Omnipotent Benevolence

[devils_advok8]

that thing about the tsunami was just stupid, damn are you really that brainwashed to believe shit like that???...

no, Minardi, I guess those pics were just photoshopped

 

[Glockmatic]

which one?

After the martyrdom of the family of the Prophet at Kerbala in 61 Hijri (681 AD), the Ummayad Caliph Yazid Ibne Moawiya did not stop there in the pursuit of his destruction. He sent a large contingent under the command of Haseen Ibne Namir to Madina which destroyed the Mosque of the Prophet. They did not stop there but proceeded to Makka and demolished the four walls of the Ka’aba and killed thousands of muslims who protested.

destruction of the kaaba is the destruction of islam? Come on man, if you base your faith on a building thats just sad

 

[Minardi]

no, Minardi, I guess those pics were just photoshopped

aight, so you can provide pictures where all is TOTALLY destroyed, and the only thing standing is a mosque??? link plz.

 

[TecK NeeX]

aight, so you can provide pictures where all is TOTALLY destroyed, and the only thing standing is a mosque??? link plz.

not just one mosque but several of them

banda aceh indonesia

 

[TecK NeeX]

banda aceh indonesia

 

[Minardi]

if you look on the pictures its quite clear why it lasted the tsunami??? i would of been amazed if it was a building made out of wood, i even thought most of the mosques there where made out off it...

funny that you believers can twist things like this into a sign from god... if all the buildings around the mosque was in massive stone they would have lasted too, just like most of the hotels and other strong buildings did...

 

[Sebastian]

Johan said he was amazed that so many mosques survived, but added that he believed countless other mosques were surely destroyed.

``All the mosques built by imams are saved. The ones ruined were built by regular people,'' said Johan. ``Those built by the imams are graced with strong foundations.''

http://www.planetsave.com/ViewStory.asp?ID=5594

 

[TecK NeeX]

if you look on the pictures its quite clear why it lasted the tsunami??? i would of been amazed if it was a building made out of wood, i even thought most of the mosques there where made out off it...

funny that you believers can twist things like this into a sign from god... if all the buildings around the mosque was in massive stone they would have lasted too, just like most of the hotels and other strong buildings did...

im not twisting anything, you asked for pictures of mosques that remained standing after the tsunami and i did, plus in Banda Aceh the general populace's structures were built predominately out of wood, or a wood/brick/stone mix, and not very strong, 2 of the 5 mosques i posted were built out of painted wood

 

[Minardi]

for the record, your pictures arent proved real :

http://www.themasjid.org/forum/view...start=15&sid=a2aaffd33bcccfdc25165ca3af277927

i like how the one muslim that was asking questions about the picture gets ruled down lol...

 

[TecK NeeX]

for the record, your pictures arent proved real :

http://www.themasjid.org/forum/view...start=15&sid=a2aaffd33bcccfdc25165ca3af277927...

oh now those pics are fake because they havent been proved to be real? you cant get anymore rediculous man. where the hell were you just days after the tsunami hit? did you not see the hundreds of videos shot from helicopters by the u.s military, foreign journalists etc? they have VIDEOS of those pics, wow

 

[devils_advok8]

destruction of the kaaba is the destruction of islam? Come on man, if you base your faith on a building thats just sad

no, I'm not religious actually, but I believe in Allah and everything mentioned in the Quran and by our prophet pbuh.You could try and nuke Al Kaaba, but it wont be destroyed, it may not even go anywhere near it.Teck explained it and I couldnt expand it any further

 

[Minardi]

oh now those pics are fake because they havent been proved to be real? you cant get anymore rediculous man. where the hell were you just days after the tsunami hit? did you not see the hundreds of videos shot from helicopters by the u.s military, foreign journalists etc? they have VIDEOS of those pics, wow

remember the media aint trustworthy, or am i wrong?

and no i didnt see pictures live from the media showing mosques. i saw lots of buildings surviving however, while some of the weakest didnt...

 

[TecK NeeX]

remember the media aint trustworthy, or am i wrong?

yes the western media that shot those videos went to all the trouble to fake not only the pics but the videos as well to please muslims. you cant get any more lame

 

[Glockmatic]

no, I'm not religious actually, but I believe in Allah and everything mentioned in the Quran and by our prophet pbuh.You could try and nuke Al Kaaba, but it wont be destroyed, it may not even go anywhere near it.Teck explained it and I couldnt expand it any further

It WAS destroyed before, it was almost destroyed in the 80s, it CAN destroyed. The black stone inside was broken into pieces by fires set by man, and it was stolen before by man. Just look at history and it shows that the building isn't indestructable. You sound like the people who said that Rome would never fall.

