Film & TV Star Wars: Return Of The Sith, my opinion

Rukas

Capo Dei Capi
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#44
Pacaveli-T said:
considering i didnt watch the whole series cause i have no interest in it i think i did pretty damn well for discovering everything on my own :thumb: and even the other movies most didnt rake in as much $ either and just cause ppl know the ending doesnt mean they still have to see it. and considering i watched the movie as a favor i really doubt i care about the why or all that.i saw i figured out what it was all about and that is it simple and plain.

Like I said imo I don't like it is all.I'm quite entitled to it.
There is no way you worked out the plot to the whole saga by watching Episode 3, and certainly not in the first 20 minutes.

And are you saying that Titanic didnt "rake in as much $ either"?
 

Cooper

Well-Known Member
#45
I just saw it...not a huge star wars fan...I like the films but i aint gonna get my dick out over them.

i thought i was a good film, better than 1 + 2...only a couple of crap bits....but i aint gon point them out in case ppl havent seen it.
 
#46
Rukas said:
There is no way you worked out the plot to the whole saga by watching Episode 3, and certainly not in the first 20 minutes.

And are you saying that Titanic didnt "rake in as much $ either"?

Not at all, Titanitic is still the worlds top 3 movies that made the most money in theatres. No one said otherwise. We established this the first week it came out and its been a hard record to beat.

I'm talking plot in this movie not the whole series I mean get real you can't expect me to figure out all 6 I watched one movie and one movie is the plot I knew. I don't expect or want to know more than that.
 
#47
I saw it today..great movie. Especially when Yoda force throws those two royal guards into the wall, good shit. I also Expected General Grievious to be more of a menacing character, judging by the cartoon, but hes this coughing, weezing guy who gets cut down and stabbed through the heart in a matter of 5 minutes. Its a dissapointment, Grievious seemed like a badass.

A new hope really made a lot more sense to me after Revenge of the Sith. I mean, I knew BASICALLY what happened that led up to a new hope, but the stuff like when Vader and Obiwan are fighting in the Death Star in A new hope and vader is saying things like "We meet again" and "this time i will be the master". Things like that clicked more now.

Seeing Ep. 3 also made me realize the transition between the republic and the empire more and more. I had always thought that the Separatists turned into the Empire and Republic turned into the Rebels.

So in conclusion, the entire OG series (a new hope, empire strikes back, return of jedi) makes a lot more sense to me now
 
#49
im goin 2 watch this 2maro .... i just watched 1 & 2 so now i have 2 watch the rest. I never liked star wars untill this week lol .. star warz is acctually bad as fuck i like it


hey could any1 picture 2pac in any of the star wars movies? JW
 

7 Syns

Well-Known Member
#53
it was cool, i see alot of people hating on it and even more loving it. Im telling everyone now, you gotta see each starwars in set sequence to appreciate them all. before i went and saw episode 3 for the second time I watched episode 1 and 2, then saw episode 3 then came home and saw 4 to 6. everything connects so well with only the slightless of cracks here and there which when you think about it are irrelevant.

but one questions remains, from the time you meet annikan it's explained how he isn't born/concieved natrually. in episode 3 darth sidious/palpatine tells annikan about the legend of darth plaguies and how he could manipulate the force to create life and taught his apprentice the same skills/techniques before his apprentice obviously killed him off. his apprentice is no doubt sidious, as you can tell by his sudden grin right before he says "ironic, he could save others but couldn't save himself"..

is sidious/palpatine, annikans father? and was the entire saga or/and annikans life merely a part of the overall picture/plan in which sidious had created?

peace.
 

Rukas

Capo Dei Capi
Staff member
#54
7 Syns said:
it was cool, i see alot of people hating on it and even more loving it. Im telling everyone now, you gotta see each starwars in set sequence to appreciate them all. before i went and saw episode 3 for the second time I watched episode 1 and 2, then saw episode 3 then came home and saw 4 to 6. everything connects so well with only the slightless of cracks here and there which when you think about it are irrelevant.

but one questions remains, from the time you meet annikan it's explained how he isn't born/concieved natrually. in episode 3 darth sidious/palpatine tells annikan about the legend of darth plaguies and how he could manipulate the force to create life and taught his apprentice the same skills/techniques before his apprentice obviously killed him off. his apprentice is no doubt sidious, as you can tell by his sudden grin right before he says "ironic, he could save others but couldn't save himself"..

is sidious/palpatine, annikans father? and was the entire saga or/and annikans life merely a part of the overall picture/plan in which sidious had created?

peace.
I dont think he's his father directly, not genetically anyway, it was a virgin birth caused by the Force. But he is responsible for it.

