Would you go mad if you're kids done drugs.

[_carmi]

damn i see people here that are gonna be futur bad parents fo sure.

 

[The.Menace]

You have to be an experienced drinker to know when you need to stop before you get drunk. If you're going to let your kids drink, but not get drunk, that is nonsense. What is the point of drinking if you don't get drunk or "buzzed"? That especially applies to teenage kids. At the age they are at, it's impossible for them to "like" drinking alcohol. They do it to get drunk. If you tell your kid he can drink but not get drunk, he'll think you're an idiot.

I totally agree. Of course you can have a beer without getting drunken but for real, teenagers aren't that way. Maybe some are but I remember when I was young it wasn't about the good taste. Lol fuck it show me one teenager that actually enjoys the taste of vodka lol.

@Duke, 2 be sick of liquor one time won't make children stop drinkin. Maybe you don't drink for a week, maybe two but that's about it. I've been drinkin myself on Fridays until I nearly had to throw up and did the same the Saturday afterwards. Really it depens on the person but don't be so sure about your opinion.

I think what ya all have 2 think about is that your msg is worth shit if it doesn't actually reach the kid - and you won't reach your kid if you trip cause your boy drank a lil too much at the age of 16 or 17. All his boys get drunk and do fine and he shouldn't join the party because you said so? NO that won't work out.

 

[~live2tell~]

I wouldn't be so sure. I don't know, ya all have to accept that living actually is risky and unhealthy. You can't and shouldn't protect your child from anything.

I agree with the first part, but not the second - I think you can still be honest with your child and protect them. Sure it might not always work out but some of the time it can.

 

[The.Menace]

I agree with the first part, but not the second - I think you can still be honest with your child and protect them. Sure it might not always work out but some of the time it can.

well then read again, I said you shouldn't protect them from EVERYTHING. See - lovesickness is bad, so I make sure my child doesn't fall in love. Liquor is bad, so I don't let them go to a party....see my point, you shouldn't protect your child from anything, some experiences have to be made and yes, I think to drink and to drink too much sometimes are one out of 1000s.

 

[~live2tell~]

well then read again, I said you shouldn't protect them from EVERYTHING. See - lovesickness is bad, so I make sure my child doesn't fall in love. Liquor is bad, so I don't let them go to a party....see my point, you shouldn't protect your child from anything, some experiences have to be made and yes, I think to drink and to drink too much sometimes are one out of 1000s.

You said 'anything' actually

Yeah lovesickness is bad but they should at least experience it, it's part of life, so yeah I understand much better now what you were trying to say

 

[Sebastian]

Why ask them? I'm speaking out of my own personal experience, which is quite extensive on the alcohol front. And for me, and everyone i know who likes to "drink", it is simply true.


Sorry, this is utter bullshit. Not all people drink to get drunk. I can enjoy a good beer any time. Not to get drunk, but because it like it. And that was the case already years ago. I like the taste of a good beer, like i like a good steak, a good fish or good nasi goreng. I like it. Sometimes i drink to get pissed, sometimes I enjoy a good beer in the company of my friends to enjoy the good beer.

I understand perfectly what beReal is saying. Though i might not agree with him, i see where he's coming from. And i see his position on alcohol.

Alcohol is a funny drug. I'd classify it as a hard drug absolutely. But its so nuanced in it's use. It's not like crack, cocaine, ecstacy, heroin or speed, where you take it for it's effects. Drinking the drink itself can be satisfying, unlike a line of coke which isn't fun to snort itself. Alcohol, or alcohol containing drinks, can be used more variedly. And for everyone, the way he/she uses it and for what reason, varies per drink and circumstances.

Not everyone that drinks a beer wants to get hammered. I'd consider myself an "experienced beer drinker", yet although i go out on weekends and plan to get hammered, i don't drink to drunkesness whenever i enjoy a beer. And that's what beReal is saying.

He's saying that, if my 15 year old son likes the taste of a quality german beer, sure he can have one when he's watching football with me.

And there's nothing wrong or hypocritical with that.




Have you any idea how wrong you are here? Generalisations-a-plenty.

thx Duke

well then read again, I said you shouldn't protect them from EVERYTHING. See - lovesickness is bad, so I make sure my child doesn't fall in love. Liquor is bad, so I don't let them go to a party....see my point, you shouldn't protect your child from anything, some experiences have to be made and yes, I think to drink and to drink too much sometimes are one out of 1000s.

some experinces have to be made, right.....getting drunk is definitely not one of these things.

 

[Duke]

@Duke, 2 be sick of liquor one time won't make children stop drinkin. Maybe you don't drink for a week, maybe two but that's about it. I've been drinkin myself on Fridays until I nearly had to throw up and did the same the Saturday afterwards. Really it depens on the person but don't be so sure about your opinion.