 

[Minardi]

yes the western media that shot those videos went to all the trouble to fake not only the pics but the videos as well to please muslims. you cant get any more lame

then prove they are real? who took the photographs?

 

[backhand]

i dont hate jesus, ihate his fan club, crickety crackhead bible thumpers

 

[TecK NeeX]

then prove they are real? who took the photographs?

who took the photographs? lol what kind of a stupid question is that? does it matter who took the photograph? hundreds of photographers took similar pictures, they even showed some of them on CNN when colin powel toured the hit areas areas in banda aceh in a helicopter. not only that but the fact that thousands of articles mention the 12+ mosques survived the tsunami is proof enough that those pics are real, go ask the thousands of indonesians who took refuge in those mosques during the disaster, i cant believe how fuckin arrogant you are.

 

[Yahya]

Peace,

The Ka'abah can be destroyed 'cause it's a physicial scripture, however, Allah SWT will not allow it. In 570 CE, Abrah (governor of Yemen -- at that point it was under the rule of Abyssinia) attempted to destroy the Ka'abah with a battalion of elephants. They Muslims did not attempt to protect the Ka'abbah and told Abrah that Allah SWT would Protect his Possessions. When Abrah gave the order to advance, the elelphants refused to march on the Ka'abah. Then the sky became darkened with flocks of birds named [Ababil]. Each of them carried 3 stones -- one in each claw and the other in its beak. The soldiers of Abrah were stuck with stones and died instantly, save Abah who died a painful slow death. This incident was witnessed by all the citizens of the Meccans, and thus the year became known as the 'Year of the Elephant'.

Allah SWT revealed this Chapther:
In the Name of Allah, Mos Gracious, the Most Merciful. Have you not seen how Allah dealt with the companions of the Elephant? Did He not cause their schemes to go astray? And He sent against them flights of birds pelting them with stones of baked clay, so that He made them like straw eaten (by cattle).

In short, the Ka'abah is protected by the Almighty.

for the record, your pictures arent proved real

The images captured relatin' tthe Mosques that 'survived' Tsunami are not photoshopped. This again is an another act of dishonesty demonstrated by Minardi. A atheist who relies on "evidence" and yet cannot acknowledge evidence presented by the other side and has to dodge it by labelin' it as 'fake'.

The amusin' part has to be the part where you quote a message board instead of a reputable source.

USATODAY reports:

The structures that remain offer solace to many residents. Just blocks away at the center of town stands the giant Baiturrahman Mosque. Like several other mosques, it survived the waves — a blessing residents are quick to identify.

Five times a day, starting at 5 a.m., the call to prayer can be heard throughout the city. "The prayer services are islands of solace in this chaos," says a woman leaving the mosque. "Our conversations with Allah are what hold us together."

"It is a sign from God that the mosques were saved," says Siti Aisah, standing outside Masjid Bairurrahim Mosque, near the beach. "There is a message in all this that we should all be taking care to move closer to Him."

and dozens other sources.

‘God's invisible hand’ saved Indonesia’s mosques
http://www.middle-east-online.com/english/culture/?id=12318

After the martyrdom of the family of the Prophet at Kerbala in 61 Hijri (681 AD), the Ummayad Caliph Yazid Ibne Moawiya did not stop there in the pursuit of his destruction. He sent a large contingent under the command of Haseen Ibne Namir to Madina which destroyed the Mosque of the Prophet. They did not stop there but proceeded to Makka and demolished the four walls of the Ka’aba and killed thousands of muslims who protested.

That reference is totally fabricated. The site you quoted is from a Shia source which holds a grudge with Muawiya since he battled against Ali (ra).

 

[Sebastian]

Yahya, some (not even all) are still standing simply because they were built with stronger foundations etc....and nothing else.

Johan said he was amazed that so many mosques survived, but added that he believed countless other mosques were surely destroyed.

``All the mosques built by imams are saved. The ones ruined were built by regular people,'' said Johan. ``Those built by the imams are graced with strong foundations.''

http://www.planetsave.com/ViewStory.asp?ID=5594

 

[Minardi]

Give a source other then muslim sites then...

yall are so quick when wanting sources for something, now i ask the same.
i wont comment on wether i believe the pictures are real or not because obviously i really dont care.

1. if they are fake, its just another "miracle" hoax, i put "" because i dont really see strong buildings such as hotels and other structures as miracles if they didnt crush.

and

2. if its real, it was just stronger then the nearby buildings (yet other strong buildings can be seen still standing on some of the pictures, are these blessed by allah too? or was that buddha?)