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masta247 said:
Thanks for the link Sofi. I didn't have like 90% of these songs and I visit this section regularly lmfao.

This was leaked lately but "Amerikka Eatz Itz Young" is just a shitty remix of some old bay area track:

Pre-DR Batch Leaks:

Tracklist:

Amerikka Eatz Itz Young
Hellrazor
High Till I Die
Hold On Be Strong
My Block
My Only Fear Of Death
Nothing To Lose
Out On Bail
R U Still Down
Sucka 4 Love
Thugz Get Lonely Too
When I Get Free
Where Do We Go From Here
Wonder Why They Call U Bitch (PRE-DEATH ROW VERSION)
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FFS i thought these were original.
 
Sandeep14 said:
FFS i thought these were original.
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they are. it's a remix, but one that was made while Pac was still alive. just listen to the song, and to Pac's verse, this was recorded before he went to jail imo. And Young Lay's "Black & Dangerous" album was released in 96, meaning Got 2 Survive probably came later. To whoever asked about this earlier.
 
yak pac fatal said:
holla at me demo is dope
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Yes it is because it's totally different and I love that song. The Outro is awesome. The retail version is so better though imo.

But I think that I'll be fair saying that most other tracks were nicely refined for the final release. Beats sound better on the Retail album.
There are some elements that I wish they left though, like Shorty Wanna be a thug intro and outro. That piano or whatever it is sounds very nice without drums.
 
It doesn't matter to most people and 96kbps wouldn't sound as bad anyway. Most people don't really care about quality of these leaks unless it's very terrible like that old ass "Till my Dyin day" bad quality leak. Which seems to make the song sound better than it really is.

I just don't understand why they even convert these leaks to wav. There are no leaks I can think of that would do justice to a 192kbps mp3, not to even mention wav. Still most people will only listen to these tracks once or twice and that's it. Even if they were in perfect quality a 128kbps mp3 would be enough - faster to download and quality that doesn't make a difference to 99% of 2pac leak downloaders.
 
masta247 said:
I just don't understand why they even convert these leaks to wav. There are no leaks I can think of that would do justice to a 192kbps mp3, not to even mention wav. Still most people will only listen to these tracks once or twice and that's it. Even if they were in perfect quality a 128kbps mp3 would be enough - faster to download and quality that doesn't make a difference to 99% of 2pac leak downloaders.
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There are many reasons why they leak in wav, and you're really asking several questions in one.

All songs originate from a source, be it a DAT, CD, tape or vinyl. Some songs sourced by collectors were received as digital data files, and some of those were actually in WAV format to begin with. Other times, collectors would get their hands on personal cassette tapes Tupac brought from the studio to bump in the car, or to give to friends and family. Even though the tape format has its limitations in quality, a raw WAV rip will still contain more information about the sound than a compressed file. If you wanted to remaster or mix any selection of these songs for your own mixtape (which a lot of collectors have done), a WAV file will be a better work print than an encoded file. Some songs came from a bad quality source, but encoding those songs to MP3 would just take even more away from the quality, and would limit the sound spectrum if you wanted to do any kind of signal processing.

I believe many of these leaks were ripped straight to WAV from the source material, especially the SIR and AEOM original albums. The pre-Death Row leaks were from a tape source, but even those were probably ripped to WAV from said tape.

With today's harddrives, it makes perfect sense to leak in WAV. You will never be able to buy these songs, and a while after these leaks are done they will start to get re-encoded, YouTube'd, remixed, and you won't find them as easily all in one place anymore. If you want to burn a CD of unreleased songs in a year from now, having the WAV files means you will have the best possible quality of the songs. You can burn them as an audio CD to store on your shelf and rip MP3's from that CD and you would have top quality MP3's with little to no quality loss from the actual burning of the CD, so you don't even have to store the WAV files. If you choose to, hard disk drives these days come with 2 TB+. WAV rips = make your own true 16bit 44.1khz audio CDs without quality loss. MP3s = will never sound as great on any system greater than a boombox.

yak pac fatal said:
are these the tracks dante bought and sold/tried to sell?
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no
 
Preach said:
There are many reasons why they leak in wav, and you're really asking several questions in one.

All songs originate from a source, be it a DAT, CD, tape or vinyl. Some songs sourced by collectors were received as digital data files, and some of those were actually in WAV format to begin with. Other times, collectors would get their hands on personal cassette tapes Tupac brought from the studio to bump in the car, or to give to friends and family. Even though the tape format has its limitations in quality, a raw WAV rip will still contain more information about the sound than a compressed file. If you wanted to remaster or mix any selection of these songs for your own mixtape (which a lot of collectors have done), a WAV file will be a better work print than an encoded file. Some songs came from a bad quality source, but encoding those songs to MP3 would just take even more away from the quality, and would limit the sound spectrum if you wanted to do any kind of signal processing.