Not sure if that makes him his father or not.
 
#55
Just watched the new Star Wars last night, thought it was awesome and completely made me forget about the first two crapfests.

Just a couple of things;

What is General Grievous? A Machine or a guy that became a machine like Darth Vader? If he's a machine why has he got a bad cough? And a heart??

And why are all the other Jedi's so crap? In Ep2 and Ep3 so many 'so called' Jedi's died from the idiotic Light-Sabre-over-the-head-charge and get shot in the chest. Even Grievous went out this way, is it a Jedi tactic or something?

Anyways, I reckon Lucas should go back and re-do the first two movies in this vain. It totally surpased my expectation of it.

Peace.
 
#56
I posted this is another thread also

After watching the old movies again.When you put this in the full context of the story, the story truly fails. Remember in Episode IV when Obi-Wan says he doesn't ever recall owning a droid when R2-D2 gets to him. C-3P0 is there too. Obi-Wan doesn't remember them? There were both only there when Luke and Lea were born not to mention the fact that he fought along side them in Episodes I, II, and III.


Vader is around to see R2-D2 at times. Never sparks a memory for him. R2-D2 went everywhere with Anakin. What Vader does not know the droid he is chasing in Episode IV is the same one he had a a child?

What about R2-D2 flying? Never saw that in the later episodes.

And finally what is up with the Death Star? Luke and Lea were just born and we see at the end of Episode III the Death Star half way built. The Death Star finally goes operational in Episode IV when they both are like 20 years old. So what, it took the clones 20 years to finish that Death Star. Remember Vader goes to the Death Star because they are behind schedule. What? 20 years behind? And what, the Rebel spies are so great it took them 20 years to intercept the plans to the Death Star? But after the Death Star was blown up in Episode IV, it only took like 2 years to rebuild it and get it operational.

In the end, Lucas painted himself into a corner. He knew where he had to get, but he still had to give the people enough of the stuff in Episode IV to make it somehow connect. In the end, though, he just cannot connect the dots.
 
#57
Think_ThuGLiFE said:
I posted this is another thread also

After watching the old movies again.When you put this in the full context of the story, the story truly fails. Remember in Episode IV when Obi-Wan says he doesn't ever recall owning a droid when R2-D2 gets to him. C-3P0 is there too. Obi-Wan doesn't remember them? There were both only there when Luke and Lea were born not to mention the fact that he fought along side them in Episodes I, II, and III.


Vader is around to see R2-D2 at times. Never sparks a memory for him. R2-D2 went everywhere with Anakin. What Vader does not know the droid he is chasing in Episode IV is the same one he had a a child?

What about R2-D2 flying? Never saw that in the later episodes.

And finally what is up with the Death Star? Luke and Lea were just born and we see at the end of Episode III the Death Star half way built. The Death Star finally goes operational in Episode IV when they both are like 20 years old. So what, it took the clones 20 years to finish that Death Star. Remember Vader goes to the Death Star because they are behind schedule. What? 20 years behind? And what, the Rebel spies are so great it took them 20 years to intercept the plans to the Death Star? But after the Death Star was blown up in Episode IV, it only took like 2 years to rebuild it and get it operational.

In the end, Lucas painted himself into a corner. He knew where he had to get, but he still had to give the people enough of the stuff in Episode IV to make it somehow connect. In the end, though, he just cannot connect the dots.


Hehe, I thought exactly the same thing about the Death Star at the end of Ep3.

Basically George Lucas did a pretty crap job of trying to incorporate every popular character's history into the 3 prequels.

Despite the size of the galaxy there's like 2 degrees of seperation between everyone; the fact Anakin built robots that his son (he never knew) then befriended, Chewbacca being friends with Yoda, Boba Fett's Dad being the design for ALL the stormtroopers, there was so many more little things that it got a bit annoying in the end.

