Ryan Dunn of Jackass killed in Car Crash

[Shadows]

I got pulled over for a .044. i drove perfectly but swerved bc an animal.

the tests are bullshit.

They said they dont know how i passed better than some sober people if i should technically have been some what impaired. lol

real shit though, you know if you're sober enough to drive or not.

 

[Sebastian]

real shit though, you know if you're sober enough to drive or not.

Is this a general comment?

 

[Shadows]

For me it is.

I've gotten drunk and passed out, but before I passed out, i could think logically, even if it took me longer.

If I was drunk, i would think, and say "i can't drive" and sleep there, bumb a ride, or walk home.

I think people that get behind the wall don't want to go through all that and want to seem invincible or responsible, when in reality they arent.

 

[Flipmo]

Yeah, I knew when I was able to drive and not. I hardly drink when I'm driving now, but in the past, I was still aware of my surroundings and how messed up I was. Shit, even the times it hit me as I was driving, I knew to stop at a street and just sleep it off. I also would make it a point to drive though the small streets where there were lower chances that other cars or people would be around. Just as an extra precaution. Still - I wouldn't take the chance anymore now...

 

[S O F I]

Here: "I better not take the car, fuck loosing my license for 3 years"
America: "Ah Ill be ok, its only a few blocks, even if I get caught its just a fine, maybe a couple of month with a suspended license"

That's oversimplifying the matter. Truth is, we are super scared here of getting a DUI, especially the mid to lower class people, ie. most people.

1. The fines range in the thousands. That's a lot of money. If you want to fight the DUI with a competent lawyer, the lawyer fees will range in the thousands.
2. When you get a DUI, you're arrested and booked into jail. If that's a Friday night, you're most likely getting out Monday. SO, that's spending some time in jail.
3. The DUI goes on your record. Many companies, ones that don't even require you to drive on the job, will not hire you if you have a DUI on your record.
4. If you have a DUI and admit to it, Canada will most likely forbid you from entering its country.
5. If you have a DUI, it's tougher to rent an apartment, secure a loan, etc.
6. If you work in law enforcement, ie. Customs, you will most likely lose your job if you're convicted of a DUI.

A DUI can make your life miserable in the States unless you're rich.

Also, people here get a lot of DUIs, not because of lax laws, but because of terrible alternatives. Our public transportation system is a fucking joke. A disaster. It's better in some cities like Chicago and NY, but in Seattle, you're fucked if you're going out on the weekend and don't have enough money to live downtown.

 

[S O F I]

Also, one thing in particular that is very scary about drunk driving is that most of us, when deciding whether to drive after consuming alcohol, consider different risks. We never think to ourselves, "I shouldn't drive, I could kill someone". I know I don't. I ask myself a more simple question. "In this state, can I operate a vehicle effectively enough not to arouse any suspicion from law enforcement?" That's the only question. People like Ryan Dunn will do 140mph even when sober, because they're in a fast car, rich, and adrenaline junkies. You only need one of those three to be doing 140mph in a careless manner.

 

[FroDawgg]

Here's the way I think it should be. You drive under the influence--regardless of there is any harm done--you serve time in jail (not Paris Hilton time) and you lose your license for good. Simple as that. You kill someone in the process, you go to jail for life. I don't wanna hear "Everyone makes mistakes". It's an avoidable dick move.

 

[ArtsyGirl]

I agree with you. Although he didn't start out doing 130mph from the pub. But, he was still drunk.

I am not a huge fan. But even if it was Kurt Cobain, Tupac or Anthony Kiedis.... I wouldn't be defending them. I am just trying to give it perspective.

That's what I meant. He endangered life from being drunk which started at the pub. When he started to speed he increased that by alot, mostly stacking that on the risk to himself and his passenger.

How can you disagree with me that is better to do something constructive than it is to criticize?

Give me an example of how someone can do something constructive regarding this without in some way criticizing?

The reason I have said the things I have in this thread is because it pisses me off that people are so selfish, I don't want to lose my life or those that I care about because some asshole (such as stefanwzyga) takes this kind of risk.

 

[Pittsey]

That's oversimplifying the matter. Truth is, we are super scared here of getting a DUI, especially the mid to lower class people, ie. most people.

