Why you can all eat a dick

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Rukas

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This rant stems from a conversation I was having on Yahoo with SicC and Big Easy.

Here is why I retired and why you can all suck my dick. None of you have really done anything, and in my opinion, the whole community online behind hiphop has become a bunch of fucking posers and assholes with no talent or motivation what so ever past their little 15 minutes of internet fame.

When Jon was running HitEmUp.com, Chris and I became involved and we learned the whole ropes, from design, to writing, to coding, to everything, which means if any of us wasnt around the other guy was there to pick up the slack. Back then, in those days, sites were quality. Ill even go as far as to say our competition back then, was better than any site today. Better than Mr Makaveli or whatever, no offense to those guys, its just a different era now. Sites like Madeniggaz.net were the fucking shit, and while we competed and beefed, everything was done with respect and quality.

Nowdays people install some software slap a skin on it, a shitty ass 5 second so called logo and away they go on their little internet empire. Back then, we would take pride with our designs and layouts. I mean seriously, all the Tupac forums out there now, layout wise, suck dick compared to HitEmUp, TupacBoard, 2PacZone, MadeNiggaz, TruThugz, whatever.

Also, the new kids nowdays dont want to actually do anything, they want a quick easy way into the so called online game. Not one person on the staff of StreetHop in the past 6 years has expressed any interest in helping the site and forum on anything other than news. Back in my day, we all helped out with content, graphics, layout, etc.

Seriously, what do you think is going to happen with me gone? Do you think someone like Sigh will all of a sudden learn photoshop and redesign the site every year? Do you think Sebastian will learn PHP code too add new features? No, no, no, no.

There is absolutely NOBODY out there that will pick up the slack, but everybody wants to talk shit like I owe them something, or the community here owes them something, because they blessed us with some threads, or were a moderator. I thank every mod out there, but really, a 10 year old could do your job. It takes time, and good help is hard to find, but it's not really furthering the site in any substantial way.

No body steps up to add any creative input, no body steps up to add any marketing ideas, no body steps up with any financial aid, no body steps up with any ideas, no body steps up with any initiative, I have to literally chase people to do the simplest of things.

And at least, while SicC hasnt done anything creative, he has done those other things behind the scene, money, distribution, ideas, etc etc.

And for that reason, everybody else apart from the select few, and the news staff (those of whom are actually active) can suck my dick.

The only person that even springs to mind, apart from Pittsey, Chris, Stephen, to come close in the past 10 years to actually doing something is Chronic. Chronic ran his own sites, and tried to do creative things, not just try to steal some lime light, and thats why I miss Chronic and welcome him back at any time.

Fuck if anybody with half the talent that Chronic had stepped up to me, Id hand StreetHop.com over to them.

Like I said, without me, really, while the forum will live on, the actual site will be gone in a year.

So next time you all complain, shut up, and ask yourselves, what have you REALLY done for StreetHop.com's development?

You all should be kissing SicC's feet because without what he did behind the scenes you wouldnt even have a forum to bitch on anymore.
 
damn those neg reps hurt ruk, no more 7 green dots for me lol.

but seriously, i shouldn't have jumped in where i wasn't involved i was just sticking up for seb, kind of like you do in high school when you stick up for your mates. i also wanted to say that some of the things i said like overthrowing SicC's dictatorship was more of a joke than a real statement.

anyway i talked with SicC on msn and theres no hard feelings there.
 
There are two sides of your story.

First of all, i have to agree with you. There are a very few people who know about PHP code and these things. So, without you (or Jon and Chris in the very past) things would never have been started or developed this way. Very true. I dont think any of the "old members" fail to see the point though.

What you fail to recognise is that you being able to design a board or whatever is useless if you have no members who bring fun and knowledge to the board! Someone remembers the thread (some weeks ago) in which we nearly all agreed that its the members that make the board what it is? I think most people know which thread im talking about.
Without the appropriate members the board would have died just like many other boards did in the past (like mr.mak lately).

I dont want to give the impression that members are more important than admins (or those who design/create the board). They are not. Its more like an interaction, the first part wouldnt work without the second and the other way round.

I thank every mod out there, but really, a 10 year old could do your job.

Its ok for you to think that, but you are wrong. Obviously.
 
I can do photoshop, HTML and FLASH!!

I am insulted.

No not really. You are absolutely right. I tried to give back and help out a little bit but i know what i did wasnt much. Never even tried to ask anything in return or even say "Hey look i am helping the site".

What i did and sometimes do is miniscule compared to what others did but i try to do what i can or have time for. Sorry if it aint much but my motto is better than nothing.

Anywho, if you do need some designing help or ideas i got lots of them as you may have noticed when i posted those long threads in the staff forums.

Cheers and don't let this shit get you down man a lot of people don't understand how much work goes into a site because they havent done it.
 
Seb, I've always liked you, but you're becoming overly ignorant.

How many members have you seen in the past like that? Who thought they were God's gift to the board? Who thought things would die if they left, and then when they did, new members like Tha Wood filled their shoes. How many people got their panties twisted and left expecting our world to end and then it didn't?

