Islam

[tennis_dog]

what's up with rappers and Islam? it seems that they all make references to allah and stuff like that....rappers like Nas, 50, Pac and the Outlawz, and those are just some of them....its really been a question thats been in the back of mind for a while now, so i thought i'd ask....

anyone know? what is it with the religion?

 

[Robbo1984]

Whats this got to do with Live 2 Tell?

 

[yak pac fatal]

lol

 

[tennis_dog]

oh my bad....im new here...i dunno where to post this...my bad if its the wrong forum...cant blame me cuz there's so many goddamn forums...

 

[mkvlithadn]

i have noticed this too, i think it may be a marketing technique, but for some like jedi mind tricks, i think that is just their religion, remember, most of rap is black,and alot of blacks are muslim, or getting in tough with their muslim roots

 

[KrAzY:aka:AnDy]

i have noticed this too, i think it may be a marketing technique, but for some like jedi mind tricks, i think that is just their religion, remember, most of rap is black,and alot of blacks are muslim, or getting in tough with their muslim roots

African/African Amercain roots definately do not connect with those of Islam.

Islam originated from Turkey, and after fighting several wars in the middle east and winning them over it eventually it found it's way into Africa.

But to speak on topic, it seems there are alot of islamic rappers now-a-days, i wouldnt necessarily say it's a bad thing, because religion can improve anything it adds depth and spirtuality to thoughts, so the music they put out can be alot better. Two examples of great rappers that believe in Allah are: Mos Def and Nas.

 

[fwn]

Islam originated from Turkey? Thats a new one lol

African/African Amercain roots definately do not connect with those of Islam.

Islam originated from Turkey, and after fighting several wars in the middle east and winning them over it eventually it found it's way into Africa.

But to speak on topic, it seems there are alot of islamic rappers now-a-days, i wouldnt necessarily say it's a bad thing, because religion can improve anything it adds depth and spirtuality to thoughts, so the music they put out can be alot better. Two examples of great rappers that believe in Allah are: Mos Def and Nas.

 

[KrAzY:aka:AnDy]

Islam originated from Turkey? Thats a new one lol

Actually your right... Islam stemmed out of Christianity and Judiasim.

Anyway back on topic...

 

[HitEmUp21]

It originates from the association with the Nation of Islam of African-Americans. As "Allah" is arabic for God, you find that even Christian rappers substitute it for the English, it just has to do with the close associations of the Nation of Islam and Black power etc.

Most rappers are not members of orthodox Islam at all, you have a very few that are actual Muslims, and the ones that are, don't necessarily feel the need to profess it. With such people as Mos Def, you wonder as to what his true orientation is ("...violate you, a muslim drinking brew" and eating pork etc.), Vinnie Paz of Jedi Mind Tricks is another one, all this talk of being a loyal muslim, wrongful pronunciations of Qu'ran quotes etc. and then to brag about drinking. I guess we got studio pilgrims too.

 

[westside]

nooO.. not turkey, not nation of islam america hahah. It Stemmed form Arabia man. Saudi ArabIA! It spread to Africa, Europe, Asia, and now America. Nation of Islam was formed by sum Guy calllin himself Apostle of god? in The 50's or 60's i believe. I kno this cuz Muhammad Ali joined nation of islam, up until the mid 80's where he converted to orthodox Sunni islam, which originated from Arabia sum 1400 years ago.

As 4 the topic, i dont think Nas is a muslim..he may refer to islam here n there.. but he calls himself Gods son haha. Tupac also mentiond the Holy Quran (islamic holy book) in Bomb First i think..but thas about it..
Napoleon is a muslim, Freeway is, so i heard.. Mos Def i think is a member of NAtion of islam. Duno about the rest..

 

[sniper]

nooO.. not turkey, not nation of islam america hahah. It Stemmed form Arabia man. Saudi ArabIA! It spread to Africa, Europe, Asia, and now America. Nation of Islam was formed by sum Guy calllin himself Apostle of god? in The 50's or 60's i believe. I kno this cuz Muhammad Ali joined nation of islam, up until the mid 80's where he converted to orthodox Sunni islam, which originated from Arabia sum 1400 years ago.