I think what ya all have 2 think about is that your msg is worth shit if it doesn't actually reach the kid - and you won't reach your kid if you trip cause your boy drank a lil too much at the age of 16 or 17. All his boys get drunk and do fine and he shouldn't join the party because you said so? NO that won't work out.

No, it was about learning your limits. Not about stopping drinking altogether. And insofar learning your limits, Pittsey was right. When you get smashed for the first time, you're thinking twice before going over the limit the next time.

 

[~live2tell~]

No, it was about learning your limits. Not about stopping drinking altogether. And insofar learning your limits, Pittsey was right. When you get smashed for the first time, you're thinking twice before going over the limit the next time.

Disagree, I kinda think well I survived the first time why not a second time? Drinking and getting hammered and ending up in hospital I've done numerous times, I'm not proud of it and I wouldn't want my child to follow in my exact footsteps but at the same time I can't stop it from happening.

I truly believe that you can only learn from your own experiences.

 

[Duke]

Disagree, I kinda think well I survived the first time why not a second time? Drinking and getting hammered and ending up in hospital I've done numerous times, I'm not proud of it and I wouldn't want my child to follow in my exact footsteps but at the same time I can't stop it from happening.

Haha, that makes you an exception Most, if not everyone, i know that likes to drink went that route. Not saying they'll never get hammered again, but one learns more about your limits in getting smashed than getting a little drunk a 100 times, of course. And as such, the next time they'd be drinking they'd take more care and watch their limits better. And they wouldnt get that drunk again so soon.

I truly believe that you can only learn from your own experiences.

I agree.

 

[Sebastian]

the human being has three options to act smart: firstly, thinking. thats the most noble way. secondly, imitating. thats the easiest way and thirdly through experience. thats the most bitter way...

 

[The.Menace]

@Duke, of course your right, to get to know your limits you gotta get wasted a couple of times.

some experinces have to be made, right.....getting drunk is definitely not one of these things.

let's get a lil more personalö here: Have you ever been drunken breal? Have you ever been to a party?

 

[S O F I]

Why ask them? I'm speaking out of my own personal experience, which is quite extensive on the alcohol front. And for me, and everyone i know who likes to "drink", it is simply true.

From my understanding, they are experienced drinkers as well.

Sorry, this is utter bullshit. Not all people drink to get drunk. I can enjoy a good beer any time. Not to get drunk, but because it like it. And that was the case already years ago. I like the taste of a good beer, like i like a good steak, a good fish or good nasi goreng. I like it. Sometimes i drink to get pissed, sometimes I enjoy a good beer in the company of my friends to enjoy the good beer.

You're speaking about yourself, and you're what, 20 years old? I'm talking about kids here, focus Duke, please. I'm talking about 10-16(17) years old here.

Not everyone that drinks a beer wants to get hammered. I'd consider myself an "experienced beer drinker", yet although i go out on weekends and plan to get hammered, i don't drink to drunkesness whenever i enjoy a beer. And that's what beReal is saying.

Kids aren't experienced drinkers. If we're talking about kids as experienced drinkers, then BeReal's opinion is worth shit because he failed as a parent, then.

He's saying that, if my 15 year old son likes the taste of a quality german beer, sure he can have one when he's watching football with me.

And there's nothing wrong or hypocritical with that.

Your son will not like the taste of quality german beer. That's not impossible, but HIGHLY uncommon. The taste of beer, or Vodka for this matter, is a developed taste. You have to drink it a lot to develop the taste and likeness for it. And I'm telling you, (mind that I'm only 17 years old), kids don't drink to enjoy a good drink. They do it to get buzzed or wasted.

Have you any idea how wrong you are here? Generalisations-a-plenty.

Have you any idea how wrong you are here? Hello, I'm 17 years old. I'm speaking from experience. I still remember my childhood and the childhood of lots of people fairly well. My experience as a child allows me not to generalize, but speak the truth.


Again, the whole point here is that we're talking about kids. 90 percent of your post dealt with your experience, but you're an experienced drinker. If you've been drinking for a while, it's very common to enjoy a drink for the fact that it's a drink, and not just to get wasted. But, as a kid, that's not the case.

 

[Duke]

From my understanding, they are experienced drinkers as well.




You're speaking about yourself, and you're what, 20 years old? I'm talking about kids here, focus Duke, please. I'm talking about 10-16(17) years old here.



Kids aren't experienced drinkers. If we're talking about kids as experienced drinkers, then BeReal's opinion is worth shit because he failed as a parent, then.



Your son will not like the taste of quality german beer. That's not impossible, but HIGHLY uncommon. The taste of beer, or Vodka for this matter, is a developed taste. You have to drink it a lot to develop the taste and likeness for it. And I'm telling you, (mind that I'm only 17 years old), kids don't drink to enjoy a good drink. They do it to get buzzed or wasted.






