Proof that he's not alive.

[something]

In that Dutch documentary, that hot girl interviews the lv police chief and two people that worked at the coroner's office. All three of them said they saw him deceased. Now, there is the remote possibility that they would all lie (if they were bribed, threatened, whatever...). However, this would mean, if 2Pac had actually faked his death, he (or whoever was helping him organize the faking) would at some point have had to approach all these people to involve them in this plan and convince them to lie. Would he have risked having his entire plan exposed by trying to get these people to help him out? Definitely not, especially in the case of the police.

So how can the claims of these three people, who would lose their jobs (at the least) if they lied, be explained? The only possibility I can see is that they weren't lying, in which case there would have had to have been a body double. However, this would mean someone who looked identical to him would have to have died by gunshot wounds very close to the time he faked his death. What are the odds of that? Pretty nonexistant. Even if that could have been arranged, again, there's no way they would allow the plan to hinge on the fact that all these people would be fooled by a body double.

 

[Roaddogz]

pretty nonexistant? double body... could happen pal

 

[something]

pretty nonexistant? double body... could happen pal

But you don't just need a body double. You need a dead body double, with very specific injuries, who has died very close to when he faked his death.

This is also assuming the shooting was faked and he planned it before that. Otherwise, he needed a body double with the exact injuries that he obtained.

There's no way I can see either of those scenarios to be possible.

 

[Roaddogz]

But you don't just need a body double. You need a dead body double, with very specific injuries, who has died very close to when he faked his death.

This is also assuming the shooting was faked and he planned it before that. Otherwise, he needed a body double with the exact injuries that he obtained.

There's no way I can see either of those scenarios to be possible.

well i still beleive pac is gone, r.i.p but im jus sayin, it could b possible

 

[something]

well i still beleive pac is gone, r.i.p but im jus sayin, it could b possible

Yeah, the body double is possible. But it's not possible that 2Pac would go through all the work involved in planning this faking, just to have it rely on the incredibly unlikely scenario of finding a body double.

 

[PrinceMakaveli]

i like to believe that pac is gone not dead and not alive just gone. saying he's just gone lets us think and dream that mayb he is alive for those of us who think he truely is alive but also at the same time have in the back of their head he might be gone.vice versa for those of us who think he dead.

 

[Roaddogz]

In that Dutch documentary, that hot girl interviews the lv police chief and two people that worked at the coroner's office. All three of them said they saw him deceased. Now, there is the remote possibility that they would all lie (if they were bribed, threatened, whatever...). However, this would mean, if 2Pac had actually faked his death, he (or whoever was helping him organize the faking) would at some point have had to approach all these people to involve them in this plan and convince them to lie. Would he have risked having his entire plan exposed by trying to get these people to help him out? Definitely not, especially in the case of the police.

So how can the claims of these three people, who would lose their jobs (at the least) if they lied, be explained? The only possibility I can see is that they weren't lying, in which case there would have had to have been a body double. However, this would mean someone who looked identical to him would have to have died by gunshot wounds very close to the time he faked his death. What are the odds of that? Pretty nonexistant. Even if that could have been arranged, again, there's no way they would allow the plan to hinge on the fact that all these people would be fooled by a body double.

still no solid proof there pal... it needa be solid like pac sayin it or seein a real body or sumin... ain gona happen

 

[Strictly 4]

In that Dutch documentary, that hot girl interviews the lv police chief and two people that worked at the coroner's office. All three of them said they saw him deceased. Now, there is the remote possibility that they would all lie (if they were bribed, threatened, whatever...). However, this would mean, if 2Pac had actually faked his death, he (or whoever was helping him organize the faking) would at some point have had to approach all these people to involve them in this plan and convince them to lie. Would he have risked having his entire plan exposed by trying to get these people to help him out? Definitely not, especially in the case of the police.

So how can the claims of these three people, who would lose their jobs (at the least) if they lied, be explained? The only possibility I can see is that they weren't lying, in which case there would have had to have been a body double. However, this would mean someone who looked identical to him would have to have died by gunshot wounds very close to the time he faked his death. What are the odds of that? Pretty nonexistant. Even if that could have been arranged, again, there's no way they would allow the plan to hinge on the fact that all these people would be fooled by a body double.

those people could have been lying... you seriously dont kno and cant doubt that.. not sayin hes alive.. but still if he is.. look at how many people would have to be lying... 3 more would be no biggie

 

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those people could have been lying... you seriously dont kno and cant doubt that.. not sayin hes alive.. but still if he is.. look at how many people would have to be lying... 3 more would be no biggie

True, but my point is not that they couldn't have been lying, but that Pac never would have risked approaching these people to get them to lie in the first place. The chances that they would have given his plan away would have been far too high.