I believe many of these leaks were ripped straight to WAV from the source material, especially the SIR and AEOM original albums. The pre-Death Row leaks were from a tape source, but even those were probably ripped to WAV from said tape.

With today's harddrives, it makes perfect sense to leak in WAV. You will never be able to buy these songs, and a while after these leaks are done they will start to get re-encoded, YouTube'd, remixed, and you won't find them as easily all in one place anymore. If you want to burn a CD of unreleased songs in a year from now, having the WAV files means you will have the best possible quality of the songs. You can burn them as an audio CD to store on your shelf and rip MP3's from that CD and you would have top quality MP3's with little to no quality loss from the actual burning of the CD, so you don't even have to store the WAV files. If you choose to, hard disk drives these days come with 2 TB+. WAV rips = make your own true 16bit 44.1khz audio CDs without quality loss. MP3s = will never sound as great on any system greater than a boombox.


no
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Some of the tracks were sourced by people who post / used to post here.... But not the recent leaks.




As for Wav's.... I know that a lot of these would sound equally good (or bad) as an mp3 or Flac.... And they wouldn't take up 10 times the space.
 
As I mentioned before, If you take a closer look at SiR og's some of them are actually converted from lower quality source to a wav and you can clearly notice it. It's just weird that some songs are clear as fuck and the ones that we already heard have bs static in background vocals.
 
Pittsey said:
As for Wav's.... I know that a lot of these would sound equally good (or bad) as an mp3 or Flac.... And they wouldn't take up 10 times the space.
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They will, but... how to explain how the wave makes a difference...

Think of a kid who gets a birth defect. As the child grows into adult form, the defect will "mutate" with it. But if the child was healthy to begin with, that would never happen. Apply some similar concept to audio editing when you limp it by reducing the quality of the source. Any further signal processing will distort the recording. You know how digital colors have hexadecimal codes? #66FF33 and #33FF00 are very similar looking colors, but the actual data code is an entirely different string. In the same way, encoding an audio file will distort the data code to no longer truly represent what was originally ripped. You don't get this problem with raw, lossless formats. In a min-maxing sense, if you imagine that someone wanted to remaster any of these songs, having the raw wave will ensure a better end result.

edit: I think it's important to distinguish between different lacks of quality. The tape format has limitations because it is an analogue format, like the vinyl. In the mind's eye you can picture a needle scraping against a surface with little holes and cracks in it to create vibrations that are amplified using electrical power, turning them into larger vibrations in the air. This process is a science, a result of physical alteration of the sound waves in the air. It is a dynamic process. When digital audio is compressed, what really happens is, the decoder (your MP3 player) simulates what the song should sound like based on the information that is not there. You don't have to take a very special interest in digital audio to notice the differences between a remastered MP3 and a remastered WAV.

edit 2: and i'm using the term "remaster" loosely because people get what I mean
 
^^

I agree with you


And yes the source material can be worked on in a studio... But an Mp3 can't... I get that... I just think that someone like yourself will say to a few people the benefits of Wav files. Then it soon spreads like wildfire that WAVs are the holy grail.... Everyone is posting them and leeching them, yet they don't know why. Just because some educated guy says Waves are better.

How many of the leechers are going to pay to take the leaks to a studio?

I'm not arguing your point... I agree... I just find it laughable that these leechers are caliming superior quality because they are Waves. Same with CDQ.... If the source isn't in a good quality then you aren't going to get CDQ no matter what bit rate the file. If you can hear hiss.... If the drums are loud... If the vocals are quiet.... If it isn't mixed.... It isn't CDQ.
 
Preach said:
they are. it's a remix, but one that was made while Pac was still alive. just listen to the song, and to Pac's verse, this was recorded before he went to jail imo. And Young Lay's "Black & Dangerous" album was released in 96, meaning Got 2 Survive probably came later. To whoever asked about this earlier.
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remixes as in features from other artists or just different beats?
 
Sandeep14 said:
remixes as in features from other artists or just different beats?
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it's just a guess, but i'd bet money that pac recorded "amerikkka eatz its young" and one of the other people featured on the song got to keep it, then the verse ended up getting cut out and put in a young lay song. either as a favor for a favor, or maybe it was young lay who got to keep it in the first place. i played through "amerikka..." once so i don't remember who was on it atm.

i heard so much stuff about oakland rappers, one projected theory of mine is that young lay got the verse over some dope or something haha
 
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