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S O F I

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on another note...

i stopped reading Less Than Zero. I got to about 40% before I realised that was it. This whole time I'm thinking the book is setting something up but in reality, it's all there is to it. Rich kids in Hollywood on vacation from college in the 80s. brainless.
 

S O F I

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the video is about killing the bad guys and not asking tough questions about how our lifestyles and faux-activism lead to the sponsorship and generation of dictators overseas.

To the extent that Kony is a "bad guy" (what an oversimplified and trite idea - reminiscent of the "axis of evil"), he's a bad guy created by euro-imperialism.

Some white dude going out to save the poor Africans replicates pretty much the whole problem.

perhaps the activism is "real" in the sense that any conversation about power is activism, but the discussion surrounding Kony is virtually identical to that which surrounded the removal of Saddam Hussein and Osama bin Laden.

Activism which sought to addresses the causes of the issues raised by the film would examine broader US and European policy towards Africa and criticize Kony as a symptom of other problems.

If posting the video IS activism, it's activism which is myopic and unproductive - the video is deeply racist and continues to project paternalistic ideas about whites needed to saving brown women from brown men, and brown children from other brown people.

To answer your question directly: "bringing Kony down" in a military engagement doesn't end the problems which gave rise to the LRA in the first place. In fact, it dramatically exacerbates them, as the conflicts in Iraq and Afghanistan more than ably demonstrate. Not all "awareness" is created equal and the awareness of the Kony video is shortsighted and racist.""
a friend's friend on facebook regarding the Kony 2012 video.
 

Jokerman

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i stopped reading Less Than Zero. I got to about 40% before I realised that was it. This whole time I'm thinking the book is setting something up but in reality, it's all there is to it. Rich kids in Hollywood on vacation from college in the 80s. brainless.
Yup. Watch the movie instead, with Michael J. Fox.
 

S O F I

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not an SNL skit. The company got a new round of financing from a couple prominent VC firms today. Smart marketing move.

A friend signed up but I'll wait to hear about the quality of the razors.
 

Pittsey

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How about that Kony video. People on my facebook are freaking out about it and meanwhile I'm sitting there being like this shit is news to you? What world do you live in that you didn't know about this.
Fuck me. How relieved I am to hear this. It's been pissing me off too. They are campaigning to "get the government involved through the power of social networking"... This is protesting to them. Posting links to youtube on facebook is going to change the world. Viva la revolution. I like to post links to CNN showing how Obama sent 100 troops to Northern Uganda 6 months ago to train their armies specifically against J.K. That is as much as any government will get involved. So their facebook "mission" has been achieved already.

But...

There is a shit load of oil and mineral reserves in both Sudan and Uganda. So expect the Africans to be "saved" by the western world very soon. Specifically BP and Exxon. All we want back is a democratic process, freedom for the people and, oh, half your oil and mineral reserves.

a friend's friend on facebook regarding the Kony 2012 video.
I agree with a lot of his points.

How did it turn out in Libya? Not very well. But then Western Media won't be reporting on that. Same with Kony. There will be another warlord stepping into his shoes as soon as he leaves. It's the way it works. Making changes can't be achieved by posting links on facebook, it's fucking lazy. Their plan - Post links until your government fixes the problem. The Government can't fix local problems, do people think they can fix African problems? They think it because they are thick and get their current affairs from Hollywood in the form of a Gerard Butler film....!
 

Flipmo

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I think most people know about child-soldiers in Africa and such, but I think it's more due to the fact that this guy has been doing it for the last 20 years and little effort has been made to stop him or report on him. Instead, Lady Gaga having 20M Twitter followers makes the front page. I've heard of Kony before, but that's only because I've been to conferences about the issue. Social media can be a very powerful tool if used correctly, shit, ask Casey what he was doing during the Birmingham Riots and how it helped (didn't the city want to give him a medal or something?).