I'm trying to look at this from 2Pac's point of view while he was planning faking his death. And the things that he would have had to have done considering what we know happened just don't make sense. There's certain people, like family and friends, that he might trust with the secret, but there's no way he'd ever risk trusting the people at the coroner's, let alone a police officer.

 

[Strictly 4]

yeah, true it is a big chance... but u dont kno how much money could have been involved... and plus...

 

[something]

yeah, true it is a big chance... but u dont kno how much money could have been involved... and plus...

But even if he had millions of dollars to use as bribes, he still at some point would have had to approach these people to see if they'd accept the bribes. And no matter how big the bribes, he still doesn't know before hand that they'd accept, and the consequences of them not accepting are that his whole plan would be ruined. I just can't see him taking that risk.

 

[Strictly 4]

after this statement, this whole death forum should be closed in my opinion lol

"only god knows"

peace, lol

 

[Butt Rubber]

In that Dutch documentary, that hot girl interviews the lv police chief and two people that worked at the coroner's office. All three of them said they saw him deceased. Now, there is the remote possibility that they would all lie (if they were bribed, threatened, whatever...). However, this would mean, if 2Pac had actually faked his death, he (or whoever was helping him organize the faking) would at some point have had to approach all these people to involve them in this plan and convince them to lie. Would he have risked having his entire plan exposed by trying to get these people to help him out? Definitely not, especially in the case of the police.

So how can the claims of these three people, who would lose their jobs (at the least) if they lied, be explained? The only possibility I can see is that they weren't lying, in which case there would have had to have been a body double. However, this would mean someone who looked identical to him would have to have died by gunshot wounds very close to the time he faked his death. What are the odds of that? Pretty nonexistant. Even if that could have been arranged, again, there's no way they would allow the plan to hinge on the fact that all these people would be fooled by a body double.

nobody would keep their mouths shut that long if Pac had really bribed the doctors, nurses, coronors, any witnesses and all the people helping him hide in the first place

not to mention all the people Pac allegedly spent the last 8 years "recording new songs with alive theories in them" with.

but hey, West Africa says 2pac faked his death because 2pac gave us clues in a song he wrote from 1991, so you have to ignore all the stuff I mentioned above

 

[Strictly 4]

nobody would keep their mouths shut that long if Pac had really bribed the doctors, nurses, coronors, any witnesses and all the people helping him hide in the first place

not to mention all the people Pac allegedly spent the last 8 years "recording new songs with alive theories in them" with.

but hey, West Africa says 2pac faked his death because 2pac gave us clues in a song he wrote from 1991, so you have to ignore all the stuff I mentioned above

that was a very good point.. i wonder what alive theorists would have to say about that

 

[something]

nobody would keep their mouths shut that long if Pac had really bribed the doctors, nurses, coronors, any witnesses and all the people helping him hide in the first place

not to mention all the people Pac allegedly spent the last 8 years "recording new songs with alive theories in them" with.

but hey, West Africa says 2pac faked his death because 2pac gave us clues in a song he wrote from 1991, so you have to ignore all the stuff I mentioned above

Yeah, exactly. But the point is, he would never have risked trying to bribe them in the first place. Meaning they're telling the truth. Meaning he's dead.

 

[Roaddogz]

Yeah, exactly. But the point is, he would never have risked trying to bribe them in the first place. Meaning they're telling the truth. Meaning he's dead.

sorry i didnt kno you knew tupac so personally

 

[something]

sorry i didnt kno you knew tupac so personally

Obviously it's just my opinion. But just put yourself in his position. Assuming he was faking his death, with all the planning involved in setting it up, and all the risks that he's facing if he's discovered, can you really picture him going to the coroners or the police and asking them to go along with his plan and keep it a secret? There's no way anyone with any intelligence is going to do that.

 

[Strictly 4]

Obviously it's just my opinion. But just put yourself in his position. Assuming he was faking his death, with all the planning involved in setting it up, and all the risks that he's facing if he's discovered, can you really picture him going to the coroners or the police and asking them to go along with his plan and keep it a secret? There's no way anyone with any intelligence is going to do that.

yeah true

 

[tRoUbLeSoMe96]

nobody would keep their mouths shut that long if Pac had really bribed the doctors, nurses, coronors, any witnesses and all the people helping him hide in the first place

not to mention all the people Pac allegedly spent the last 8 years "recording new songs with alive theories in them" with.

but hey, West Africa says 2pac faked his death because 2pac gave us clues in a song he wrote from 1991, so you have to ignore all the stuff I mentioned above

fuck west africa and his bullshit theories!!!!!

 

[Hurts]

So hm..why don't yall go 2 Vegas for a ''second'' investigation?