Just Curious

[ThugPound]

im just curious 2 know Why snoop actin like he was neutral and wasnt beefin wit badboys back in da days, although he said it on radio dat he could do songs wit biggie
Almost every song he made wit pac was dissin badboys
2 of amerikaz most wanted "Video) piggy version
wanted dead or life " (Its a gangsta party and badboys gettin burried
street life = (bomb the clip and see the track smokin cause real badboy killas be them gat toaters)
Out the moon boom boom=(This is Thug Life Go tell them Busta's Up at Bad Boy records That tricks got a big mouth)

 

[matthewj]

and the house of blues when pac is dissing biggie. snoops laughing etc

 

[masta247]

yeah I was wondering that too. Even if beef doesn't last forever n he was beefin with Bad Boy because his friend was, when his friend died he shouldn't talk with Puffy at all. He should do it for Pac. When i was watchin some award show last year i think when Snoop was on the scene with Puffy actin like friends I was a bit mad because he shown no respect to Pac after all. But fuck that. Snoop changed over those years

 

[BigSin]

Snoop was a bitch and still is a bitch dont get me wrong he made good songs back in the day hes new style is wack he has no respect for pac memory talking with that punk puffy

 

[DeeezNuuuts83]

I think that at that particular point in his career, Snoop felt like his own man and was old enough (just about the same age as Pac) to make his own decisions. While the songs you listed (2 of Amerikaz Most Wanted, Wanted Dead or Alive, etc.) include some sort of diss, it was Pac who was doing it. And it's not like Snoop is going to tell Pac to not say this or to not say that. (As a side note, "Out the Moon" was recorded first without Pac, then his lyrics were added later.)

Snoop probably just got tired of it, probably because it wasn't his really his beef so he had little motivation to ever encourage it in the first place, hence his facial expressions during their interview at the MTV VMAs... he was usually not showing any expression when Pac was dissing Bad Boy ("If they want drama, we gon' bring it like only Death Row can bring it," etc.) but he was kind of nodding when Pac would say something mature about the problem ("We are businessmen, we are not animals, it's not like we're gonna jump on them or rush them when we see them," etc.). Plus I'm sure Snoop knows about a lot of other diss tracks that Pac recorded, and he probably felt everything was complete overkill.

yeah I was wondering that too. Even if beef doesn't last forever n he was beefin with Bad Boy because his friend was, when his friend died he shouldn't talk with Puffy at all. He should do it for Pac. When i was watchin some award show last year i think when Snoop was on the scene with Puffy actin like friends I was a bit mad because he shown no respect to Pac after all. But fuck that. Snoop changed over those years

I think it was cool for Snoop to get along with Puffy after Biggie died (since it was time for everyone to stop beefing and just get along), but he was so quick to want to end the beef, even when Pac was alive. Yet it was him who was onstage at the '95 Source Awards arguing with a booing East Coast crowd, and it was his trailer that got shot up in New York, probably because of Biggie's phone call to Hot 97 that night. While Snoop's decisions might've been less appealing and exciting to us, he was at least trying to be mature. And he's still with us today, so maybe he made the right choices.

 

[ThugPound]

Deeznuuts, You're right in many ways homie, but i was thinkin when dre was beefin wit eazy e, snoop was on dre's side and dissed eazy
so why this time snoop would play neutral n couldnt be on pac's side and diss pac's enemies, as he did when dre was beefin wit eazy
cuz ya know if a guy attacks ya , that mean he attack ya whole record label,
Ja rule attacks 50, and suddenly eminem, dre,obie trice, busta rhymes, d12...the whole label attack Ja and murder inc back

 

[EDouble]

i can hear the maturity shit but its not even like he made it any public that He wanted to stay neutral with shit.

with the maturity, and how 'still tryin to do that.', snoops always confused. everyone talks how his music is Supposed to be different now, with him bein married with kids and this and that. but one minute hes rappin different and then the next hes crippin and fuckin bitches

 

[Kadafi Son]

but one minute hes rappin different and then the next hes crippin and fuckin bitches

doesnt snoop freestyle his verses like jayz?

 

[MOBnigga06]

\and it was his trailer that got shot up in New York, probably because of Biggie's phone call to Hot 97 that night.

Whats the story with this? I knew about Snoop/DPG's trailer getting shot at, but I never heard anything about Biggie making a phone call to Hot 97....somebody speak on this, this is interesting.

 

[matthewj]

yeah i think biggie rang in and said he couldnt believe new york was letting 2pac n dpg shoot a video in ny. 2pac wasnt there (was he in jail?). its in pacs bodygards book.

