I've been clean for an entire month!
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Saint33 said:
haha if things go my way, my streak will be snapped by the end of this weekend :thumb:
i wanna see salar reply to this.Tru Principle said:You sir should stick to talking about things related to business and politics and leave the physiological discussions to people like me... premedical students who actually learn by accredited, educated and well respected scientists. And oh...HELL YEAH, there is a physiological addiction to drugs... it's NOT just psychological. Are you that uneducated to not realize after you abuse any type of drug your body possibly will interpret it as a new found need and will demand it... have you not heard of the term "Withdrawal"... C'mon you really think im going to talk to you because of the books I read?? Don't be too quick to judge, everybody who talked to you here has experienced shit and is speaking on experience with the science they've learned aswell. I thought after reading Beautiful Angel's post you'd realize something but the shit has probably got to your brain.
I believe you're in denial about what you're doing, you're rationalizing the abuse of ilegal drugs. There is no abuse of hardcore in moderation man, the second it flows in your blood stream is the same second the negative physiological and psychological affects set in. Hardcore drugs don't simply affect your emotions, homie they're frying your brain and damaging your vital organs in the process.
You sound like a drug addict... and if you claim to not be addicted to drugs, you obviously have a desire to do drugs. I don't know why you think this is some cool shit and some dope thing all people should do if they can. Drugs ARE bad, and drug addiction is WORSE man.
I really believe this shit has fried some vital brain cells because... this is how the entire world is... you're taught by the older generation then one day you will teach the new generation. When my Psychology professor taught us this, she convinced us not by just telling us to memorize the book ... she gave us experiments, proof.. irrefutable evidence that drug abuse and drug addiction are some fucked up things to have in your life. I'm not just taking other peoples word for it, im studying it my self... unless you're going to tell me every medical book out there is a load of shit... I guess I should just stop seeing my Doctors because medical books are a big conspiracy against people who enjoy drugs..in moderation.. like your self
Yeah i'm sure it was the drugs that made them better people and made them more out going... you should tell that to the millions of people world wide suffering from drug addiction, and to that 16 year old kid on a scholarship who just tried cocaine for the first time and just OD'd because his dumb friend (somebody like you) told him to try the shit because man.. it's a fucking eye-opener.
So if life is about experiencing... should I just go murder,rape people? Steal somebody's car? Maybe throw a dozen endangered birds out my window when they're still babies who can't fly? Yeah that seems like a cool thought, life is about experiencing shit so fuck all morals and ethics and our brain that took millions of years to evolve to this level of intelligence for us to swallow garbage and fry it.
WRONG WRONG WRONG, if you try drug for the first time YOU CAN HAVE damage to your body...and somebody like you who is doing it in umm *cough,cough* (MODERATION) is definitely damaging his body.
You do realize you're talking about your self here right...? And oh I bet if some how, somebody made it a fact that when you went on your little trip you wouldn't be able to abuse any ilegal drugs... it would probably fuck up your whole trip and you wouldn't enjoy it and you'd be depressed... hmm I wonder what htat might indicate.
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good stuff tru principle :thumb:
Alright calm down now folks. There's no reason to moralize to him or diss him for doing drugs, cus I bet most of us in here do things that harm us from time to time, a person who spend every weekend wasted or smoke weed every day has no right to preach to someone who does coke now and then. The whole point is to just realize that it's not something beautiful or something that will make you a better person, it just fuckin your brain up for the sake of feeling good for a while. I'm not sure Salar agrees though.
ok... first off let me clear my own name. I don't do drugs every weekend. hell the last time i did drugs was a 3 weeks ago, and before that it was new years eve. So all these claims that Salar you're a drug fucked child are outregous.
alright so let's get started
Now, e, coke, acid tabs, weed... there's no such thing as withdrawal.
And i've already said this... and i'll say it again. Drug overuse and the deeper reasoning behind why people do drugs in the first place is bad. (whether it to be socially accepted, the only way they have a good time etc etc). I agree with you that overuse is bad, i agree with you that people that rely on the drugs to get by is bad... but what i'm saying is... if someone picks up an ecstasy pill every say 6 months or a year. or if somebody get's a few lines of coke every 7-8 months just to have a night filled with excessive craziness and a good time... not to 'escape reality' or anything as such... then why not?
Same with acid tabs. Have one paper... u'll have a psychedellic time... abuse the fuck out of it... you'll have acid flashbacks when your 50.
And let me get something else straight. I don't force anybody to do things... especially drugs. I try not to create a situation where people are pressured into taking shit nor do i think that everybody should try it. People that have psychological issues, dependency problems, addictive personalities etc etc... shouldn't even be near the stuff
And dude, not getting my hands on drugs isn't the end of the world... and as i've said... i'll have a rockin time anyway. Dude, i love u like a brother but don't be so quick to judge
alright so let's get started
Ok dude... before i start, dude, i respect you on the board, i used to talk to ya like you were ma younger brother... when u have an argument, don't go into personal insults.Tru Principle said:
Now, e, coke, acid tabs, weed... there's no such thing as withdrawal.
And i've already said this... and i'll say it again. Drug overuse and the deeper reasoning behind why people do drugs in the first place is bad. (whether it to be socially accepted, the only way they have a good time etc etc). I agree with you that overuse is bad, i agree with you that people that rely on the drugs to get by is bad... but what i'm saying is... if someone picks up an ecstasy pill every say 6 months or a year. or if somebody get's a few lines of coke every 7-8 months just to have a night filled with excessive craziness and a good time... not to 'escape reality' or anything as such... then why not?