Its not you that makes this forum what it is Seb. You're right though, we said it, its the MEMBERS that make the COMMUNITY. The members, plural, not one member over the other.
 
Farzin, you've been great over the years and I hope you continue to contribute.

(C) Ill take you up on that soon. How good are you, I have an idea for a new feature that's going to need a lot of coding.
 
How many members have you seen in the past like that? Who thought they were God's gift to the board? Who thought things would die if they left, and then when they did, new members like Tha Wood filled their shoes. How many people got their panties twisted and left expecting our world to end and then it didn't?

There were some, yes.

You named Tha_Wood....can you name someone else? I dont think so because hes the only one who became an active and good member and he registered more than a year ago. So the board clearly lives on the "old members".

Its not you that makes this forum what it is Seb.

I never said that, did i?
 
Rukas is right......MadeNiggaz.net was the shiznit ;)

He is right with everything he is saying though. For real. Although financially speaking a fair few people did donate, and a lot of us bought VIP. Not that that is a great deal compared to server costs, but hey it's better than nothing.

I don't have a great deal to offer other than information, mostly on other genres of music which is why I mod that section. I'd happily moderate more sections though if needed.
 
What can I say?
At least I'm glad that I'm a part of the news staff since 2 weeks or so and feel like I'm doing a little something for Streethop.

I was not an active member years before, I was visiting here once in a few days and wasn't even posting much so I wasn't even thinking about doing anything more.
Community here made me post more and I liked it more here and since few months I'm a daily visitor also quite active here.

Since that happened I could do something more but:
I can't write flash, php or java yet, I'm planning to go to an IT school so if I'll learn something there I could do something here as well, I'm also not perfect in English so I couldn't write articles because I could mess something up and it wouldn't be nice if other people would read it and think there are retards writing articles for SH.
I post news and actually feel good about it.
Whenever I'll be needed to do something more and I'll be able to do that I'll gladly do it.

btw. When I first saw hitemup.com I thought it was the best 2pac-related site on the net wasn't it? It was even first for me on google.
 
Dude. I offered my PHP knowledge already. Right before or after the ban, i can't rememeber. But i did. im not too good with graphics but i can do some there too. obviously with 2 kids i cant devote all my time but i can devote some
 
One more thing Ruk (concerning you and SicC):

Ive seen you complain about certain things in WoW, like favouritism in policy, corruption and things like that. Im gonna make a comparison here:

I bet if you hear about a politician (or whoever else in a high position) giving one of his friends a spot where he has some kind of power about other people and then, additionally, telling him he can do whatever he wants to do, even if breaking the guidelines/rules, just because this guy is his friend....you would say thats wrong, right?
 
i don't know php and i'm no good at designing. couldn't have helped you there if i wanted to.

when i stepped down as supermod i said that some time soon to come i'll offer my services as a newsposter mayhaps. maybe that time is right around the corner.

luckily i have never bitched about the site or the administration. if i ever did bitch it was about the community i think. :)
 
your right..its true....when i read that...i thought of myself....i need to pick up the slack...ive just been focusing on my own things..its not that i dont appreciate being here...i just am focousing on my own things..i hope u understand.......but I'm still doing some things here and there....you'll see.
 
One more thing Ruk (concerning you and SicC):

Ive seen you complain about certain things in WoW, like favouritism in policy, corruption and things like that. Im gonna make a comparison here:

I bet if you hear about a politician (or whoever else in a high position) giving one of his friends a spot where he has some kind of power about other people and then, additionally, telling him he can do whatever he wants to do, even if breaking the guidelines/rules, just because this guy is his friend....you would say thats wrong, right?

It wasn't Rukas that gave me my spot, it was Jon and Rukas. The spot was given to me before Rukas ever lived with me.

pz
 
Your rant seems to stem from your perpetual need to reassert your position as the dominant figure on an internet website.

While others joke around about their "net fame" or their board status, you take it seriously and get overly offended when your website or your decisions are questioned, let alone put down.

Congratulations on having a structured layout and pretty graphic design. You really have done a good job with it, but it's outside the scope of the problems and issues being taken up.

And there are problems. For instance, your website has been irrelevant since you changed it to Streethop to promote your business while slowly moving the very thing that made your site popular out of the picture. You went from having the number one Tupac community on the internet to being a second rate hip-hop news site that gets its information from SOHH and All Hip-Hop.

No one on this forum, who are the people complaining, give a damn about Streethop.com. We don't stick around this forum to read the breaking news, click the awesome ads, or buy your goods. We're trying to hold on to the intellectual and/or friendly relations that we made when we joined HitEmUp.com.

Thus, no one has been asking themselves what have we REALLY done, and no one will. When your site is gone, I will IM Puff and tell him he has no concern for the disenfranchised, and then he'll call me a socialist. We don't need a thread to do that, even if they do help and facilitate long conversations with a greater mass of people.



So give me my two day ban for talking subversively, and I'll go write my Anth paper.
 
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