I would have forgiven him for all of it if Anakin had killed Jar Jar Binks in a very slow painful way as he turned to the darkside.
 

Rukas

Capo Dei Capi
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#58
Think_ThuGLiFE said:
I posted this is another thread also

After watching the old movies again.When you put this in the full context of the story, the story truly fails. Remember in Episode IV when Obi-Wan says he doesn't ever recall owning a droid when R2-D2 gets to him. C-3P0 is there too. Obi-Wan doesn't remember them? There were both only there when Luke and Lea were born not to mention the fact that he fought along side them in Episodes I, II, and III.
Notice Obi Wabn does this mysterious sort of smirk/laugh after he meets the droids like hes not telling Luke everything he knows. He did hide a lot from Luke.

Vader is around to see R2-D2 at times. Never sparks a memory for him. R2-D2 went everywhere with Anakin. What Vader does not know the droid he is chasing in Episode IV is the same one he had a a child?
What did you expect Vader to burst into song and dance and go hug R2? He probably realized they were the same droids but didnt really care. It wouldnt have been that much of a suprise to him seeing as he sees them the first time with Obi Wan.

What about R2-D2 flying? Never saw that in the later episodes.
Yeah the flying was gay, I hated that about Ep 2. But eh, I can maybe believe the jets broke or something. :rolleyes:

And finally what is up with the Death Star? Luke and Lea were just born and we see at the end of Episode III the Death Star half way built. The Death Star finally goes operational in Episode IV when they both are like 20 years old. So what, it took the clones 20 years to finish that Death Star. Remember Vader goes to the Death Star because they are behind schedule. What? 20 years behind? And what, the Rebel spies are so great it took them 20 years to intercept the plans to the Death Star? But after the Death Star was blown up in Episode IV, it only took like 2 years to rebuild it and get it operational.
I always thought the second Death Star was being built while the first was getting finished. I don’t see how they could of built it in two years, it just seemed like their next plan cause it was bigger and that so it was always there the rebels just didn’t know about it.

Luke is about 18 in A New Hope. At the end of Ep 3 they build the frame, but they haven’t even enslaved the wookies yet who finish the building. Im sure they were busy taking over the galaxy maybe it did take them that long. Its possible.


In the end, Lucas painted himself into a corner. He knew where he had to get, but he still had to give the people enough of the stuff in Episode IV to make it somehow connect. In the end, though, he just cannot connect the dots.
It connected them rather well, nothing is unexplainably fucked. He just left a little too much to the imagination but I suspect he did that so that he could make more millions off the cartoons, comics and books that fill in the gaps that are yet to come out. Remember even Ep 4 to 5 to 6 have gaps.
 
#59
Think_ThuGLiFE said:
I posted this is another thread also

After watching the old movies again.When you put this in the full context of the story, the story truly fails. Remember in Episode IV when Obi-Wan says he doesn't ever recall owning a droid when R2-D2 gets to him. C-3P0 is there too. Obi-Wan doesn't remember them? There were both only there when Luke and Lea were born not to mention the fact that he fought along side them in Episodes I, II, and III.
Obi Wan does recognize R2-D2 in Ep IV,he says something like:"Hi,you!" as if he already knew him.Plus R2-D2 has never belong to Obi-Wan...and C-3PO was created by Anakin...

At the present time,Star Wars Ep III is maybe the best movie I've ever seen(with the Matrix Trilogy)...I'm patiently waiting for the new Spielberg with Tom Cruise,it's gonna be AWESOME!
 
#60
The thing I love about Star Wars is that it's visually a great movie no matter what. Just the way they CG'd those cities and planets and ships and stuff is so cool that even if the movie was bad (epsiode I and II), I loved it.

Episode III was the best Star Wars out of the six and there is so much more than visuals in it. I almost cried (which I only ever did at Titanic) as Anakin was sinking to the dark side, and if you've seen the movie, you'll know that his intentions were good. The big showdown with Anakin & Obi is good, although I still think that the best Lightsaber fight ever was Qui-gon & Obi VS. Darth Maul, from Episode I.

The conversations were ALL important and interesting, and you got a lot more information on the Force and the Republic and stuff like that.

Peace.
 

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