Makaveli and Biggie

[B-art]

From the very last day of his life:

"I told you punks that I was after Biggie, you got involved,now we 'bout to bust on all y'all"

"Biggie, BANG!"

He was relocating his focus to other people as has been said a lot of times now, but peace wasn't really in the air.

""I lost respect for you ***** we can never be friends"

 

[radkin]

I always think that pac was getting all the last things said that he wanted to touch on, that album feels like he knew he was gonna die and it was like his goodbye with all quetsions answered and everyone outed, I think that he had maybe finished attacking biggie and had bigger fish to fry.

 

[Makaveli2k4]

Truth be told I don’t think Ive really listened to Makaveli in about a year. Not because I don’t like it, quite the opposite, I like it so much it makes me more mad and sad to have lost Tupac. I didn’t really post an RIP message on the board, but damn, Jon and I were talking yesterday about how much ‘Pac really has influenced our lives in light of his son being born soon. Anyway, Makaveli is just that piece of music that moves me. I still get shivers up my spine with some tracks.

Anyway last night I was driving home from my girls house and found myself analyzing Pac’s words more rather than just feeling them. Apart from strengthening my opinion that he was underrated as a lyricist (lots of double play on the CD for example), I notice that Pac doesn’t really attack Biggie at all on the CD. He barely mentions him, one of the Outlawz mentions the King Of New York on Bomb First, but Pac doesn’t really throw any shots at Big. And that’s kind of surprising because he attacks EVERYONE else. I mean, Hit Em Up really is nothing compared to Against All Odds. You have to remember this is 96, a different time, no one really mentioned big time New York gangsters on tracks back then, let alone dissed them.

Then you have all the shots thrown at Nas, Mobb Deep, Puff Daddy and Bad Boy, Jay Z and others, but Makaveli doesn’t really mention Biggie. Kind of makes you think… Was ‘Pac just not giving a fuck about BIG or was he forgiving him?

You got to remember some tracks didn't make the album, so maybe the tracks they didn't make the album mention biggie. We'll never know.

 

[Hituup]

well thats pretty much the music i mean.. let me clarify that...the unreleased clips

True. But I think we have a lot of repetitiveness because I don't think he had the chance to go back and re-edit all the songs, meaning eliminating lyrics, eliminating lines, changing rhymes, etc. A song like "Whatchu Gonna Do" with Storm has always seemed to me like Pac didn't have the song lyrically ready for an album release.

But at the same time I thought Tupac intentionally had repetition in his lyrics to have a stronger reacher to those he wanted to touch. Like he said, there was a technique with his pronunciation of certain words to reach those that were living "Thug Life". I also think the repetition in his lyrics were also a technique, but I don't think he ever got to touch on that.

 

[AnarchistFunk]

i think Biggie was dead to Pac, he aired out some stuff, mostly Hit Em Up, and that was that, more like hes not gonna give him any fame or attention, i killed you in hit em up now youre dead to me, if i see you i see you, thats it

 

[Casey]

'Pac didn't need to over mention it, he had already proved his point and said what he needed to say, I think if Biggie had responded, then 'Pac would have smashed him up, but Big never did...

 

[Think_ThuGLiFE]

Seemed like he already made hit em up.. He destroyed biggie with that .. so He wantd 2 switch it up every1 knows he hates big so hes thinkin" lets take care of these guys now".

Like he already did that , so he took it some where eles.

Agaisnt all odds is 1 of my fav diss songs.... The way its all put 2gether . From the way hes screaming shyt behind his verse to how he made this whole track into a war record not a diss record.

What rapper even these days diss Gangsters/Mobster n shyt...


2pac made nas his lil bytch in that song.. Just makin nas loook like a punk.



Rukas i feel tha same way u do bout this album , its on a whole diff level.