Still I Rise Vs. Pac's Life; the end of an era

I was probably more of a fan because all I used to do was listen to Pac (and Michael Jackson actually). I used to listen to Papaz Song over and over again and to this day it remains one of my fav songs.
 
KAMIKAZI said:
To all the people saying Pac's Life is better than Loyal To The Game, you are wrong. I think the only reason people believe that is because this album is causing less of a stir than Loyal To The Game did. Why? Because fans are actually getting used to Pac's material being massacred (as sad as it is).

There are definitely more bumpable tracks on Loyal To The Game than there is on Pac's Life.

Pacs Life is better than LTTG because they didnt make Pac say shit he didnt say on this one and didnt destort his voice.

But regardless, you missed the whole point of this thread if youre comparing both of them...
 
Jus woke up, started to play Pac's Life on my ipod lying there in bed. track 1 & 2 skip, i heard them loads already, track 2 ok not enuf Pac, track 3 skip, track 4 wtf!? etc etc. Album is shite. I WILL NOT BE BUYING THIS NOW. I was gooing to regardless but no ive heard it... No chance! Changed Man from Better Dayz shits on every track on this LP an Changed Man is a poor track.
 
Local Star said:
Changed Man from Better Dayz shits on every track on this LP an Changed Man is a poor track.


no, just no...I've only heard Sleep off Pac's Life and it is about 100x times better than Changed Man, I think your doing a little bandwagon jumping there to be honest buddy.
 
Local Star said:
Changed Man from Better Dayz shits on every track on this LP an Changed Man is a poor track.

Changed man is definately one of my favorite tracks, so yes it shits on the entire album (except for soon as I get home). But not because it sucks... At least that's how I feel. I love Better Dayz as a whole tho
 
Rukas said:
Pacs Life is better than LTTG because they didnt make Pac say shit he didnt say on this one and didnt destort his voice.

But regardless, you missed the whole point of this thread if youre comparing both of them...
I didn't miss the point of the thread, I just didn't have any comment about it (except maybe "I agree" but I didn't want to bust a carmi).

I just felt what I said needed to be said.
 
Rukas said:
Meltiger put it this way, when Im over your house and we drinking beer, would you EVER pop Pac's Life on (and I dont mean just to spite me hehe)? No. The album is trash, and I wont hold my breath for another good one, I did that after LTTG, and to some extent have been doing that since UTEOT.

And Tha_Dan, Ive been listening to Pac since 93. I was 10.

I'll support Ruk on that last statement and say it's almost certainly Papaz Song that got Ruk listening to Pac.


& would I put Pac's Life on? Nah. If I wanted to spite you I'd put Me Against The World on. Pac's best album. :thumb:


But if I had a choice between L2TG or Pac's Life, I would choose the later everytime. I'm not saying it's a great release, but it's an improvement on L2TG. Let's see what they do next time around before giving up altogether.
 
THA_DAN said:
i believe that, but you were not a fan to the same extent than the years following his death.

i mean, this is far from a real pac album, but dumpin' alone kills any track released since better dayz.
why do u think that people werent fans of 2pac until after his death just because u werent. I started listening to 2pac in 1992 as well once i heard I get around for the first time and saw him in the movie Juice which i snuck into see at the movie theater. All of my cds and tapes were bought THE SAME year that they were originally released...not in the years leading up to his deathrow days and death.
I have pictures of me wearing the backwards bandana like 2pac when i was 12 years old. Believe it or not, some people were just as intrigued with 2pac when he first came out as they were when he died.
 
Rukas said:
But regardless, you missed the whole point of this thread if youre comparing both of them...


Not really.


You have to look at it from the perspective of - Short of a duets album Pac & Puffy - L2TG was the worst possible effort they could make. Pac's Life IS an improvement on that.


The fact that they seem to refuse to let anyone from Death Row past (His time there) or present be involved in the production means we will never see a Still I Rise album. Remember, short of the DR logo - That WAS a DR release - You know what I mean here, At one stage up until it's release, Suge and Atheni were co-operating.
 
meltiger said:
But if I had a choice between L2TG or Pac's Life, I would choose the later everytime.

This translates to "they screwed up less", which means they still screwed up. We're not talking about an invention, this isn't supposed to be a trial and error process.
Pac was a great artist and deserves nothing less than a great release. Subpar is not the standard so Amaru doesn't deserve any kind of props. If they can't live up to those standards then they should just let him rest in peace and stop butchering his work.

These half-assed releases are an insult, not a tribute.
 
Chronic said:
This translates to "they screwed up less", which means they still screwed up. We're not talking about an invention, this isn't supposed to be a trial and error process.
Pac was a great artist and deserves nothing less than a great release. Subpar is not the standard so Amaru doesn't deserve any kind of props. If they can't live up to those standards then they should just let him rest in peace and stop butchering his work.

These half-assed releases are an insult, not a tribute.

People are over-reacting. As always.


RUSD - Dated beats, doesn't sound anything like Makaveli
SIR - Outlawz fucked it up
UTEOT - The Hooks sucked
BD - This Life I Lead sucked
L2TG - A Piece of trash
Pac's Life - Not enough Pac


This is a summation of 10 years of bitching from people who are *lucky* they have an internet connection and have been able to download bootlegs. Every single time an album comes out, there is something wrong with it.


The fact remains, we are not going to get original versions released, except in the rare cases where they don't have the Master DATs. Why, for 10 years do people still complain when they *know* Amaru will never release the songs in their original (& in many cases - shitty (World Wide Dime Piece was a piece of shit, and 30 seconds of listening can show someone why that was never released previously)) form?
 
Soon enough, the trend is going to be 'hate on people hating on Pac's recent albums'
 
It goes back to before that. If people hadn't whinged so badly about RUSD which was dope as fuck imho - Maybe we wouldn't see Pac's music bastardised like it is now.


I'm prepared to wait and see what they do with the next release though, personally I thought Better Dayz was a good album, some of the remixes are actually very good. If the next album can equal that, then I would certainly be happy.
 
meltiger said:
People are over-reacting. As always.


RUSD - Dated beats, doesn't sound anything like Makaveli
SIR - Outlawz fucked it up
UTEOT - The Hooks sucked
BD - This Life I Lead sucked
L2TG - A Piece of trash
Pac's Life - Not enough Pac


This is a summation of 10 years of bitching from people who are *lucky* they have an internet connection and have been able to download bootlegs. Every single time an album comes out, there is something wrong with it.


The fact remains, we are not going to get original versions released, except in the rare cases where they don't have the Master DATs. Why, for 10 years do people still complain when they *know* Amaru will never release the songs in their original (& in many cases - shitty (World Wide Dime Piece was a piece of shit, and 30 seconds of listening can show someone why that was never released previously)) form?

RUSD's beats didn't sound dated in 1997, especially when half of them were remixed
 

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