 

[Bobby Sands]

2 reasons why:

Snoop is a bitch and a coward.

 

[DeeezNuuuts83]

Deeznuuts, You're right in many ways homie, but i was thinkin when dre was beefin wit eazy e, snoop was on dre's side and dissed eazy
so why this time snoop would play neutral n couldnt be on pac's side and diss pac's enemies, as he did when dre was beefin wit eazy
cuz ya know if a guy attacks ya , that mean he attack ya whole record label,
Ja rule attacks 50, and suddenly eminem, dre,obie trice, busta rhymes, d12...the whole label attack Ja and murder inc back

True, but at the same time, the Dre/Eazy beef is basically what gave birth to Death Row. And at the same time, Snoop was a complete newcomer to the rap game as an actual artist. In many interviews (such as the ones from the Welcome to Death Row DVD), a lot of the newbies on Death Row (Snoop, Daz, Kurupt, Nate Dogg, The Lady of Rage, etc.) were all just doing whatever Dre wanted them to do since he was the one with experience. Plus Snoop was probably still young, just 20-21 years old, still hot-headed and very much into the gang culture and mentality, so he figured he'd back up Dre and Death Row. But as a 25 year old and already having experienced rap beef himself with Eazy-E and Ruthless, maybe Snoop didn't feel the need to jump in line and say "Fuck Bad Boy" like everyone else at the time. And with the Ja Rule thing, it did start out as a 50 Cent thing, but he did call out a bunch of other artists, hence the involvement of the people you listed.

Whats the story with this? I knew about Snoop/DPG's trailer getting shot at, but I never heard anything about Biggie making a phone call to Hot 97....somebody speak on this, this is interesting.

The way the story goes, Snoop and Tha Dogg Pound were in New York to film the "New York, New York" video, as we all know. Biggie heard about it, but apparently was confused and thought it was Pac and Tha Dogg Pound, so he called Hot 97 saying that he couldn't believe that the city of New York would allow for the West Coast artists (with whom they clearly had existing tension with) to film a video for a song like that (since you need permits and stuff from the city to legally film stuff in areas like that). So some crazy New York resident (allegedly motivated by Biggie's phone call to the radio) drove by and blasted at the trailer.

I don't blame Snoop for being as neutral as he was, but I think he could've been more clear about things... I think it would've been more proper for him to say that he wasn't directly involved in the beef, but that he had Pac's back if it came down to it... and Snoop neglected to vocalize that last part.

 

[KO]

As someone else already stated i think, although Snoop was featured in some of the songs he never really participated a great deal in the dissing, I think Pac did everyones share of dissing lol

 

[Kadafi Son]

Weren't Pac and tha Outlawz tha only ones to diss badboy?

 

[DeeezNuuuts83]

Pretty much. The only thing I can recall at the moment is Kurupt adlibing "Bad Boy killer" in Don't Stop when Pac says the same phrase.

 

[WC Mafia]

2 reasons why:

Snoop is a bitch and a coward.

:thumb:
thats right.

 

[dpg_tharow]

if u listand to havent u heard with snoop dogg, he diss badboy in the first line, far as i remeber thats the only time i heard him diss them

 

[Bobby Sands]

Nah he didnt diss Bad Boy but he did diss New York along with the Dogg Pound with the video for New York,New York.But when the beef hotted up in 96 Snoop went runnin like a bitch being the cowardly fuck that he is.

 

[DeeezNuuuts83]

But when the beef hotted up in 96 Snoop went runnin like a bitch being the cowardly fuck that he is.

Maybe, but in 1995 let's not forget the Source Awards, where Snoop got in front of everybody and said shit to everybody's faces onstage... "The East Coast don't got no love for Dr. Dre and Snoop Dogg? And Death Row? Y'all don't love us? Y'ALL DON'T LOVE US!?! Well let it be known then, shit, we don't give a fuck! We know y'all East Coast! East Coast in the house!" Saying shit like that is pretty ballsy, especially to all the East Coast hip-hop heads on their own turf.

 

[Kadafi Son]

Maybe, but in 1995 let's not forget the Source Awards, where Snoop got in front of everybody and said shit to everybody's faces onstage... "The East Coast don't got no love for Dr. Dre and Snoop Dogg? And Death Row? Y'all don't love us? Y'ALL DON'T LOVE US!?! Well let it be known then, shit, we don't give a fuck! We know y'all East Coast! East Coast in the house!" Saying shit like that is pretty ballsy, especially to all the East Coast hip-hop heads on their own turf.

Yeah, he did kinda prove his gangsterism there. Puffy doesn't even have the nutz to do that.