you go to the cinema and you pay to see the movie. Me and my wife go to the movies all the damn time, so it's not like I'm not supporting the movies financially at all.
I figured I'd mention this here as it is relevant to the thread.
They found Dr Murray guilty.
I don't necessarily blame him wholly for what happened but this quote sums it up.
Same thing my Dad (a surgeon) believes.
They found Dr Murray guilty.
I don't necessarily blame him wholly for what happened but this quote sums it up.
Same thing my Dad (a surgeon) believes.
I have no quarrel with that. What I don't understand is why MJ's dickryders are trying to paint a picture of this guy being a straight up murderer with a motive to murder MJ. I don't see it. What motive was there? Casey once mentioned something about financial gain. Conrad's only financial gain was keeping MJ alive and drugged to oblivion.
It seems to me that MJ was a full blown addict. The only way to feed his addiction was to enlist the help of what he must have perceived to be an unethical doctor. MJ was asking for this shit. People do realize that, right?
It seems to me that MJ was a full blown addict. The only way to feed his addiction was to enlist the help of what he must have perceived to be an unethical doctor. MJ was asking for this shit. People do realize that, right?
A murderer is one thing I wouldn't call Dr Murray, and I don't think he had a motive murder MJ. He just had a lot of variables go wrong for him that day and it was coming. Casey might have other view points as you've mentioned.
Yes, as an addict MJ was asking for it and it resulted in his death. 'Drugged to oblivion' is an understatement. That voice tape with MJ going on and on just showed the state he was in.
Yes, as an addict MJ was asking for it and it resulted in his death. 'Drugged to oblivion' is an understatement. That voice tape with MJ going on and on just showed the state he was in.
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