Have you any idea how wrong you are here? Hello, I'm 17 years old. I'm speaking from experience. I still remember my childhood and the childhood of lots of people fairly well. My experience as a child allows me not to generalize, but speak the truth.


Again, the whole point here is that we're talking about kids. 90 percent of your post dealt with your experience, but you're an experienced drinker. If you've been drinking for a while, it's very common to enjoy a drink for the fact that it's a drink, and not just to get wasted. But, as a kid, that's not the case.

You keep assuming that what counts for you counts for everyone else. Now i'm not saying you're wrong altogether, i agree that most teens aged around 16 would rather drink to get pissed. But then again there are a good lot of there that just like a good beer. It's not uncommon. I was 15/16/17 as well, my mates too. Most of us enjoyed a good beer back then as well.

 

[~live2tell~]

the human being has three options to act smart: firstly, thinking. thats the most noble way. secondly, imitating. thats the easiest way and thirdly through experience. thats the most bitter way...

Only 3 options huh... I don't think experiences are bitter, I think they quite often make you a stronger person. And the right thing to do isn't always the smartest thing to do either. I know I'll be able to guide my children in the 'right' direction, but that's all I can do - advise. I'll be able to tell them what it's like waking up in a hospital bed because you accidentally overdosed on drugs and alcohol, I'll be able to be honest with them about it because I've experienced it, and maybe I'll be able to steer them clear from doing the same... maybe.

 

[Sebastian]

let's get a lil more personalö here: Have you ever been drunken breal? Have you ever been to a party?

no and of course

Your son will not like the taste of quality german beer. That's not impossible, but HIGHLY uncommon. The taste of beer, or Vodka for this matter, is a developed taste. You have to drink it a lot to develop the taste and likeness for it. And I'm telling you, (mind that I'm only 17 years old), kids don't drink to enjoy a good drink. They do it to get buzzed or wasted.

take alco-pops for example (mix-drinks). i dont think that you have to develop the taste of these drinks.

They do it to get buzzed or wasted.

and thats what i wont allow them. i dont want them to do some stupid shit and then say "sorry but i was drunk, i cant remember" or stuff like that. as long as im responsible for their actions i dont want them to get drunk.

 

[Sebastian]

Only 3 options huh... I don't think experiences are bitter, I think they quite often make you a stronger person.

well they can be bitter but still make you a stronger person, right?

And the right thing to do isn't always the smartest thing to do either.

of course it is!?

 

[Khalistani Soldier]

Really, it depends how old they are and how frequently they smoke it. Pot, only Mary Jane and obviously juicing fine with me too. Hard drugs will just get them a whopping. But even chronic and juicing has to be limited. Thats only if I ever find out they doing it, cause its not like I'm going to introduce it to them.

 

[S O F I]

You keep assuming that what counts for you counts for everyone else. Now i'm not saying you're wrong altogether, i agree that most teens aged around 16 would rather drink to get pissed. But then again there are a good lot of there that just like a good beer. It's not uncommon. I was 15/16/17 as well, my mates too. Most of us enjoyed a good beer back then as well.

I'm not JUST assuming because of my personal experience. I'm assuming from what I see at parties, what I see when it comes to teenagers my age. Well, a good beer, yes, from time to time. Sometimes, I can drink a Heineken like it's water, sometimes I can't get one sip. But, again, I am talking alcohol in general. BeReal didn't specify which drink. BeReal said he'd let his kids drink, but not get drunk.

 

[S O F I]

no and of course



take alco-pops for example (mix-drinks). i dont think that you have to develop the taste of these drinks.



and thats what i wont allow them. i dont want them to do some stupid shit and then say "sorry but i was drunk, i cant remember" or stuff like that. as long as im responsible for their actions i dont want them to get drunk.

You've never been drunk and you're going to let your kids drink. I like the fact that you're not going to tell your kids not to do something because you didn't do it, but in this specific case, that's just...weird. As for mix-drinks, OK, you don't have to develop the taste. But, still, if ALL your kid wants is a nice-tasting drink, he should drink a Mountain Dew or Fanta, or Minute Maid.

My point is, if you don't want them to get drunk, don't let them drink. Don't give them this freedom of drinking that doesn't even have a purpose.

Why do you want to let your kids drink?
Why do you want to let your kids drink, if you, yourself, don't drink?

 

[Duke]

I'm not JUST assuming because of my personal experience. I'm assuming from what I see at parties, what I see when it comes to teenagers my age. Well, a good beer, yes, from time to time. Sometimes, I can drink a Heineken like it's water, sometimes I can't get one sip. But, again, I am talking alcohol in general. BeReal didn't specify which drink. BeReal said he'd let his kids drink, but not get drunk.

Heineken is terrible, lol.

And yet somehow i managed to glug in a gallon of it last night