As 4 the topic, i dont think Nas is a muslim..he may refer to islam here n there.. but he calls himself Gods son haha. Tupac also mentiond the Holy Quran (islamic holy book) in Bomb First i think..but thas about it..
Napoleon is a muslim, Freeway is, so i heard.. Mos Def i think is a member of NAtion of islam. Duno about the rest..

yeah thats about it, regarding nas and rakim and them tho,

their story is they follow 5-percenters who refer to each other as 'god' alot of wu tang are 5 percenters, i think busta rhymes is one too.

ice cube and mc ren are both noi 'muslims' normal muslims dont consider the nation of islam real tho, because the original message has been distorted to show favour to one race above others(black, dont hate me, argue if u wanna, im just speaking from what ive seen and heard)

 

[TCD]

Beanie Sigel is also Muslim I believe.

 

[KrAzY:aka:AnDy]

yeah thats about it, regarding nas and rakim and them tho,

their story is they follow 5-percenters who refer to each other as 'god' alot of wu tang are 5 percenters, i think busta rhymes is one too.

ice cube and mc ren are both noi 'muslims' normal muslims dont consider the nation of islam real tho, because the original message has been distorted to show favour to one race above others(black, dont hate me, argue if u wanna, im just speaking from what ive seen and heard)

Ice Cube is muslim? thats the first time I hear of it...

Damn i should've know Islam started in Saudi Arabia, lol considering I was born there.

 

[fwn]

thanx for clearing that up. lol i didnt want to go on about from where it originated from, ppl talking bout it coming from Turkey or stemming from christianity and judaism
as for Nas being muslim,just have a look at the hate me now vid,but then again he keep referring to Islam in alot of his songs. eg:undying love "started praying to Muhammed and Allah, the most beneficient through You all things R possible."
Busta Rhymes is muslim from what i saw on his Anarchy album as well

nooO.. not turkey, not nation of islam america hahah. It Stemmed form Arabia man. Saudi ArabIA! It spread to Africa, Europe, Asia, and now America. Nation of Islam was formed by sum Guy calllin himself Apostle of god? in The 50's or 60's i believe. I kno this cuz Muhammad Ali joined nation of islam, up until the mid 80's where he converted to orthodox Sunni islam, which originated from Arabia sum 1400 years ago.

As 4 the topic, i dont think Nas is a muslim..he may refer to islam here n there.. but he calls himself Gods son haha. Tupac also mentiond the Holy Quran (islamic holy book) in Bomb First i think..but thas about it..
Napoleon is a muslim, Freeway is, so i heard.. Mos Def i think is a member of NAtion of islam. Duno about the rest..

 

[metaphysic]

Who Is the Prophet Muhammad ?
Muhammad was born in Makkah in the year 570. Since his father died before his birth and his mother died shortly thereafter, he was raised by his uncle who was from the respected tribe of Quraysh. He was raised illiterate, unable to read or write, and remained so till his death. His people, before his mission as a prophet, were ignorant of science and most of them were illiterate. As he grew up, he became known to be truthful, honest, trustworthy, generous, and sincere. He was so trustworthy that they called him the Trustworthy.1 Muhammad was very religious, and he had long detested the decadence and idolatry of his society.


At the age of forty, Muhammad received his first revelation from God through the Angel Gabriel. The revelations continued for twenty-three years, and they are collectively known as the Quran.

As soon as he began to recite the Quran and to preach the truth which God had revealed to him, he and his small group of followers suffered persecution from unbelievers. The persecution grew so fierce that in the year 622 God gave them the command to emigrate. This emigration from Makkah to the city of Madinah, some 260 miles to the north, marks the beginning of the Muslim calendar.