Ok...i agree with the brain damage. Yes, take an e tablet and you'll immediately be doing some damage to your brain. But the damage is not that much different to the damage you do when you have a heavy binge on the alcohol. Excessive use of ecstasy however will fuck u up.... and again... excessive use (as i've said) IS wrong.
Same with acid tabs. Have one paper... u'll have a psychedellic time... abuse the fuck out of it... you'll have acid flashbacks when your 50.
Do i really need to say anything to this. a) i'm not an addict and i'm not in denial. haven't touched E since NYE, haven't touched coke/speed for 3 weeks (before that it was about a year).
ok dude... u say it yourself.. DRUG ABUSE and DRUG ADDICTION.... i fucking agree with you. they are fucked up things and depending on what the drugs are and depending on the person, the reason for addiction will be different. (Drugs like H become a physical addiction - where withdrawal is an actuality, drugls like E are party drugs, and the reason most people continue doing it is because that's the only time the can actually have a good time... and they love the feeling so much that they're addicted to reaching those peaks and not natural peaks which to them is useless)I really believe this shit has fried some vital brain cells because... this is how the entire world is... you're taught by the older generation then one day you will teach the new generation. When my Psychology professor taught us this, she convinced us not by just telling us to memorize the book ... she gave us experiments, proof.. irrefutable evidence that drug abuse and drug addiction are some fucked up things to have in your life. I'm not just taking other peoples word for it, im studying it my self... unless you're going to tell me every medical book out there is a load of shit... I guess I should just stop seeing my Doctors because medical books are a big conspiracy against people who enjoy drugs..in moderation.. like your self
again u used the word addiction. Yes and i agree with you drug addiction is fucked.
And let me get something else straight. I don't force anybody to do things... especially drugs. I try not to create a situation where people are pressured into taking shit nor do i think that everybody should try it. People that have psychological issues, dependency problems, addictive personalities etc etc... shouldn't even be near the stuff
hehe... ok dude.. seriously... what's the difference between what you've mentioned and what i'm saying. In the other cases you're harming other people, in the use of drugs... your experiencing euphoria (that's a really bad way of putting it but u know what i mean)
i've covered this somewhere before.
U have me all figured out Kareem. you have unveiled my psychological issues, i'm a broken man. Seriously dude. i have a rocking time sober, i have a rockin time drunk, i have a rockin time when i'm on gear. But each experience is different in it's own.
And dude, not getting my hands on drugs isn't the end of the world... and as i've said... i'll have a rockin time anyway. Dude, i love u like a brother but don't be so quick to judge
Salar said:
No it wont. Dont belive the hype! You can quite easily take 10 X pills every weekend for over 10 years without any problems whatsoever. I've yet to meet anyone who's fucked up cuz he popped too much X.
I've herd this before aswell, and i also think this is complete nonsence! I used to abuse the fuck outta acid and i aint ever had any flashbacks, unfortunatly.
^^^hahaha
unfortunately i know a 27 year old kid that is having acid flash backs now. He actually relives his acid experience as if he's there. it's fucked
and there's shit loads of people i've met who have fucked themselves over because of excessive use of X. And remember that guy who took 40000 pills in his life time? and he had short term memory loss.
unfortunately i know a 27 year old kid that is having acid flash backs now. He actually relives his acid experience as if he's there. it's fucked
and there's shit loads of people i've met who have fucked themselves over because of excessive use of X. And remember that guy who took 40000 pills in his life time? and he had short term memory loss.
Salar said:
Welli dont belive him! Sounds like an attention seeker to me.
Yeah im interested to hear the problems there having? Cuz i lived right threw the rave scene, i've been around X since 1988 and like i said never met anyone who is fucked up threw X abuse.
IMO the reason just about everyone stops taking X is cuz they have had enough of the nightmare comedowns! Which seem to get worse and worse the longer you take them. When i first started taking X my comedown was feeling depressed and feeling like shit on a sunday, by the time i stopped poppin X i was on a downer right threw till wednesday.
Plenty people have short term memory loss.
I'm with Salar on this one. As long as people are aware of the potential damages drugs can do, NOBODY has the right to judge them. I see nothing wrong with someone who uses drugs in moderation.
There's nothing wrong with popping the odd X, or an acid tab here and there. A line of coke every now and then is all good.
I haven't touched anything stronger than weed in over 2 years - but that's not to say I wouldn't. Everything in moderation - thats my life motto.
There's nothing wrong with popping the odd X, or an acid tab here and there. A line of coke every now and then is all good.
I haven't touched anything stronger than weed in over 2 years - but that's not to say I wouldn't. Everything in moderation - thats my life motto.
No, you can't do 10 x pills a weekend for over 10 years without any problems. One of my best friends who has been doing x for about a year or so now overdosed a couple months ago and almost died from it. When she was in the hospital they did brain scans on her and they found that she has little holes all throughout her brain and the doctor told that if she continued to do drugs the way she does that she'll probably end up dying because of it. And did that make her stop? Of course not. Fuck some people are stupid.stefanwzyga said:
Da_Funk said:
Ehh well yes you can, im living proof! And so is all my friends, and everybody who was into the rave scene a long time ago.
Your friend maybe had a condition before she popped any X.
Offcourse some people have reactions to all kinds of drugs! Some people have died taking X, some die drinking alchohol,some die sniffing glue, taking heroin,cocaine,and so on and so on.
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