You can argue about the economics and where the money is going if you do donate, but having the likes of A-actors and entertainers promoting your campaign is priceless and has a lot more power than the 20$ you might be sending. When these guys talk, people listen (sadly though, what comes out of their mouths for the most part isn't always brilliant)
 

Pittsey

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• The LRA is not in Uganda but now operates in the DRC, South Sudan and the Central African Republic

• The LRA now numbers at most in the hundreds, and while it is still causing immense suffering, it is unclear how millions of well-meaning but misinformed people are going to help deal with the more complicated reality.

• In October last year, Obama authorised the deployment of 100 US army advisers to help the Ugandan military track down Kony, with no results disclosed to date.

• The LRA is much smaller than previously thought. It does not have have 30,000 or 60,000 child soldiers. The figure of 30,000 refers to the total number of children abducted by the LRA over nearly 30 years.

• There is currently no threat to remove the US advisers who are working with the Uganda government to track down the army – Invisible Children's key aim is to force the US government to keep them there.

If the above facts are in fact correct, and I believe they are. How come the Invisible Children charity do not know this. If they get this wrong, do we really want to send them our money? Do we want them involved at all, in what is a difficult political area.
 

Flipmo

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Those are very good points to make. And, when I first saw the video myself I knew that a so called standing army of 30,000 child soldiers had to be an exaggeration, nonetheless, if it was over a span of 30 years, that's 1000 kids a year. Still doesn't make it right. I'm sure Invisible Children has taken some liberties with the truth - as do most charities, especially in regards to the financial aspect of it all. The cause is still there, though - on the other hand when dealing with the [foreign] political ramifications, that's a different story and a bureaucratic nightmare as well. I've always found that the best charities involving issues such as these is to find a way for people to defend themselves; barbed gates, paid and trained mercenary guards, etc. That's a personal opinion though.
 

Da_Funk

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Thanks. I thought maybe it was, but I guess I've been suffering from a lack of confidence lately. I assumed everyone was gonna jump on me and tell me why I was stupid.
Nah. If you were sandeep or someone I'd lol @ you and all that mean shit. But you, your smart so I'd debate you. But I have no clue what you guys were talking about so I didn't say anything.

That's right, this post has no point.
 

S O F I

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rap's been slow as fuck lately. i haven't heard nothing good in almost two months. TWO MONTHS. i know this is the slow time for rap but god damn. will any rapper i give two shits about put something out? fuck.
 

Flipmo

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That's really funny. But I only quoted your post to get your attention: what's going on at Concordia right now? You keep posting about it on fb and I'd like to be informed please.
My province is expecting to raise the tuition for university (even after the rise, we'll still have the lowest tuition in North America). So, at the moment, especially here in Montreal, there are mass demonstrations and strikes. Most of the French universities have gone on strike in the province, and mine (being one out of 3-4 English universities in the province) voted to go on strike as well. That means people have been physically blocking people from going to class and such. The problem is, the CSU (Concordia Student Union) had a general assembly that was by far largely biased in the way it was run. For example, there are 16,000 undergrads in my university, they booked a hall (and 3 other rooms) for 3 hrs (between 3 and 6pm in the middle of the week) to have a vote by hand as to if the students would join the strike movement.

There were only 1,600 people or so that voted. People, such as myself, that attended are claiming that it's the most undemocratic shit ever. Many departments who would vote against the strike were apparently never contacted or knew about this General Assembly (Business, engineering, sciences, etc ... all which are known for being anti-strike) - and many students in these programs have mandatory workshops and labs during this time which can strongly affect their marks.In addition, people are working during these hours, people working to pay their tuition and cannot get off work.

During the assembly, people who stepped up to the microphone to comment and ask questions brought up the fact that they've (the CSU) been cutting corners on the democratic process, those that asked the question were silenced and had their microphone closed. People were walking in and out during the discussions because the Assembly was taking its sweet ass time with certain technological problems. A ballot system was suggested to incorporate all the undergrads, it was refused for being a 'logistical issue', yet, they set up an online feed with 4 different areas of the university that were part of the G.A in sync, they needed man-power to count all the raised hands when voting, microphone problems, those leading the assembly were on their phones the whole time "coordinating" while people were asking serious questions, etc.

These are just some of the issues at hand.
 

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