1. The fines range in the thousands. That's a lot of money. If you want to fight the DUI with a competent lawyer, the lawyer fees will range in the thousands.
2. When you get a DUI, you're arrested and booked into jail. If that's a Friday night, you're most likely getting out Monday. SO, that's spending some time in jail.
3. The DUI goes on your record. Many companies, ones that don't even require you to drive on the job, will not hire you if you have a DUI on your record.
4. If you have a DUI and admit to it, Canada will most likely forbid you from entering its country.
5. If you have a DUI, it's tougher to rent an apartment, secure a loan, etc.
6. If you work in law enforcement, ie. Customs, you will most likely lose your job if you're convicted of a DUI.

A DUI can make your life miserable in the States unless you're rich.

Also, people here get a lot of DUIs, not because of lax laws, but because of terrible alternatives. Our public transportation system is a fucking joke. A disaster. It's better in some cities like Chicago and NY, but in Seattle, you're fucked if you're going out on the weekend and don't have enough money to live downtown.

Public transport is pretty shitty worldwide in developed countries. The best bus service I ever used was in Mexico. And it only cost me 20 cents.

 

[S O F I]

When I lived in Prague and visited Berlin, their transportation systems were awesome. You didn't need a car at all. I assume most of Europe is like that. If London is the exception, I'm not surprised, your country sucks.

 

[Prize Gotti]

Ok ok ok, answer me this then. If the system is not part of the problem, then why did he still have a valid legal drivers license?

46 driving convictions you should be BANNED FOR LIFE.

 

[Prize Gotti]

When I lived in Prague and visited Berlin, their transportation systems were awesome. You didn't need a car at all. I assume most of Europe is like that. If London is the exception, I'm not surprised, your country sucks.

London Public transport is the best service I've ever used. My local service all ways run late, in London every bus arrives bang on time. Also the added use of the London Underground and the DLR makes getting round London in minutes a doddle.

And Seb, you should know better than anyone, people do things that they regret but at the time thought it was a good idea. But then, i've all ways felt you're a hypocrite.

 

[Pittsey]

When I lived in Prague and visited Berlin, their transportation systems were awesome. You didn't need a car at all. I assume most of Europe is like that. If London is the exception, I'm not surprised, your country sucks.

London is good. It's the rest of Britain that struggles.

And as I have said before, England isn't similar to Europeans. We are part of the continent Europe but we have a separate identity more likened to the USA or Canada or Australia. To put it basically.... Countries we owned a couple of hundred years ago. (or are still part of the commonwealth)

But the subway in New York is also good. I'd imagine most major cities are on a par.

Not that I use public transport often. I drive or grab a cab.

I think you should visit London, you'd love it. I still consider it the best city in the world, although probably expensive for tourists. My second favourite is San Francisco.

 

[Sebastian]

London Public transport is the best service I've ever used. My local service all ways run late, in London every bus arrives bang on time. Also the added use of the London Underground and the DLR makes getting round London in minutes a doddle.

And Seb, you should know better than anyone, people do things that they regret but at the time thought it was a good idea. But then, i've all ways felt you're a hypocrite.

Once again, i have no idea what you are talking about. You make no sense. EDouble style.

 

[Flipmo]

This is so true. Everywhere I've traveller in North America its been trash. Ive been told public transportation in Spain is nothing short from amazing.

 

[Prize Gotti]

Once again, i have no idea what you are talking about. You make no sense. EDouble style.

Your ignorance just proves my point.

 

[S O F I]

London is good. It's the rest of Britain that struggles.

And as I have said before, England isn't similar to Europeans. We are part of the continent Europe but we have a separate identity more likened to the USA or Canada or Australia. To put it basically.... Countries we owned a couple of hundred years ago. (or are still part of the commonwealth)

But the subway in New York is also good. I'd imagine most major cities are on a par.

Not that I use public transport often. I drive or grab a cab.

I think you should visit London, you'd love it. I still consider it the best city in the world, although probably expensive for tourists. My second favourite is San Francisco.

I'm going to San Fran on July 8th. Pretty stoked about it.

 

[Sebastian]

Your ignorance just proves my point.

You aint got no point in the first place.

 

[Pittsey]

I'm going to San Fran on July 8th. Pretty stoked about it.

I love it there. People are friendly. Area is pretty nice, even when I rode a bicycle past Marin City it was all very idyllic. And the women are lovely. I met a lovely bar maid whose mother was from Manchester, in a bar named impala. She was gorgeous.

 

[S O F I]

Yeah, my friend lives on Nob HIll, a pretty nice area. I wanna go to Alcatraz