Toggle sidebar

This is my thread

i'm too drunk i'm too high to hear that fuck shit LET DEM THINGS BLAM

there's 3 heaters on the new waka album.
 
Da_Funk said:
What is the deal with the student protests in Montreal. I mean I read the newspapers and I get that side, but fuck me I don't understand it.
Click to expand...

It started off as protests against Charest's decision to rise tuition substantially in the next 4-6 years. People hated it and took to the streets. While many people have been split on the issue (in universities at the time, it's almost become violent), a lot of the strikes and protests have been infiltrated by Anarchists, also known here as The Black Block. We were having protests daily, many which had been violent, so the Charest Government introduced Bill 78. A bill that targets protests and the way they're formed. The problems is, even for myself, I find the bill somewhat draconian. Even a few human rights associations have looked at the bill with a weary eye. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bill_78

That said, we're probably going to the polls soon, the problem is - Quebec politics is fucked. I usually vote Liberal, but there is scandal after scandal after scandal. What does that leave me with? Parti Quebecois, ADQ and the CAQ, all which are Quebec nationalists, PQ has that retarded bitch Marois. ADQ has the psychopath Amir Kadir and CAQ are a bit too right for my liking, and the right will never do anything here in Quebec. I'm left with the Green Party really which is a wasted vote.
 
Flipmo said:
It started off as protests against Charest's decision to rise tuition substantially in the next 4-6 years. People hated it and took to the streets. While many people have been split on the issue (in universities at the time, it's almost become violent), a lot of the strikes and protests have been infiltrated by Anarchists, also known here as The Black Block. We were having protests daily, many which had been violent, so the Charest Government introduced Bill 78. A bill that targets protests and the way they're formed. The problems is, even for myself, I find the bill somewhat draconian. Even a few human rights associations have looked at the bill with a weary eye. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bill_78

That said, we're probably going to the polls soon, the problem is - Quebec politics is fucked. I usually vote Liberal, but there is scandal after scandal after scandal. What does that leave me with? Parti Quebecois, ADQ and the CAQ, all which are Quebec nationalists, PQ has that retarded bitch Marois. ADQ has the psychopath Amir Kadir and CAQ are a bit too right for my liking, and the right will never do anything here in Quebec. I'm left with the Green Party really which is a wasted vote.
Click to expand...
I'm still trying to understand the initial outrage. I read on CBC that after all the increases it'd be ~3700/year which is still very, very cheap. I'm from Manitoba which is still the land of cheap university (for which I'm eternally grateful). Most people I talk to back home think the students are a bunch of spoiled brats essentially. I think that's a rather unfair judgement since many of them don't understand the culture. So I guess what I'm really asking is: are the cultural differences two provinces over really that large or are the students just a bunch of spoiled brats?

Anyways, I'll be on site for the next 8 days and this website is blocked at work so I'll talk to you all next week.
 
Da_Funk said:
I'm still trying to understand the initial outrage. I read on CBC that after all the increases it'd be ~3700/year which is still very, very cheap. I'm from Manitoba which is still the land of cheap university (for which I'm eternally grateful). Most people I talk to back home think the students are a bunch of spoiled brats essentially. I think that's a rather unfair judgement since many of them don't understand the culture. So I guess what I'm really asking is: are the cultural differences two provinces over really that large or are the students just a bunch of spoiled brats?

Anyways, I'll be on site for the next 8 days and this website is blocked at work so I'll talk to you all next week.
Click to expand...

While I have my issues with the whole protest movement, I wouldn't say they're spoiled brats.
The provincial government is corrupt as hell, and the amount of useless spending is nothing short of crazy. The tuition rise is a symptom of another major problem going on in Quebec. We have academic administrators getting bonuses of $1million + as a severance pay, only for them to get a whole other job a week later. These are administrators with degrees in English Lit. that have only had the position for a year or two.

What the logical protesters (cause trust me, some real crackhead idiots in the group) are arguing is that if there was more control on spending, universities would have the money they needed and there wouldn't be a need for a tuition hike.

To answer your question though, there's a huge cultural difference between the two provinces. Quebec is a lot more leftist in regards to social services. I'd say we're more in line with the Scandinavian countries if you want to say. Look at the last federal elections and some of the issues in regards to family, society and economics - Quebec stands out.

The link is in French: http://www.boussoleelectorale.ca/resultats/federales/ but I'm sure Google can translate it, if not...

It points out 30 issues in Canada during the 2011 election, and how different regions of the country react to those issues. Number 1 for example says more or less: All Canadian troops in Afghanistan should return home. When you click on it, Quebec overwhelmingly is in yellow, meaning highly agree with the statement. While the rest of the nation doesn't. So can you see a difference in culture.
 
Wow, 3700/year? That's less than I pay for my university. Is that for a decent university? Full time? For foreigners too?
Last I checked master's degree at University of BC was over 15k a year. I'd love some cheap Canadian studies, if they were any good.
 
:-(

Sucks. Is there any place where studies for foreigners are relatively inexpensive? I'm considering another masters' degree when I finish mine for the sake of foreign university experience.
 
Masters are even more expensive for international students here, that said - at least it's recognized everywhere. Even for those living here, it's considerably more expensive. I know it will be for me. Not USA expensive, but more than a BA
 
i don't think grad level foreign experience is that fun. i don't know of anyone in grad school who is "living it up" by any means. most/all of them are barely juggling work, school, and other responsibilities like families and shit like that. but then again, i don't know what you want.
 
S O F I said:
i don't think grad level foreign experience is that fun. i don't know of anyone in grad school who is "living it up" by any means. most/all of them are barely juggling work, school, and other responsibilities like families and shit like that. but then again, i don't know what you want.
Click to expand...

Frankly it's not that I'm going to learn much from grad level studies now. I'd like to live abroad for some time and this seemed like a pretty good option. Get a masters degree just for the sake of experiencing university abroad.
By the sounds of it there's hardly any reason for me to go for graduate studies abroad then, but I guessed that it was my best bet.
I don't feel like starting new undergraduate studies for international university experience and meeting people there if the prices are so ridiculously high. I wouldn't want to pay like 20k a year just to sit in class while listening to things I already know, or that are boring just for the sake of it, because I kind of missed on that experience.
I'd have to move to Canadian office of my company and do the same thing that I do here to live comfortably there, but I'm not sure if that's what I'd like to keep on doing since that was supposed to be temporary stuff.
 
You must log in or register to reply here.

Latest posts

Donate

Back in the day, we used to recieve donations sent as cash in fake birthday cards! Those were the days! I still have some of them, actually.

Now we have crypto.

Ethereum/EVM: 0x9c70214f34ea949095308dca827380295b201e80

Bitcoin: bc1qa5twnqsqm8jxrcxm2z9w6gts7syha8gasqacww

Solana: 8xePHrFwsduS7xU4XNjp2FRArTD7RFzmCQsjBaetE2y8

Members online

No members online now.
Total: 126 (members: 0, guests: 126)
Top Bottom
Back