After several years, Muhammad and his followers were able to return to Makkah, where they forgave their enemies. Before Muhammad died, at the age of sixty-three, the greater part of the Arabian Peninsula had become Muslim, and within a century of his death, Islam had spread to Spain in the West and as far East as China. Among the reasons for the rapid and peaceful spread of Islam was the truth and clarity of its doctrine. Islam calls for faith in only one God, Who is the only one worthy of worship.

The Prophet Muhammad was a perfect example of an honest, just, merciful, compassionate, truthful, and brave human being. Though he was a man, he was far removed from all evil characteristics and strove solely for the sake of God and His reward in the Hereafter. Moreover, in all his actions and dealings, he was ever mindful and fearful of God.

 

[metaphysic]

What Do Muslims Believe about Jesus?
Muslims respect and revere Jesus (peace be upon him). They consider him one of the greatest of God’s messengers to mankind. The Quran confirms his virgin birth, and a chapter of the Quran is entitled ‘Maryam’ (Mary). The Quran describes the birth of Jesus as follows:


(Remember) when the angels said, “O Mary, God gives you good news of a word from Him (God), whose name is the Messiah Jesus, son of Mary, revered in this world and the Hereafter, and one of those brought near (to God). He will speak to the people from his cradle and as a man, and he is of the righteous.” She said, “My Lord, how can I have a child when no mortal has touched me?” He said, “So (it will be). God creates what He wills. If He decrees a thing, He says to it only, ‘Be!’ and it is.” (Quran, 3:45-47)

Jesus was born miraculously by the command of God, the same command that had brought Adam into being with neither a father nor a mother. God has said:

The case of Jesus with God is like the case of Adam. He created him from dust, and then He said to him, “Be!” and he came into being. (Quran, 3:59)

During his prophetic mission, Jesus performed many miracles. God tells us that Jesus said:

“I have come to you with a sign from your Lord. I make for you the shape of a bird out of clay, I breathe into it, and it becomes a bird by God’s permission. I heal the blind from birth and the leper. And I bring the dead to life by God’s permission. And I tell you what you eat and what you store in your houses....” (Quran, 3:49)

Muslims believe that Jesus was not crucified. It was the plan of Jesus’ enemies to crucify him, but God saved him and raised him up to Him. And the likeness of Jesus was put over another man. Jesus’ enemies took this man and crucified him, thinking that he was Jesus. God has said:

...They said, “We killed the Messiah Jesus, son of Mary, the messenger of God.” They did not kill him, nor did they crucify him, but the likeness of him was put on another man (and they killed that man)... (Quran, 4:157)

Neither Muhammad nor Jesus came to change the basic doctrine of the belief in one God, brought by earlier prophets, but rather to confirm and renew it.

 

[metaphysic]

What Is the Quran About?
The Quran, the last revealed word of God, is the primary source of every Muslim’s faith and practice. It deals with all the subjects which concern human beings: wisdom, doctrine, worship, transactions, law, etc., but its basic theme is the relationship between God and His creatures. At the same time, it provides guidelines and detailed teachings for a just society, proper human conduct, and an equitable economic system.


Note that the Quran was revealed to Muhammad in Arabic only. So, any Quranic translation, either in English or any other language, is neither a Quran, nor a version of the Quran, but rather it is only a translation of the meaning of the Quran. The Quran exists only in the Arabic in which it was revealed.

 

[sniper]

Ice Cube is muslim? thats the first time I hear of it...

Damn i should've know Islam started in Saudi Arabia, lol considering I was born there.

NOI muslim, not really recognized as real muslims,
nation of islam. you know them black supremist types ?

 

[Killa]

what song has 50 made refering to islam/quran??

 

[tennis_dog]

oh wow...looks like this topic got alotta attention


i got nothing against islam, but its just weird...when you think islam, you think terrorist ( yeah, stereotypical, shoot me) and it just feels weird when you hear alotta rappers using islamic terminology...

they do drink though, so yeah, i think thats against their religion...but busta had that pass the courvossier(sp.) song, so i dunno.....